Natalee Holloway – Detainee A Drug Dealer?

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April 18, 2006

From email – we need a translation from Dutch. The email claims this article suggests GVC may be involved with dealing drugs. Obviously I can’t confirm the story and am unfamiliar with the publication.

AMSTERDAM – Geoffrey van C., de 19-jarige man die is gearresteerd op verdenking van betrokkenheid bij de verdwijning van de Amerikaanse toeriste Natalee Holloway op Aruba, wordt tevens verdacht van drugshandel.

Dat maakte het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) op Aruba dinsdag bekend.

Amsterdam – Geoffrey van C., the 19 year old male who was arrested on
grounds of believed to be involved in the disappearance of the American
female tourist Natalee Holloway on Aruba, is suspected too of dealing in
drugs.

This was announced tuesday on Aruba by the Public Prosecution Service.



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Comments:
  1. Chance says:

    Interesting. The plot thickens……..

  2. Dixy says:

    G.V.C. the 19 year old man is suspected of criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance of Miss Holloway and of offenses related to dealing in illegal narcotics.

  3. DennisAOK says:

    Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?

  4. Dixy says:

    De Telegraaf also says that this boy and Joran know eachother.
    Local newspaper Dario says that this boy was not arrested before because he and Dompig’s son Michael are very good friends. Now that Dompig is of the case they have arrested them.
    The NY Post says: ‘The Dutch teenager who’s been detained in Aruba in the puzzling year-old Natalee Holloway case was seen with the Alabama honors student on the night she disappeared, her friends have told authorities.’
    ‘Her pals also told officials that Geoffrey van Cromvoirt, the 19-year-old arrested Saturday, spent time with Holloway earlier during her senior class graduation trip to the Caribbean island, a source close to the investigation said.’

  5. TJ says:

    From refugees:
    Posted: Tue Apr 18th, 2006 05:17 pm Quote Reply
    This is an excerpt from a NY Post article, posted by Adrienne on TUS.
    http://p073.ezboard.com/ftheunusualsuspectsfrm7.showMessage?topicID=875.topic/
    “…April 18, 2006 — The Dutch teenager who’s been detained in Aruba in the puzzling year-old Natalee Holloway case was seen with the Alabama honors student on the night she disappeared, her friends have told authorities…
    “…According to what Holloway’s friends have told authorities, the blond-haired, blue-eyed van Cromvoirt was seen with their classmate after she left van der Sloot – the pals say they saw them in the Holiday Inn casino together….”
    kati.smith@nypost.com /
    http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/67162.htm

  6. Dixy says:

    Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?
    Posted by: DennisAOK | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:46 PM
    Nope, that’s not what the article in De Telegraaf said. It’s more dealing in illegal narcotics in general.

  7. wreck says:

    “De Telegraaf also says that this boy and Joran know eachother.”
    —let’s here more about THIS.

  8. Jeannette Malatesta says:

    Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?
    Posted by: DennisAOK | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:46 PM
    Wow. That’s a real leap.

  9. TJ says:

    The Telegraaf article mentions Joran and GvC know each other, but based on what source. Just a guess out of the blue, I think.

  10. mlskeens says:

    Posted by: wreck | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:53 PM
    coming from a publication in Netherlands – very interesting. I’d like to hear more about this also. Joe T says Joran doesn’t know him.

  11. xxx says:

    The misinformation in this case never ends.
    Alleged reporters are now using posts on blogs as ‘sources’ for news stories. What’s next? Psychic predictions masquerading as off the record commentary?

  12. mlskeens says:

    Posted by: xxx | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:58 PM
    Don’t follow you on this. Who are you talking about?

  13. DennisAOK says:

    Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?
    Posted by: DennisAOK | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:46 PM
    Wow. That’s a real leap.
    Posted by: Jeannette Malatesta | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:55 PM
    No more a leap than any other speculation about the extent of GVC’s involvement. Compared to premeditated murder, which is one of the stated “charges” (in the Aruban sense), it is rather tame.

