As Obama Balks, What McCain Should Do

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September 24, 2008

Another Update: Ed Driscoll has some additional reactions here.

Update: Report here:

John McCain announced that he will suspend his presidential campaign on Thursday to return to Washington to help with Wall Street bailout negotiations. He urged his opponent Barack Obama to do the same.

And here:

However a senior Obama campaign official said Obama "intends to debate."

"The debate is on," a senior Obama campaign official told ABC News.

Let the Left laugh, with Obama saying he wants to continue campaigning and debating, I’d do two things were I McCain.

1) Say you can understand Obama’s point of view as he has never been engaged in anything this serious on Capitol Hill, or anywhere else.

and 2) Volunteer to let his VP nominee sit in for him against Obama on Friday.

Yes, I realize the media is still all about Palin – who cares. I’d make the offer.



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Comments:
  1. jaime says:

    Dear Al Qaeda,
    Let’s suspend the war on terror. I am losing in the polls.
    John “can’t walk and chew gum” McCain

  2. Ramba says:

    They want their Muslim for President?
    Okay, let them have Obama.
    When they’re forced to wear burqas, stone gay people, and make their bearded 13 year old sons grow enter madrasas,
    Then we MC CAIN/ PALIN folks will laugh and laugh and laugh and say, “TOLD JA!”.
    YOU THREW OVER A WAR HERO FOR A FOREIGNER YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW KNEW HATED YOU AND THE COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN!
    YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. seekeronos says:

    Let’s edit that a skootch, shall we:
    “Dear Every Nation On Earth Whose Business We’ve Interfered With over the Past 100 years:
    Sorry for the bother. We’re going home now.
    So long, and thanks for … erm, … nothing.”
    – We the People of the United States of America

  4. Hyscience says:

    Breaking: McCain Announces Suspension Of Campaign – Challenges Obama To Do Same And Join Him In Washington To Address Financial Crisis In Washington (Updated)

    Just now, announced on Fox News – more to come. Updated via Pamela Geller:Carl Cameron, chief political correspondent for FOX News, is reporting: John McCain is suspending his campaign and calling upon Barack Hussein Obama to do the same and return to …

  5. jaime says:

    “When they’re forced to wear burqas, stone gay people, and make their bearded 13 year old sons grow enter madrasas,”
    Here come the crazies. The end is nigh!!!!!! Wear your nikes and await the comet!!!!!!

  6. Hucbald says:

    Obama v. Palin. Lord, I’d part with a Cleveland to watch that!
    I’d make a beer drinking game out of it: Every time Obama said Uh, or Well, I’d take a sip. I’m sure I’d pass out before the end.

  7. Edwardo says:

    Obama Should Delay Debate
    Barack Obama has been challenged by his opponent to delay their debate on Friday night and ban campaign ads until both of them and their fellow congressmen can go back to Washington to work together to deal with the nations financial troubles. This suggestion was made after it became obvious that the Bush administration’s Wall Street bailout plan seemed headed for defeat and a bipartisan solution was urgently needed.
    There is a lot of ego involved here but one has to put their country ahead of their personal ambition so here’s hoping Barack can swallow his pride at this not being his idea and go along with what is best for America.

  8. Debate Strategy

    Mark Levin writes, “I hope McCain and his advisors have thought this through beyond today and tomorrow, gimmick or no gimmick”:Ok, let’s say the debate is suspended by both camps. Then what? Bush is pushing hard for some kind of…

  9. DADvocate says:

    Obama doesn’t understand what the big deal is. He thinks all you have to do is vote “Present” on the bailout and go on campaigning.

  10. Tyrtle says:

    Forget Palin.
    Let Obama debate Biden. There are plenty of things they disagree on.

  11. Cocerned One says:

    There’s no way Obama will go to Washington to help solve the economic problems. He’d have to take a stand instead of merely saying “present.”

  12. Average American says:

    Yeah, I am sure the average American is just dying to hear the “Messiah” debate foreign policy instead of following McCain in solving the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. Seriously, Obama has lost it if if he insists on debating.

  13. jaime says:

    “one has to put their country ahead of their personal ambition”
    -So why isn’t McCain heading back to Washington right now? He’s got one more campaign stop to make, that’s why. John McCain left his scruples in a Vietnamese prison camp.
    “Let Obama debate Biden”
    -If you’re going to steal a punchline you just read from NRO, at least have the dignity to attribute your source.
    “He thinks all you have to do is vote “Present”
    – You DO know John McCain hasn’t participated in a roll call vote since April right?

  14. Spartan112 says:

    So wait, John McCain who has missed more votes this session than almost anyone wants to delay the debate to go back to DC to save the economy even though he admits to knowing nothing about the economy and also admits that he hasn’t even read the 3 page proposal…let that sink in…he hasn’t read the 3 page proposal.
    This is cowardice on McCains part. He’s dropping in the polls and this is a desperation move.

  15. Robert Arvanitis says:

    If Obama insists, great idea to let him debate Palin, after all, they are peers in experience etc.
    Sad though, to miss out one of only a few showcases, since Obama is such a weak debater.