  14. xxx says:

    I cant’ read what is said in a Dutch newspaper, but what source are they quoting for this? Joran’s lawyer has flatly denied he knows this person, so if there is evidence that this is another lie, that would be HUGE…but seems kind of unlikely, more likely another reporter error based on rumors and speculation and not concrete info. from anyone who has actual knowledge of the case.

  15. TJ says:

    I think the close acquaintance between GvC and the son of Dompig is a fact. And drugdealing is most likely the case. So Dompig had a strong motive to say “these boys (J2K) are guilty as hell” and sabotage the investigation. If this is the case this has to have big consequences for Dompig and also for Karin Janssen who has been acting like a fool.

  16. Dixy says:

    The Telegraaf article mentions Joran and GvC know each other, but based on what source. Just a guess out of the blue, I think.
    Posted by: TJ | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:57 PM
    You’re right, it is not sure that the know each other, I am sorry. De Telegraaf said that it is said that the two know each other.

  17. mlskeens says:

    Posted by: TJ | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:04 PM
    agree – it seems like everyone on this case has lied. But public officials? They should all be removed and dealt with legally. But what would the consequences be in Aruba. Seem to have a very lax standard on their officials.

  18. xxx says:

    I don’t know, that doesn’t really work for me.
    So Dompig is going to try and frame 3 guys to keep his son’s buddy out of jail?
    I really think that Dompig is an idiot, I believe he attempted to solve the case, to try and get evidence against the 3 suspects but he’s too stupid to be able to actually solve a case.
    Just like everyone else, he kept thinking the media pressure would eventually die down, when it didn’t he started feeling the heat from somewhere..probably originating in Holland…to make some progress.
    That is when he started inventing witnesses who knew where Natalee was burried, making bizarre statements that she died of an overdose but was burried, dug up and reburried and then in his hail mary attempt to tie this all together he pulled his drug addict/drug dealer/criminal brother in law out of his hat as his other new witness.
    I’ve followed this case from day one and I have no idea what is going on. My best guess is that ALE believes this guy has something on the other suspects or he’s another ‘for show’ arrest with nothing to tell anyone.

  19. Translation of Dutch article says:

    Holloway detainee also suspected of drug trafficking
    AMSTERDAM – Geoffrey of C., the 19 year old man who has been arrested on suspicion of involvement in the disappearance of the American tourist Natalee Holloway on Aruba is also suspected of drug trafficking.
    That made public by the Prosecution Office in Aruba.
    The Dutchman appears Tuesday for the first time before a judge who will determine on the the request of prosecustion whether Van C. can be held for the next eight days.
    The 18 year old Holloway disappeared last year after she visited a bar in AAruba.
    Previously Joran van der S. and two Surinamese brothers were arrested by the Aruban police
    brothers because they would be responsible for the, but a judge decided eventually that there was not enough evidence to continue to hold the suspects. After months of silence around disappearance the police force arrested Saturday Van C..
    Van C. would be an acquaintance of Joran van der S., who is till the main suspect in the Holloway case. Joran and Geoffrey are both from a wealthy Dutch families and they are of the same age.

  20. charles-1 says:

    Miskeen;
    Currently a former DA and head of the OM of St-Maarten (one of the 5 islands of The Netherlands Antilles) has to stand trail because of forgery (he wanted to know what his former girlfriend was having an affair) and forged documents in order to get her phone records. He resigned on the condition that he would leave the island. He did so, but when he returned and started practicing law as a private attorney he was arrested and know faces up to 5 years in prison.

  21. DennisAOK says:

    curious,
    Yes, it sure looks like it.

  22. sunshine says:

    De Telegraaf also says that this boy and Joran know eachother.”
    —let’s here more about THIS.
    Posted by: wreck | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:53 PM
    De Telegraaf is an sensation newspaper. Most duchies call it the Teleraaf.lol Not such a reliable newspaper. Everything I read in this newspaper was chewed on here yesterday as if they took the news from the bloggers and forums.