  16. section9 says:

    Oh, shoot. McCain should drag out the negotiations so he that Obama thinks he’ll be debating an Empty Chair and all of a sudden Palin shows up with the Baby in her arms.
    Super Bowl ratings. Super Bowl, I tell ya!
    Best,
    Chris

  17. A.W. says:

    Its brilliant as is, too. i don’t know if mccain did it on purpose but…
    now mccain is again putting “country first” and obama just looks like a guy who became senator solely to become president, as opposed to having a job to do that he takes seriously.
    But if obama accepts, first, it might knock a friday night debate to a day of the week when people are more likely to watch.
    And then he would have to take biden off the trail, too.
    But Palin holds no national office, so she can keep campaigning.
    And yeah, the suggested responce above is brilliant, too.
    There are times where i struggle to know if mccain is just being a great guy, or doing ninjitsu on Obama. He is either lucky or one seriously sly bastard. Gotta love him either way.
    Although i have to say that some of what he has done has succeeded beyond his wildest expectations. like the palin pick. I think it is safe to say nobody could have guessed how crazy the left would go over her.

  18. jharp says:

    A fact.
    “McCain has gone from “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” to “we have to suspend the campaign and delay the debates in order to deal with the greatest economic crisis since WWII” in about a week.”
    Hmmm. It wouldn’t be any new polling data that caused his flip flop, would it?
    And someone else put it so well, (can’t remember who) McCain is behind in the 4th quarter and is faking an injury to buy some time.

  19. SacTownMan says:

    One candidate is a patriot that has always put his country first!
    The other is a Chicago hack that is so self-absorbed he is incapable of coming to the aid of his country. His never ending me-first attitude is as obvious as the “guaq-a-mol-a” mole on his face. He simply looks at this crisis as an oppourtunity to further his god king quest and use his favorite talking point of McCain = Bush 3!
    McCain should just follow his instincts and help the American people to recover from this blow to our economy. As the only person in the race with any history of crossing party lines or giving a crap about anybody but himself he “gets it”.
    If this makes him lose this election so-be-it! Unlike our troll friends here there are some people in this, the greatest country on earth that care about more than “fulfilling their destiny”.
    One thing is clear in this election, win or lose Mccain

  20. jharp says:

    “now mccain is again putting “country first””
    Really? Is that why he said yesterday that he hadn’t yet read the bailout proposal? Nor had he made any decision which way he’d vote.
    The GOP tried to dump the bailout on the Democrats and it didn’t quite work out so good.
    It’ll be fun to watch the party of small government lobbying to give $700 billion to the Wall Street millionaires who stole at least that much.
    And the best part… … Mr. 24% himself goes on TV tonight to try and sell it. Can’t wait to see the GOPers rally behind a 24% approval rating lamest duck in the history of the country.
    Kind of throws a wrench into the plan to distance themselves from Bush, huh?

  21. SacTownMan says:

    ..is the real patriot here!
    Some how this got dropped from the end of my post.

  22. FedUp says:

    I love both options… AND I think having Sarah tackle Obama would light his fuse sooooo bad!!! I jes wanna know, if only one of the parties in a debate shows up, how can it be a debate??? Isn’t that more like a monolog??? No matter… Obama is toast (is that racis?)

  23. DaMav says:

    I think you have an OUTRAGEOUSLY good idea! Seriously.

  24. jharp says:

    Senator Obama a few minutes ago.
    “With respect to the debates, it’s my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess. And I think that it is going to be part of the president’s job to deal with more than one thing at once.”
    And here I thought McCain was Mr. brave war hero. He’s is nothing but a coward. Get’s behind in the polls and fakes an injury. What.A.Pussy.

  25. ModDem says:

    McCain seems to be playing games here. I see no reason to inject politics into this thing by having them go to Washington and hold hands for photo ops. Let the debates go on. Obama makes a good point that the Presidency requires dealing with more than one issue at a time.

  26. Spartan112 says:

    Isn’t it possible to do both? Shouldn’t a president be able to multitask?

  27. SacTownMan says:

    Hey Harpo still plagiarizing other people’s work like Uncle Joey?
    ‘And someone else put it so well, (can’t remember who) McCain is behind in the 4th quarter and is faking an injury to buy some time.”
    I would go back to troll central, Daily Koz, and start looking there for your latest victim.
    Please keep quoting those Koz talking points ad nasium about “he didn’t read it” and the old standby “Mr 24%”. It really plays well here with the regulars.
    Your boy is an empty suit. He has no history of ever doing anything! I would love to see if he shows up to debate himself while McCain and others are actually doing something that makes a difference in the real world.
    Just more of the same from the Chicago hack you trolls worship known as the “god king Xerxes”

  28. jharp says:

    For what it’s worth. And I lost the link.
    From the K-street comes this “….The deal on the “bail out” is 98% done. Treasury has capitulated on almost every point. A draft is circulating on the Hill now. No one needs McCain to help do the remaining 2%….except the White House who has no standing on this matter on the Hill with either Democrats or Republicans.

  29. swift boater says:

    here come the crazies – jaime
    I agree, and they have been here for awhile with their tin foil hats. BTW, your is on tight, isn’t it?
    And someone else put it so well, (can’t remember who) McCain is behind in the 4th quarter and is faking an injury to buy some time. – jharp
    You’re kidding right? Anyone who follows politics knows 48 hours is an eternity. Umm, just ot be sure I will tell you, 48 hours = 2 days.
    And I saw the Washington Post poll, the one with the 52% of respondents being Dems and a 14 point advantage Dem to Repub. And don’t want to leave out that 22% of the respondents were black (168 out of 780).
    If he’s only up 9 with those numbers, the Messiah has a major problem.