  23. sunshine says:

    Joran and GVC pictured together…! (you be the judge – but I say it is GVC next to Joran)
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoff9.jpg
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoff5.jpg
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoffrey5.jpg
    Posted by: curious | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:24 PM
    Look the distance between the nose and the mouth.lol

  24. satchmo says:

    If this report that Natalee was seen by her friends in the HI casino after whe left Joran that night, then how is it that Joran has been a suspect as the last person seen with Natalee. This makes no sense. Either she was not seen after Joran left that night, she was seen with Geoffrey, or the police are so screwed up that they would persue Joran even though he was known to have not been the “last person” supported by statements of Natalee’s friends.
    Am I missing something here?

  25. mlskeens says:

    Posted by: charles-1 | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:19 PM
    Just like the previous govenor of the State of Illinois, just was charged with racketeering and other offenses that could get the 72 year old former governor 20 years. Public officials should be held liable just as every other citizen.
    Thanks for sharing that information!

  26. JA says:

    Curious,
    I agree that when comparing those pics they do look alike. I have reads that that guy next to Joran in the “Pimps” picture is a guy named Darwin Duberto. I did a search on him and looked at his Tickle site. Darwin looks more ethnic ( not meaning anything other than he doesn’t look Dutch) on his Tickle site and it is strange that he doesn’t have any of the pimps as his friends. Whoever named the people in the “pimps” picture could be wrong about Darwin, because they also named Koen as Gilliam Van Stratten. I am almost positive that is Koen in the picture.

  27. wreck says:

    Curious, that pic is supposedly Koen’s brother — not GVC. That pic has been around a very long time and everyone id’d. I think GVC is MUCH taller than that guy as well.

  28. xxx says:

    No you are not missing anything…you are just witnessing more spin and bad reporting.
    Clearly, if there were multiple statements that Natalee was with GVC back at the hotel after Joran dropped her off, then he would never have been a suspect in the first place…neither the police or Beth would have suspected him and in fact, it is unlikely that Beth would have even landed on the VDS’s doorstep…she would instead have landed on the doorstep of the ‘real’ last person seen with Natalee.
    It is possible that the NYPOst either inadvertently or purposefully wrote the story in a confusing way and what they really mean is she was seen in the casino that day, after Joran left, but before going to C&C’s…
    Let’s ask Boeti, maybe he knows.

  29. mlskeens says:

    Posted by: sunshine | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:51 PM
    Looks like it could be him! LOL – that would be something if JVS did know him and tried to say he didn’t if this is the same person in these pictures!

  30. RstJ says:

    “Clearly, if there were multiple statements that Natalee was with GVC back at the hotel after Joran dropped her off, then he would never have been a suspect in the first place.”
    And if those statements contradict what’s on the security tape, which are you going to believe? Seriously we’re looking at the possibility that a security company responsible for practically that entire area, *including interior spaces* might have fucked with the security tapes for that night. If the MB kids said they saw Natalee and she’s not on the tape, what’s the reaction going to be? That they must be mistake, confused about the time, drunk and stoned and saw someone else. Nobody’s going to take the word of a few drunk teenagers over security cameras.
    There’s a lot to suggest she returned, including that her cellphone was found despite her having made at least one call after being in CnCs. How can you explain that one away?
    As for GVC dealing, who knows. But man, that kid looks glimm’d as hell in some of those pictures. He has the same expression on his face that Morris and Byrd did in that one shot of them together.
    RstJ
    RstJ

  31. Sgt. York says:

    RE: “that would be something if JVS did know him and tried to say he didn’t”
    Gimme a break.
    Joran is a walking pile of lies.

  32. JA says:

    Agreed about it being Sander G. That would make sense too because both brothers are at the party. So it is not Darwin or Geoffrey.