  30. mark l. says:

    sweet lord, barack is a constitutional retard…
    on multiple occassions during his pres conference her referred to the winner of the election as having to deal with the crisis in 40 days…
    the only problem is that the inauguration isn’t until january 2009. It’s not 40 days til they take office, it’s almost four months. I thought constitutional law was his forte.
    McCain is suspending his campaign to fulfill his role as a Senator and participate in an actual debate that is far more urgent matter, than a RELATIVELY, inconsequential debate which is only one of three and requires no matching urgency…
    Barrack also felt that the people need to hear about the crisis. Considering he has 50+ reporters who would be more than willing to provide a forum for his ideas, anytime, anywhere.
    This split decison about whether to attend it going to cut the emotional chaffe, from the intellectual wheat, and it is quite apparent which candidate is which.
    McCain goes because he believes he is needed.
    Obama is admitting to his irrelevance in the Seante by not going, and now has put himself in the position where he can’t show his face. he backed himself and the media into a corner that is impossible to get out of.
    I have no doubt that the decision came about by rove-schmidt-mccain and it was political genius.
    ps-heard Mark Levin gave this site a shout out, last night.
    congrats dan

  31. gaffeomatic says:

    you know, for a guy who said, ‘I ‘ll debate anyone, anytime, anywhere’ and then the first thing out of his mouth was, “Except for the 10 townhall debates John McCain wanted” he has no standing on this one. That McCain actually wants to do what they are being paid for, i.e. legislate, should be Obama’s thoughts also in these circumstances. I guess voting PRESENT this time would be even too much.
    I am sure the great state of MS can reschedule the debate a few days later.

  32. jaime says:

    “And I saw the Washington Post poll, the one with the 52% of respondents being Dems and a 14 point advantage Dem to Repub. And don’t want to leave out that 22% of the respondents were black (168 out of 780).
    If he’s only up 9 with those numbers, the Messiah has a major problem.”
    Seeing as John McCain is desperately behind in party registration, it seems about right.
    And Fox News has Obama up 6.
    But they don’t count either, right?

  33. solidstate says:

    jharp said: ” A fact. ‘McCain has gone from “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” to “we have to suspend the campaign and delay the debates in order to deal with the greatest economic crisis since WWII” in about a week.’ ” ‘
    McCain is hardly an economic wizard, but I think he’s right on the first count. If he wasn’t, the economy would have been slowing, not growing (however modestly), for the past three quarters. The current crisis was generated by a quasi-market-based, mostly protectionist, and entirely self-dealing consortium. It consisted of corrupt financial-instituion leaders, legislators using Fanny and Freddie as campaign slush funds, and a nobly intentioned yet economically illiterate piece of legislation called the Community Reinvestment Act. (You can’t legislate a reduction in poverty any more than you can legislate an increase in morality, but politicians have long feathered their nests by claiming to do both.)
    The combination of secrecy, ecomomic cluelessness, and mutual hand-washing was bound for disaster from day one. (Day one, by this scenario, took place in 1979, accelerated in the mid-90s, and has been picking up speed ever since.) It has little to do with economic fundamentals as economists define them, but rather with a tumor that has been allowed to spread until removing it may threaten the health of the patient.
    As for the second of McCain’s quoted statements, its veracity remains to be seen. But whether it’s true or not, the current situation was avoidable — and its resolution will be determined in large part by whether Americans want their economy to grow via the assumption and responsible management of risk that has made us the most propserous country in world history — or want it to shrink via rewarding malfeasance on the part of virtually _all_ of our representatives in government, in both parties, for the past 30 years.

  34. Lala says:

    the link that Harpie lost is Talking Points Memo ……..tada!

  35. Lala says:

    JHarp’s quote
    A fact. ‘McCain has gone from “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” to “we have to suspend the campaign and delay the debates in order to deal with the greatest economic crisis since WWII” in about a week.’ ” ‘
    is from Crooks and Liars

  36. Tim M. says:

    Maybe Sen. McCain can volunteer to vote “Present” that the congressional meetings to be held on the economy while Obama is preening in Mississippi with furrowed brow . . .

  37. mark l. says:

    And Fox News has Obama up 6.
    keep trumpeting your national polls…
    NH just moved its gop senator and john mccain out in front.
    269-269.
    This election is about va,nm, nv, co, and nh…
    if the more educated liberal state of nh is now trending right, do you think you have a good foothold on any of the other four?

  38. Obama has gone from “this is the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression” to, I’ll see if I can fit it into my campaign schedule. Get real people–the walk and chew gum thing is between the country’s dire need and Obama’s personal interest. Frankly, I am worried sick about this crisis and mad as hell that Obama isn’t using his influence to make something happen. I want everyone’s ass in Washington round the clock until this thing is done–no excuses, no whining.

  39. Steve Poling says:

    I second the notion of sending Mr. McCain’s running-mate. The job of the VP is to stand in for the President and it would demonstrate her readiness to serve in this capacity. The debate topic, Foreign Policy, is supposed to be Mrs. Palin’s weak point, and unless Charlie Gibson can bowdlerize her answers, the nation will see the cut of her jib in this venue.
    Given the fact that Mr. Obama turns into Uh-uh-uh-bama when handed an unscripted moment he’ll need three days to have all possible witty rejoinders programmed into him. Thus he must either accept Mrs. Palin’s challenge or reschedule his days of debate prep or forgo debate. His decision tree looks like this: If he believes the WaPo/ABC polls, he’ll use this as an excuse to forgo debate. If he has reason to believe otherwise, he’ll want debates: If he is confident in his prowess as a debater, he’ll beat up on Mrs. Palin like he beat up on Mrs. Clinton. (Perhaps he could scratch his face with his middle finger and say that she’s like-able enough.) Conversely, if he’s as bad at thinking on his feet in a pressure situation as I think he is, he’ll have to reschedule his three days of programming/debate prep to a time less convenient to all involved closer to the election.
    The paragraph above presumes that Mrs. Palin is the woman we think she is: relishing the limelight and rising to the occasion. McCain shows the daring and balls of a fighter-jock when he’s at war, and I hope nobody will talk him out of sending Mrs. Palin.
    Besides, the best place for Mr. McCain to be during the debate about the Freddie/Fanny bailout is at the scene of the crime on the floor of the Senate. What better place to say, “I told you so.”

  40. bc says:

    Like it or not, the chips are down and deadly serious business is before the congress. McCain is right. Based on current trends, apparently these comment boards will be 100% populated by trolls by election day. Thanks Obama.

  41. mark l. says:

    one other problem that will all be worked out…
    the Bradley effect…
    I’ve seen anecdotes where it is true and false, but this isn’t going to be one test of the bradley effect, it is going to be a test of
    PA, WI, MI, and MN- all within 4 pts, and the Bradley effect has transpired by 5 or greater.
    pay attention to MN, as Al Franken is so polarizing that he may bring out those who would have been more inclined to stay home.

  42. ET says:

    Solidstate — don’t bother using logic or reason with jharpo…he’s having none of it. He is a troll, illinformed and devoted to talking-point diatribes. He is a prime example of why liberals should not be allowed to gain power. He will politicize this very real crisis to attempt to advance his party’s cause…just like the dems did re: the iraq war and with the legislation McCain sponsored in 2005 that would have avoided this mess. He hates America and celebrates our troubles. McCain, to the contrary, is willing to lose this election if it means helping to negotiate a workable solution to the financial mess. It is a question of character…McCain has it, Obama and his trolls do not.
    Liberals suck.

  43. Worst President Ever says:

    Gotta be one of the dumbest campaign moves ever. Looks like McLame’s in full panic mode – and the public hates presidents that panic.
    Yeah, send Ms. Palin in to debate Obama – that’ll REALLY make McLame look like the Leader of the Free World.
    Count on it – McLame’s poll numbers go down big time over this fiasco.

  44. Bel Aire says:

    “the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess”
    57 states and the President assumes office on election day. What’s next, the eight branches of government? Didn’t O’s fancy private school teach…….ummm…..America?

  45. jharp says:

    “Liberals suck.”
    Conservatism is dead. Killed by George Bush and the phony republicans presently holding office.
    Hell, we’ve even got a liberal nominee from the GOP.
    Who’d a thunk it?

  46. jaime says:

    “Maybe Sen. McCain can volunteer to vote “Present”
    Seeing as McCain hasn’t voted in the Senate since April, I doubt that.

  47. Bel Aire says:

    The beauty of the Palin stand in: O can’t accept it. He WANTS to, but Axelrod won’t let him. Why? Anything short of a slaughter is failure no matter how much the MSM spins it. So do it, JM. There’s a risk that O will take the bait, but it has to be small.

  48. mark l. says:

    “the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess”
    as it stands, he feels that he is not responsible for the decisions he makes in the senate. beautiful.
    seriously, if he’s knows how this all turns out, I guess he doesn’t need to be there. When do you think he’ll share his insight? the day the bill is signed, or the day after?
    I almost hope he wins, just so I can watch the democrats have a monday morning quarterback, in charge of the country, while they hold both houses.
    Even if Mccain loses, I’m smelling 1994, all over. it would …almost…be worth the pain of losing to a schmuck.

  49. Matt, Esq. says:

    Yes, lets crucify a legislator for doing his job.
    Look, you lefty morons, the PRESIDENT CANNOT SOLVE THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. We are in the less than capable hands of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and by God I want McCain back and fighting to come up with something that works. Obama should be there- though I know he’s the chosen one and all, he’s still a senator and as usual, failing in his duty to the people of his state and the people of this country.

  50. SacTownMan says:

    LaLa is always on top of our favorite Plagiarist, Harpo and his victims!
    “JHarp’s quote
    A fact. ‘McCain has gone from “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” to “we have to suspend the campaign and delay the debates in order to deal with the greatest economic crisis since WWII” in about a week.’ ” ‘
    is from Crooks and Liars”
    Maybe someday he’ll have an original thought that isn’t preceded by an alcohol binge!

  51. jaime says:

    It looks like McFail LIED about his super important meeting with his economic advisers.
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/A_nonemergency_meeting.html#comments
    Lincoln didn’t even suspend his campaign during the civil war. I guess you can always count on McLiar to panic under pressure.

  52. Bryan Costin says:

    All these friendly, visiting Obamabots have some very interesting logic: A Senator calling for a brief respite from campaign follies on the cusp of a serious legislative decision is “playing politics”. Another Senator sitting it out and mouthing vague platitudes until he knows which way the wind blows is, on the other hand, demonstrating his vigorous and decisive style of Presidential leadership. Yes, this is clearly a winning argument. Please do continue.
    And didn’t Obama want to debate foreign policy this Friday, and not economics? How is a foreign policy debate on TV more relevant at this moment than the actual economics legislation being debated back in Washington.
    Anyway, this seems like a smart move by McCain. And frankly I think Biden might also secretly approve. Joltin’ Joe’s a goofy blowhard but he takes his job seriously and is genuinely dedicated to his constituents. Between his formidable ego and his sense of obligation I suspect he regrets neglecting his Senatorial duties during this important business. He’s not like Obama, who barely had time to warm his seat before rushing off to fulfill his greater destiny. Besides, Biden’s clearly hedging his bets by simultaneously running for his Senate seat; a decision to stay on the campaign trail could come back to haunt him later if this whole VP thing doesn’t work out.
    Oh, and I was thinking the same thing about McCain sending Palin instead. That would be awesome, if only to see the Democratic reaction.