  33. JL says:

    that picture is 100%
    Sander Gottenbos

  34. rick says:

    All these guys have to know each other. GVC worked on snorkeling and parasailing boats. So did M Dompig. They all go after the tourist girls including Joran. It’s impossible they all don’t know each other.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/425616365/1425697195063453400HgIaHE#
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/518010456/1518040021082327657ofmBiQ
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/518010456/1518051474082327657SPpgAG
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/240708389/1242559385063433796DvPWEv

  35. xxx says:

    RsJ, you are not being logical.
    Of course I would believe the MB students if they said they saw Natalee at the hotel, after 2:30AM, after Joran left her on the beach…they have no reason to lie about her whereabouts despite what the whack jobs think.
    But if these statements exist, Why didnt’ Beth believe them? Why didnt’ the police believe them? Why didn’t Joran and K2’s lawyers make these statements exonerating their clients public?
    Answer: The statements do not exist.
    I know you are hung up on the call, but it has never been verified, and certainly if it came from HER OWN CELL PHONE, come on, duh, there would never have been any question of whether or not it was her, it would have been obvious that someone who sounded like Natalee calling from Natalee’s phone was in all probability Natalee.
    I always thought the phone call came from a disposable phone that couldn’t be traced, otherwise, it would have been easy to determine the facts surrounding it.

  36. curious says:

    GO HERE…
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/joranvandersloot/61169380/in/photostream/ (hover over their faces in the picture to see their names)
    Sanders is next to the plane window – his brother Koen is next to him and their dad is behind them.
    The guy in the “pimp” picture is Geoffrey – study the pictures!
    Sanders does not even look like the kid in the pimp picture.

  37. Kelly3 says:

    Who did the chaperones report Natalee missing to in the very begining when she didn’t make the plane??? If I remember right whoever they report it to didn’t get to actual LE for hours. Was it Beach Security????

  38. JL says:

    Sanders does not even look like the kid in the pimp picture.
    Posted by: curious | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 07:36 PM
    scared monkeys is saying they are 100% sure it is sander.

  39. letsbefair says:

    Anybody else remember this simian post from early on?
    “Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Cant deny it. Its on tape. Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week.
    After a couple of days girl meets another boy in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him. This makes first guy really mad. So mad he confronts second boy.
    First guy never denies the affair. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.

  40. KAT_IS_DEVIL says:

    I watched LKL last night and Joe T ( who I think is Julia’s gossip pal ) said something that no one else seems to have mentioned. He was going so fast, I barely caught it.
    Joe says soemthing like :
    Joran doesn’t know GVC. Coming from the other side, the GVC kid says he had a converation with Joran at a bar. Joran doesn’t remember.
    How does Joe know what the other kid ( GVC ) said ?

  41. jh says:

    Yesterday I said that it’d be interesting to see what was going on when we were distracted by Joran, Deepak, and Satish. Now I can see that this might go pretty deep.
    Ignore Natalee. Ignore JVS/2K. The lead investigator’s son is good friends with someone who was with/romantically involved with Natalee earlier in the week and we only hear about it or see action AFTER the lead investigator is removed?
    Ohh.. this doesn’t just involve GVC. This is a cover up. The lead investigator’s son’s friend is involved with Narcotics and a disappearance, and nobody hears a word about it until after he’s reassigned? Forget the boys for a moment and think about this. What did Dompig know, when did he know it, and can ANYTHING he said about ANYONE involved with this case be trusted now?

  42. catzilla says:

    I just wonder what BHT and DH think about all these new developments. They should make e HUGE erratum for their book, or else I won’t buy it!!

  43. windmillie says:

    Just saw an article in the Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad stating that Joe Tacopino is not being paid for his services to the Van der Sloots. It is called ‘pro bono’, which is Latin for: “for the good (of it).”

  44. http://www.album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?pid=2207&fullsize=1
    a closer pic of the boys and clear one
    Posted by: curious | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 08:34 PM
    ==========================================================
    Curious, while Geoffrey resembles the blonde guy in the other pictures, posted, he really doesn’t look like the blonde in the picture in URL to me.
    Remember, Geoffrey may be much taller, and this boy looks younger.
    I do think there is are striking similarities in some of the pictures to the pix of GVC, but, Scared Monkeys is reporting that there is no doubt who it is, and it is NOT GVC.
    I may not always agree with everything posted at SM, but, I do believe the mods there know this case inside out, and they have nixed it. They tend to not give Joran the benefit of the doubt in these things, and so, to me, it is meaningful that one of their chiefs states that the boy in the pictures with Joran isn’t GVC.
    Besides, people may not admire Joe T., but, he has nothing to gain by lying about Joran not knowing the boy, especially if there are pictures of him with Joran.