  53. Obama has gone from “this is the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression” to, I’ll see if I can fit it into my campaign schedule.
    Bingo.
    So which is it, Obamabots?
    Does Obama believe his campaign is more important than doing his job and dealing with “the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression”?
    Or did Obama lie and this isn’t that big of a deal?

  54. mark l. says:

    “It looks like McFail LIED about his super important meeting with his economic advisers.”
    yes, while on the subject of importnat meetings, one of the most pivotal financial decisons of our time is about to be made.
    Would you a) want to participate and …gasp…learn something or b) commit to not attending.
    I realize that obama is the god of constitutional law, but who knew that he was so well versed on economics?
    by his committing to non-attendance, he has skipped out on a page in history. Not exactly an inspiring moment from a guy who believes the next president takes over in 40 days.
    I’m sure he’ll have someone give him the cliffnotes, once the adults are done.

  55. Toad says:

    The leftists are getting bitchy again. Therefore, it is time to once again show them this superb and hilarious picture (scroll down to see).
    http://www.singularity2050.com/2006/12/a-picture-is-wo.html

  56. oMan says:

    I think this is another brilliant move by McCain. He got inside Obama’s OODA loop by picking Palin. That was pure strategy, because events did not dictate that he pick her. It destroyed Obama’s momentum (offensive, suddenly put on defensive: and defense does not win wars) and it forced Obama’s main thrust off the objective (attacking McCain) and onto a flank move (attacking Palin, in obviously disgraceful ways, and implicitly admitting or at least inviting the country to see parity between Palin and The One). Now this. I think his overall plan called for a surprise move of some sort at this point, because Obama has begun to adapt to Palin and there is little more dividend in public disgust at how he and his creatures have treated her –that is, the base has been energized, the decent undecided voters fully understand what slimebuckets the Dems and the MSM have become, and it is now time to change the direction and tempo. McCain could not, would not, have invoked this economic cliffhanger as the factual fulcrum for his new move, but he’s using it. And that makes it all the more brilliant: that he could seize on events as they come, that he could adopt a position that simultaneously shows the country he is serious and that he puts its interests first, that he can go to DC and, without saying a thing, remind people that he warned of this catastrophe 3 years ago, and tried his best to prevent it: only to find the Democrats blocking his efforts to end the binge. All that, and he leaves Obama trying to react. Anything The One does now will be seen as subsidiary; reactive; or selfish; or inane; or all four. Perfect.
    If McCain picks a good cabinet and curbs his tendency to get contrarian on everything, he could be a truly good President. Even if he doesn’t, he is light-years better than The Present One.

  57. Worst President Ever says:

    Gee, seems like it was just other day McLame, the Senator from Deregulation, was telling us the economy was sound, nothing to worry about here, move along.
    McLame’s missed more votes than any Senator.
    As for Palin debating Obama, please, please, please, let it happen.

  58. jaime says:

    “Oh, and I was thinking the same thing about McCain sending Palin instead.”
    Unfortunately, their plan is to suspend this week’s debate and cancel Palin’s debate. If Palin is so ready to be President and all…Why are they trying to cancel her debate?

  59. SacTownMan says:

    Hey J-me are you done with the “liar” talking point yet or are you just stuck on stupid?

  60. jaime says:

    Are you done smelling like Sacramento cowshit?

  61. SacTownMan says:

    I’ll take that response as an affirmative confirmation on “Stuck on Stupid!

  62. mark l. says:

    earlier I questioned Obama’s knowledge and experience on economic matters…
    but then I found the quote from his visit to Israel, where he said he was ‘on the banking committee’.
    I couldn’t find any record of that, but surely no one would lie so blatantly about their responsibilites, when the reality is easily verified.
    I apologize for questioning Obama’s economic credentials. I’ll bet he has a nobel prize in econ that he hasn’t even brought up.

  63. And notice how Jaime didn’t answer the question about why, if Barack Obama was screaming that this was the greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression, Obama wasn’t back in Washington doing his job to help stop it.
    Answer: because Barack Obama is a liar and a fraud.
    Barack Obama just uses mindless puppets like Jaime. Notice today how Harry Reid, who yesterday was demanding that McCain return to Congress, is today flip-flopping and saying the exact opposite — mainly because Obama told him to do it ( http://ace.mu.nu/archives/274153.php ).
    And look how the Democrat Party is suddenly whining about inserting Presidential politics into the decision — when Barney Frank was yesterday bragging about how he was coordinating with the Obama campaign and trying to stay on the same page ( http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/23/MN35132M7P.DTL ).

  64. Worst President Ever says:

    Strange, if he thought the negotiations were so damn important, where’s he been? I guess his “the economy is strong” has “evolved” a bit. What a flip-flopper.
    And from http://time-blog.com/swampland/
    But leaders from the left and the right rejected the idea of McCain and Obama taking over the talks. When asked by reporters if he wanted McCain sitting in blow-by-blow negotiations Rep. Adam Putnam, the No. 3 House Republican, simply smirked, mute for ten seconds as reporters laughed.

  65. Worst President Ever says:

    And why can’t Saint Palin run the campaign while McLame’s back saving Civilization?
    Oh, wait, maybe this is why:
    COURIC: You’ve said, quote, “John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business.” Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?
    PALIN: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie — that, that’s paramount. That’s more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.
    COURIC: But he’s been in Congress for 26 years. He’s been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.
    PALIN: He’s also known as the maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he’s been talking about — the need to reform government.
    COURIC: I’m just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation?
    PALIN: I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.
    Please, please, plase send this woman to debate Obama.