  45. Just saw an article in the Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad stating that Joe Tacopino is not being paid for his services to the Van der Sloots. It is called ‘pro bono’, which is Latin for: “for the good (of it).”
    Posted by: windmillie | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 09:48 PM
    ——————————
    I have heard he’s doing this pro bono, as well.
    Joe T. is a good guy, and I respect him for taking this case. He’s a top-notch lawyer, and functions well in the media. He seems to honestly believe in Joran’s innocence, too. Usually, lawyers take on cases pro bono, when they believe an injustice is happening.
    His normal retainers are probably in the 6 figure range, and this represents a noble gesture.
    He’s already done a magnificent job in rehabilitating a very maligned kid, who he believes is innocent of harming Natalee Holloway.

  46. catzilla says:

    I don’t like this Joran, but I think JT ia one hell of a nice guy. ONe in a million or trillion in the US I quess.

  47. roy says:

    I may not always agree with everything posted at SM, but, I do believe the mods there know this case inside out, and they have nixed it. They tend to not give Joran the benefit of the doubt in these things, and so, to me, it is meaningful that one of their chiefs states that the boy in the pictures with Joran isn’t GVC.
    Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 09:50 PM
    Agree with you 100%.
    You would expect SM to say that they knew each other.

  48. windmillie says:

    Joe T. = good to have on your side, no doubt. Still, a little murky what he said about JvdS knowing GvC yes or no. First it was a clear, adamant denial: JvdS had never seen, spoken etc GvC. Now… a litlle different. “Yes,” Joe T. said, “they may have met in a bar, and may have exchanged some pleasanteries.” Maybe not a big deal, but still… spin!
    Anway, I am expecting young Mr. Croes and one of the Kalpoes (SK) to be arrested soon.

  49. JW says:

    Geoff is on Joran’s left in the pimp picture.

  50. windmillie says:

    JW, do you have a link to the pimp pic?

  51. windmillie says:

    Found it. Nah, that is absolutely not GvC.

  52. Skye says:

    I have heard he’s doing this pro bono, as well.
    Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 09:59 PM
    Are you kidding? When Greta asked him if he was paid to represent Joran and PVDS he said yes he is paid. She asked him who is paying him and he said Paul and the VDS family supporters through donations to a defense fund set up on the internet. So dont think for a moment that Joe T is pro bono because he is a good guy , believes Joran or thinks there is an injustice to Joran . Joe is PAID to defend Joran , right or wrong, guilty or not.

  53. JW says:

    Found it. Nah, that is absolutely not GvC.
    Posted by: windmillie | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:29 PM
    windmillie, take a look at this pic. Joran and Geoff are pimp buddies.
    http://www.album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?pid=2207&fullsize=1

  54. blue says:

    Could the young girl be Gs sister and dating one of the guys? She may be easier to track than him.

  55. Berry says:

    Give it up. There are no pics of Joran and this new suspect. What is noteworthy is that apparently more arrests are expected. Also there is a report that Michael Dompig, the former Chief’s son, was questioned at the police station in an effort to confirm Joran and Geoffrey are not known to each other.
    The fact is that the case has taken a sudden, unexpected turn and I’m sure the trio is grateful for that. If it continues back toward them, we’ll see. But I doubt it.

  56. dt says:

    RstJ – there you go speculating. OK I’ll explain this to you pretty simply…Dave Holloway, Natalee’s father, already blew away any notion that Natalee was at the hotel after C&C’s. The key card in question was used twice the next morning after 11 am while Natalee was missing. There is no evidence of this cell phone call you claim was made.
    Why do you lame asses continue to make up facts?

  57. dt says:

    berry – there is no such report that Dompig’s son was brought in to confirm or deny they knew each other. Once again, another lame ass making up information and trying to pass it off as fact.

  58. jh says:

    dt:
    Nice. Just call people names for speculating. What do you think has been going on the entire time? Dan’s blog alone is proof of speculation in this case reaching an all time high. You can fit what the police have told us on a single piece of 8 1/2″ by 11″ notebook paper.
    Now, don’t you really find the timing questionable?
    What’s more likely in the way of a cover up? JVDS/D2K have connections on the island through JVDS father who was a wannabe judge (and might have been a substitute judge a few times.. the end result is he is not a judge now and won’t be one) .. and this guy exerted tons of power and influence to do what? Get his son in jail for a few months? Cost his son great dilemas in the media?
    Or..
    The lead investigator’s son knows someone who was with Natalee and involved with Natalee.. but the lead investigator NEVER questions him. He makes no peep about it. He gets on news shows and deflects things with ambiguous and contradictory statements that still all kinda point away from his son’s friend. Then, when he gets reassigned, suddenly his son’s friend is arrested and a prosecutor tells a detention judge that they are attempting to seek charges of drug trafficking and crimes related to Natalee Holloway?
    A lot of you read Patsy into this boy. I don’t think he’s a Patsy. Patsy’s don’t walk around free for almost a year after the crime is committed while the other suspects sit in jail. If anyone is a patsy, it’d be the people who actually were in jail for months.. not the kid who knows the lead investigator’s son, has pertinent information, and yet still never gets questioned.
    Ask yourself this… do you really think that Dompig didn’t know that GVC saw Natalee?
    Add into this that this kid’s a member of the security force that helps make up the visibility team.. and.. oh, his daddy runs the entire force?
    There was powerful influences at work here.. but it’s not Joran or Paulus. It’s the people who stayed out of jail because of Dompig’s influence.
    If you guys believe that ALE were covering up for JVDS/2K .. what’s so hard to believe that one cop was covering up for his son’s friend?

  59. dt says:

    Wow, now people can read people’s minds when they speak of JQK answer as to whether Natalee and GVC met before. Unreal. Why does everybody bash Beth about what she says on TV about Natalee meeting this guy? She’s getting her answers from those who were on the trip with Natalee who have said NOPE, Natalee didn’t meet this guy. Lay off Beth…..I would think Natalee’s friends would know better than anybody else if Natalee knew this guy.

  60. xxx says:

    The challenge that Beth has is that she has run with partial facts before, and that she does have the unfortunate tendency to ignore some things and make ‘written in stone’ type pronouncements, she also appears to me to be totally exhausted and back to verging on rambling incoherence.
    That said, it would seem VERY STRANGE, if there was some known Dutch kid who had been hanging around wtih Natalee and nobody bothered to question him or this was never brought up, and that now, 11 months later, Beth incorrectly believes GVC did not know Natalee at all.
    The only people who are making these claims are Julia Renfro, who isn’t credible in my view, and Joe Tacopina, who is losing credibility more and more every day in this case.

  61. jh says:

    That said, it would seem VERY STRANGE, if there was some known Dutch kid who had been hanging around wtih Natalee and nobody bothered to question him or this was never brought up, and that now, 11 months later, Beth incorrectly believes GVC did not know Natalee at all.

    It makes perfect sense when you think about Dompig leading the investigation and Dompig’s son being associated with this kid. Come on, everyone was so willing to see a very intricate and detailed coverup that would require hundreds of people.. why can’t people see a cover up that involves at best four or five people?
    Dompig was in charge of who got brought in for questioning. Dompig’s son knew a guy who is now a major suspect (suspects get arrested, as has been pointed out many times.) The guy wasn’t questioned while Dompig was in charge. Dompig’s not in charge. Guy gets arrested.
    If there was a coverup before because PVDS MIGHT known people, why is there not one now when Dompig DOES DEFINATLY know people?
    Beth only knows what her “leaks” tell her. And if inside the ALE, at the highest level of this investigation, the focus was not even near this kid, then Beth wouldn’t know about him.