  66. Adam Villani says:

    “a brief respite from campaign follies”
    I think it’s quite telling that McCain and his supporters see the debate over how to lead the country over the next four years is nothing but “campaign follies.” Because for McCain, the campaign so far *has* been nothing but follies, a circus of baseless smears, finger-in-the-wind policy declarations, and Cousin Oliver-esque stunt casting of an inexperienced, secessionist-sympathizing, for-the-bridge-before-she-was-against-it Veep nominee just because they figured women would vote for any one of their own. Meanwhile, Barack Obama has actually been running a serious campaign to lead the country, not distract it.
    Of course John McCain would chicken out of the debates.

  67. Anon says:

    Why ‘volunteer’ Palin? Just send her. What’s he gonna do – go home?

  68. And again, Adam Villani, given that you and your fellow Democrats insist that this is the “worst financial crisis since the Great Depression”, why are you prioritizing the Presidential debates over Congress dealing with the matter?
    Furthermore, since Democrats like yourself insist that McCain’s absence to this point has been a sign that he doesn’t care, that would mean that Obama’s continued absence means that HE doesn’t care about “the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression”.
    In addition, if, as you claim, Dems didn’t want McCain there, why was the leader of the Senate Dems calling for him to show up yesterday? ( http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/24/reid-changes-his-tune-on-mccain-involvement/ )
    And as for Katie Couric, I wonder why it was too hard for her to admit that McCain had pushed for tighter regulation of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and why she had to run like hell away from that. Could it be because she didn’t want it revealed that the Messiah to whom she had contributed was the second-largest recipient of their largesse — after the same Messiah had thrown a screaming fit over McCain’s campaign spokesperson allegedly receiving money from them?

  69. bobc says:

    candidates dont make Fiscal laws
    Congress does
    cant mccain chew gum and walk at same time
    Oh I forgot he cant walk well.

  70. Spartan112 says:

    “Maybe someday he’ll have an original thought that isn’t preceded by an alcohol binge!”
    Sac I cry plagiarism…that’s clearly George W. Bush’s line.

  71. Burnout Meltdown Turn-Around

    McCain Suspends Campaign to Focus on BailoutBy suspending his campaign and heading back to the Beltway, McCain is doing a couple things. He’s shifting the narrative away from his dismal numbers and campaign manager Rick Davis’s ties to Freddie Mac.

  72. ET says:

    Today we witnessed the crux of the matter…McCain is a leader, Obama is a follower.
    Try to spin it any way you want, but perception is reality. And today the American public saw the democratic candidate out maneuvered by his republican opponent AGAIN.
    Pack your bags for Chicago, Obie-wanna-be.

  73. yomamma says:

    Is it me, or have the sock puppets really been hitting my favorite blogs lately?

  74. seekeronos says:

    “— Lincoln didn’t even suspend his campaign during the civil war. I guess you can always count on McLiar to panic under pressure. —”
    Now who’s lyin’, Jaimey-kins?
    The first shots at Ft. Sumter were fired on 12 April 1861.
    Lincoln assumed office on 4 March 1861.
    He WAS president for more than a month before the actual civil war – you know , the part where people from the same country begin shooting at each other.
    Now I’ll grant that the secession movements within the various Southern States were in play during the fall and winter of 1860 (during the 1860 election season), and that the Confederate States of America (long may her momery endure) was constituted and formed on 4 February 1861… but he certainly did not even NEED to suspend his campaign on account of the war.
    Care to revise your lie, or was that a “mistake”…?

  75. mary says:

    Now this is getting interesting:
    “Subject: Cynthia McKinney Ready to take McCain’s Podium at Friday’s Debate
    *For immediate release
    Wednesday, September 24, 2008
    *
    *Contact: John Judge*,
    *Cynthia McKinney Ready to take McCain’s Podium at Friday’s Debate*
    /WASHINGTON, DC/ — Green Party presidential nominee Cynthia McKinney has offered to debate Barack Obama if John McCain’s opts out at this Friday’s presidential debate in Oxford, Mississippi, following the Republican nominee’s announcement that he is seeking a delay of the event.
    “If John McCain wants to bow out, I’m willing to step in and take his podium on Friday,” said Cynthia McKinney.”
    http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

  76. seekeronos says:

    Heh! I better get on the horn with the Baldwin Campaign and see if they want to make a similar deal… I’d love to see Baldwin ace the liberals and expose the nation to the paleo-conservative view of things.

  77. Arlene L Faller says:

    How silly. Obviously Obama wouldn’t debate Palin, he’d just send Biden, end of story. You people aren’t nearly as clever as you think you are.

  78. mary says:

    To the new arrivals:
    Could you please refer to the Presidential Candidates as Senator McCain and Senator Obama. This is a high end website with higher order thinking and lots of respect.
    I realize that you were just assigned here recently, however, stuff like calling Senator McCain, “McLame” does nothing to further your cause or your candidate. In fact, pointing out physical defects in a war hero is sort of just plain despicable. Thanks for reading.

  79. mary says:

    My apologies dan if I overstepped my bounds but seeing “McLame” over and over just got to me.

  80. SacTownMan says:

    So Mary will you get mad at me for calling Barry “the god king Xerxes”?
    I can’t bring myself to let up on the troll king!

  81. Bandit says:

    There’s no need for Obama to suspend his campaign or go to DC for his ‘job’ since he is a witless empty suit with nothing to contribute. This is just a rerun of the MA gov election in ’06 where the Dem establishment and guilt ridden liberals elected the proto-Obama Deval Patrick specifically because he was an idiot and weakling so the legislature and state senate would have control of the state. Don’t worry about Obama actually trying to resolve any financial crisis – he along with Barney Frank will try to cram in more handouts to their supporters in an attempt to sabotage any workable plan becaus ethe worse the economy is the better it is for the Dems.

  82. markg8 says:

    You’re right, Obama has never been engaged in anything this serious on Capitol Hill. McCain has, the Keating Five.

  83. markg8 says:

    seekeronos you may have forgotten there was another election in 1864. Check your “momery”.

  84. markg8 says:

    Sen. McCain wasn’t too busy to go on CBS News with Katie Couric last night. He wants to push tomorrow night’s debate to next week and cancel the VP debate entirely because he knows if the public finds out just how ill prepared and downright weird Gov. Sarah Palin is he’ll lose by 20%.
    What does he want to rush back to DC for? To save the economy? Who is he kidding? That’s a topic he’s admitted and has amply shown he knows little about. His economic policy is the same kind of radical deregulatory nonsense that got us into this mess in the first place. Ask UBS VP Phil Gramm, he wrote it. The bailout deal is 98% done anyway and if Pres. Bush didn’t invite him to the White House he’d be cooling his heels at one of his many houses with nothing to do. You can be sure there won’t be any hugs for the cameras with Pres. Dubya this time.
    Sen. Mavericky McCain isn’t going to sway any votes in the House or Senate. He’s built that image of his by telling off both Republican and Democratic politicians, vowing to make them famous for daring to bring the same kind of federal spending back to their states that has made crooks like Sen. Stevens, Rep. Young and yes, Gov. Sarah Palin so popular in Alaska. On top of that he’s shown up less in the senate over the last two years than anyone but Sen. Tim Johnson, the guy who had the stroke.
    This stunt has more to do with his 180 degree flip flop from being “the great deregulator” to acting like he’s Huey Long over the last week. It seems to be a pattern: make a giant grandstanding gesture hoping voters will ignore the scandals swirling around his advisers and running mate, his disgusting dishonest smears and his devastating gaffes. Hurricane Ike is coming? Cancel the first day of the convention! Conveniently that was the day Bush and Cheney were supposed to speak. Russia attacks Georgia? We’re all Georgians now! Palin even suggested it may be necessary to start a shooting war with Russia over it. Wall St. is imploding and his “fundamentally strong economy” is ready to collapse? The New York Times isn’t fair!
    If Sen. McCain wants to be president in 4 months he’d better start making his case to the American people instead of flailing around with one excuse after another for not answering questions or allowing his running mate to answer them either. The debate tomorrow night should go on. If Sen. McCain isn’t up to it he can send Gov. Palin like Letterman suggested.

  85. markg8 says:

    Sen. McCain wasn’t too busy to go on CBS News with Katie Couric last night. He wants to push tomorrow night’s debate to next week and cancel the VP debate entirely because he knows if the public finds out just how ill prepared and downright weird Gov. Sarah Palin is he’ll lose by 20%.
    What does he want to rush back to DC for? To save the economy? Who is he kidding? That’s a topic he’s admitted and has amply shown he knows little about. His economic policy is the same kind of radical deregulatory nonsense that got us into this mess in the first place. Ask UBS VP Phil Gramm, he wrote it. The bailout deal is 98% done anyway and if Pres. Bush didn’t invite him to the White House he’d be cooling his heels at one of his many houses with nothing to do. You can be sure there won’t be any hugs for the cameras with Pres. Dubya this time.
    Sen. Mavericky McCain isn’t going to sway any votes in the House or Senate. He’s built that image of his by telling off both Republican and Democratic politicians, vowing to make them famous for daring to bring the same kind of federal spending back to their states that has made crooks like Sen. Stevens, Rep. Young and yes, Gov. Sarah Palin so popular in Alaska. On top of that he’s shown up less in the senate over the last two years than anyone but Sen. Tim Johnson, the guy who had the stroke.
    This stunt has more to do with his 180 degree flip flop from being “the great deregulator” to acting like he’s Huey Long over the last week. It seems to be a pattern: make a giant grandstanding gesture hoping voters will ignore the scandals swirling around his advisers and running mate, his disgusting dishonest smears and his devastating gaffes. Hurricane Ike is coming? Cancel the first day of the convention! Conveniently that was the day Bush and Cheney were supposed to speak. Russia attacks Georgia? We’re all Georgians now! Palin even suggested it may be necessary to start a shooting war with Russia over it. Wall St. is imploding and his “fundamentally strong economy” is ready to collapse? The New York Times isn’t fair!
    If Sen. McCain wants to be president in 4 months he’d better start making his case to the American people instead of flailing around with one excuse after another for not answering questions or allowing his running mate to answer them either. The debate tomorrow night should go on. If Sen. McCain isn’t up to it he can send Gov. Palin like Letterman suggested.

  86. Spartan112 says:

    “Could you please refer to the Presidential Candidates as Senator McCain and Senator Obama. This is a high end website with higher order thinking and lots of respect.”
    Mary you haven’t been here very long have you?
    Seriously though, it seems this whole thing has become a way for McCain to continue hiding Palin from scrutiny.