  62. xxx says:

    That couldn’t explain why GVC was not mentioned by the MB students, and if GVC was hanging around with Natalee, her friends have no reason to lie about it, and if he was hanging around w/her then this information would have come to Beth either from the students or from the FBI.
    I could see the students maybe not telling Beth the full story..if Natalee did have a fling with this kid,they might leave that out, but why would they leave him out entirely?
    I suppose its possible he was in their statements all along but Beth just didn’t pay attention because she was already focused on Joran, but that would seem to mean that whatever interaction Natalee had with GVC must have been described by the MB students as not much…
    I have never thought there were more than a handful of people involved in an active cover up. I have no problem believing Dompig steered the investigation away from certain people, since clearly, his drug overdose followed by burial, digging up the corpse and then reburying it substantiated by Boati the crack head and the crying Columbian shows he isn’t above making things up to fit his desired goal.

  63. jh says:

    xxx, when have we heard from the MB students? Now there are reports that the MB students DID mention this kid, but remember that most of the MB students refused to do interviews “for their own privacy.” Remember Beth getting up and saying that these kids had their own lives? Honestly, we’ve not seen much if any of the MB kids. And what we HAVE seen are not their testimony or statements, but rather, the ones that Beth wants us to see or their opinions/statements THROUGH beth. The fact is, she could easily have ignored this kid as being someone Natalee was into “earlier in the week.”
    Remember, first we had “Natalee wasn’t drinking or partying, she’s not that type.” from Beth. She even portrayed the navel slurping shots as something Natalee was FORCED to do. Now it comes out from some MB kids that Natalee was a stronger and harder party animal than a lot. I’m not saying that this makes her bad or worth raping/killing/etc.. I’m saying that Beth might have wanted Joran punished so badly.. that she might have blinked and dismissed someone earlier in the week. She has preconceived notions of both Natalee and Joran that might be incorrect..
    We’ve spent much of this case seeing everything through the eyes of Beth. What if she was looking in the wrong direction?

  64. xxx says:

    It doesn’t matter what “WE” know, we do not frankly need to know a lot of stuff that the police do need to know. It doesn’t matter that “WE” have not heard from the students because “WE” know they have talked to ALE and the FBI multiple times.
    Either the Mountain Brook students mentioned GVC and Natalee as interacting or they didn’t.
    I don’t believe they would lie to police about it, nor do I believe they lied to police about anything specifically related to Natalee. I for one think the only conspiracy in Mountain Brook was to protect Natalee’s reputation in the public arena as much as possible.
    Therefore, if the students mentioned GVC in a prominant way, it doesn’t matter what Beth thought or ignored or not.
    The police would have had these statements and would have been INSANE not to have questioned this young man in detail about his interactions with Natalee and ya know, where he was from 2:30 am to the next morning on May 30th.

  65. jh says:

    xxx:
    I agree. The police WOULD have to be insane.
    Or run by someone covering for his son’s best friend.

  66. xxx says:

    They give every indication of being both insane and corrupt.
    And pretty bad at both.

  67. jh says:

    Yeah.
    I just find the timing odd. Dompig is no longer on the case, and suddenly Dompig’s son’s friend is arrested? Not just questioned, but outright arrested?
    If he’s a patsy, why’d he get to walk around free for so long? It’d seem with him being the son of a large security force, and the friend of the lead investigator’s son.. that he’d have WAY more pull than PVDS.

  68. windmillie says:

    An aricle in the Dutch newspaper Het Parool, quoting police sources on the island: GvC was initially questioned as a witness, but refused to answer certain questions and is therefore now held as a suspect. His Dad was a cop in Holland for 18 years (in Breda, a small city in the southern part of the Netherlands)who took up his whole family in 1997 and moved to the Dutch Caribbean Islands, where he started his security bizz in 1998.

  69. windmillie says:

    JW.. I am certain that the boy in the pimp pic is not the GvC boy. GVC’s eyes are way narrower and G is overall prettier, if I may say so. As for Tacopino (not) being paid: even if JT is being paid say, 10 % of his normal fee, it would still be a burden on a family (vdS) with 3 kids. Dad Sloot is not what you call a rich man, not in the sense of being rich in the US. No way.

  70. Pearly says:

    Tacopino made the comment that PVDS lost his job over this. Is that true, or is the liar for hire spinning out of control?