  87. Bandit says:

    You were right up to here
    You’re right, Obama has never been engaged in anything

  88. seekeronos says:

    “— seekeronos you may have forgotten there was another election in 1864. Check your “momery”. —”
    Indeed, my “momery” did escape me there – so I’ll give you that – there was the 1864 election.
    I submit then, that it was not entirely necessary for Lincoln to depart from his ordinary campaigning schedule for a number of reasons:
    (1) The office of President… while containing in its functions that of Commander-in-Chief, he did something that most presidents did – they delegated the war to their Generals-in-Chief (U.S. Grant, in Lincoln’s case) and later, the General Staff and its successor organizations in the Department of Defence.
    (2) You might consider also that at that time, we hardly had a 24/7 news cycle, the internet, or cable TV; therefore, such delegation to field commands and matters concerning logistics and other minutiae of war-fighting were much more easily contained in local theatres. By the same token, campaigning was a much more arduous affair, not occurring with daily sound bites and media manipulation, but involving inconvenient and expensive travel between major cities. Happily, this also meant that people were much more engaged in the politics of their republic, as they often had to travel to hear the great orator-politicians of that time speak.
    (3) The War of Damnyankee Aggression – excuse me, the War between the States, was not a *total war*, at least it wasn’t in the modern sense were civilian populations were deliberately targeted for massive decimation (although Sherman’s March to the Sea and his foraging policies were certainly early forerunners of it). At the very least, the Southern gentlemen-warriors in that awful conflict did not widely engage in that sort of thing (and those who did were put to swift, severe military justice). Therefore, there was not a great danger to the Union-held states where Lincoln campaigned (especially by late 1864, when the CSA’s fortunes were definitely taking a turn for the worse).

  89. Richard of Oregon says:

    Brillant move.

  90. Who Is Responsible For This Financial Mess?

    Barack Obama and his fellow Democrats have been putting the blame for the current financial crisis on the back of the president and the Republican Party who Democrats claim failed to address the issue. The Democrats parrots in the media have be…

  91. Howard says:

    We are facing the worst economic melt down since the great depression. McCain says it should take first priority over politics. Obama says if you need me, call me, I’ll be at the debate hall. Then, Obama says McCain should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. First of all, Obama has never set aside his personal ambition for the good of the country. He has no sense of priority. The economic problem is huge, will effect Americans for decades, and deserves more than a Presidential candidate’s rubber stamp, or blank check. The walk and chew gum cliche is about as trite as Obama’s slogans … like ‘change we can believe in’. Unlike Obama, McCain is responsible, and has genuine leadership qualities. Obama will say, or do anything to get elected. McCain puts Americans, and America above politics, and personal ambition. No Wright, no Pfleger, no Farrakhan, no Rezko, no Ayers, no mean Michelle, and NOBAMA !!!

  92. nlcatter says:

    Mccain blinked
    and on his own turf did NOT win

  93. MybrothersKeeper says:

    So many Americans come across as completely rigid and fixed-minded when it comes to politics.I don’t know if there was a brief interlude following the 60s when subliminal suggestions were run for too long on tv or what, but many seem to be incapable of looking at the big picture and evaluating what is and is not real when choosing a president.
    Obama is not a Muslim. Look at his wife. Look at his children. Then look at radical Islam groups and how woman are allowed to dress and behave. Obama’s background is, from what I see, lower middle class. He has direct experience in middle America. And poverty. He possesses an experiential knowledge that few presidents (besides Clinto and Reagan))in this half-century were even remotely familiar with. Certainly none of the Bush bunch knew a THING about a neighborhood where people came home from work WITHOUT a briefcase.
    McCain is not level headed, never has been. This time, he was like a pin ball, all over the place when Wall Street tanked. He was the same weirdo (my words) “daredevil clowning” (his words, quoted) man when he was 3rd generation Naval officer smashing a plane here and there or taking out power lines. A pilot and son of a QUITE well off Admiral4,
    His name ends in “III”, for Pete’s sake.That’s a fairly clear caste label. Don’t hear that moniker appendage much in the average blue collar ‘hood. Personally, I’ve never trusted roman numeral people.
    My brother, a 101st Green Beret, died in ‘nam. McCain broke his arm and sang like a canary to get the NVN to set it. Then he got trusty privileges and was used as propaganda because his dad was a biggie Admiral. (I don’t know this personally. It’s just the scuttlebutt that I remember and was recently reminded ofby a REPUBLICAN friend who was also a ‘nam vet and knew Mccain’s rep).
    I DO remember seeing McCain stepping off a plane when he was released. I felt ashamed at the time because I had an automatic feeling of dislike for the man…and I didn’t know why. I recoiled the same way when I first saw Nixon standing as a bookend behind Eisenhower. And yes, I’m psychic…lol. But I will try to stick to provable facts here :)
    McCain and his trophy wife are incredibly billionaire-rich and neither has even known anything but a life of privilege. McCain has no clue what life for the average American is or has been. And without DOUBT neither will ever have the “opportunity” to find out, more’s the pity.
    As to Obama not being “prepared” to follow in the footsteps of …Dubya??
    God forbid he COULD or WOULD.
    Why is it a “bad” thing for a Presidential candidate to be ready to redefine the post? I for one am completely dismayed, disgruntled and just plain ANGERED by the current “image” that defines the American President. Buffoon. Puppet. Would-be dictator? Panderer to corporate America. Dubya the Destroyer. The list goes on…
    And do we need a McBush to continue that trend and bring along a sour disposition and erratic behavior that outstrips even Dubya and Cheney?
    I think not. Obama at least speaks English well, has a definite Presidential presence, and, incontrast to McBush, does not resemble in stature and personality Dobby the House Elf of harry potter fame…