Presentdent Obama

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October 25, 2009

Obama isn't the first black President, he's the first modern Presentdent of the US. Why are they so surprised? They elected a guy who mainly voted present before he got there? HuffPo pronounces Health Care as a leaderless cause. Obama is voting present on Afghanistan, gay rights, on jobs, he's voting no because he's more interested in his own agenda and world image. I guess he's still working the career path to Sec Gen of the UN when he's no longer present in Washington.

The only thing he actually showed up to do was tank the American economy for all time and potentially lose two wars, one of which was mostly won before Bush left office. The Baghdad attack may have happened under Bush. But if the Left starts hammering him on Iraq, who knows what this presentdent might do.

President Barack Obama is actively discouraging Senate Democrats in their effort to include a public insurance option with a state opt-out clause as part of health care reform. In its place, say multiple Democratic sources, Obama has indicated a preference for an alternative policy, favored by the insurance industry, which would see a public plan "triggered" into effect in the future by a failure of the industry to meet certain benchmarks.

The administration retreat runs counter to the letter and the spirit of Obama's presidential campaign. The man who ran on the "Audacity of Hope" has now taken a more conservative stand than Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), leaving progressives with a mix of confusion and outrage.



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Comments:
  1. Lala says:

    Reynolds had this up yesterday. Why is the O admin fighting the don’t ask, don’t tell lawsuit. Is it because it was brought by Republicans?
    http://online.logcabin.org/news_views/reading-room-back-up/obama-administration.html

  2. joyMc says:

    Re:who knows what this president might do.
    I don’t claim to know but an educated guess might be as follows:
    1.Any noncompliant leaders in the various organizations such as the CIA, the US military, the senate and house of representatives, media, industry (including insurance, banking, manufacturing, investments) education, will be made to look like criminals one way or the other by the presidents attorney general.
    2. Gun owners will be criminalized.
    3. Governers of states that advocate conservative ideals will be made to look like oppressors and criminals.
    4. taxes will be raised on the middle class and everyone else in one form or other.
    5. anything left of American industry will be destroyed by regulation, government interference and cap and trade.
    6. Private insurance will cease to exist.
    7. free speech will cease to be allowed unless it is speech authorized by the administration.
    8. The borders will ramain open and the country will be even more flooded by needy visitors from the south.
    9. Terrorists will bring it to us in the form of bombing our cities, airports, office buildings, malls, stadia etc.
    10. Education will become even more like pure propaganda with even lower academic standards.
    11. There will be widespread election fraud.
    12. The prison system,so overburdened will be relieved of many inmates simply by letting them loose.
    13. The dollar will tank even more than it already is.
    14. The welfare roles will swell.
    15. Jobs will be more scarce
    16. Crime rate will explode
    17. Citizens attempting to defend selves and families with guns will be prosecuted.
    18. Late term abortion will become more common.
    19. The old and sick will be pushed out of hospitals and there will be no home health available to them so they will die.
    20. Our country will be taxed by the UN so our money can be given to poor nations.
    21. The virtues and philosophy of Chairman Mao Zedong will be taught starting in grade school.
    22. Conservative Christianity will be outlawed as a cult of hate and repression.
    23. The gay agenda will be introduced and promoted as early as preschool
    24. Our economy will fail.
    25. Riots will breakout on a widespread basis due to the governments inability to deliver on entitlements.
    26. States will attempt to leave the union causing another civil war.
    27. homeschooling will become illegal
    28. Wealthy individuals will begin fleeing the country to keep what they have.
    29. When the healthcare system is used the government will place a lien on your house and property to recoup the expense to the taxpayer.
    30. Government will swell.
    31. Due to the general state of emergency the term limit on the president will be eliminated.
    32. Life will suck in general but of course the culprits will assume no responsibility and will convince the majority of sheeple in the country that the government is just there to help and is the only entity that can do so.

  3. Bob says:

    “The only thing he actually showed up to do was tank the American economy for all time and potentially lose two wars, one of which was mostly won before Bush left office.”
    What a pathetic wing nut fantasy world you live in, Dan. As far as the two wars and the economy are concerned, the die were cast before Obama even announced his candidacy. Foolish wing nuts like you swallowed every bogus rationale of the Bushies, never once bothering to criticize the manifold mistakes they constantly made. The reason the Republican Party’s poll numbers are in the toilet is because most of the rest of the country doesn’t buy wing nut B.S. any more. So go ahead and make up your political fables. Only you and a handful of fellow wing nuts even cares any more.

  4. Dan says:

    Bob, you are a stooge. The economy was much better before the great one than it is now in spite of his herculean efforts to spend his way to properity. Remember, if we just rushed through his spending bill, jobs,and the economy would be saved. Was it?
    Remember, Afghanistan was the ‘right’ war. Well, is it?
    Remember, the surge is not working. Didn’t it work until now?
    Weren’t we much better off under Bush before the 2006 elections?
    I am not a wingnut but you certainly are an ass.
    Wake up. It is not too late to really change.

  5. templar knight says:

    Exactly, Dan, the wingnut faction, aka progressive liberals(commie USA for the ignorant) have now done more damage to the US economy in 8 mo. than Bush did in 8 years, and that was enough. The hope and change wingnuttiness has the worst deficit by 4 times, yes 400%, than the worst of the Bush deficits. The stimulus was a stimulus for the crackheads who support Barack, and did nothing to create jobs, and what do they propose now? Free health care which will cost closer to $2 trillion than 1, and cap and trade insanity which will completely bankrupt the country with a cost too great to even estimate, but $2 trillion more wouldn’t be out of bounds. It comes up to about $1700.00 per family in the US in new taxes. At a minimum.
    The wingnut crackheads known as progressives are doing everything they can to destroy the economy, and use this crisis to take over everything they can. If you want to see what will happen, you don’t have to look any further than the lines of people waiting to get vaccines. Now that is what we have to look forward to with gas, food, and medicine if we don’t stop these left wing criminals from taking over.

  6. Which is, of course, why the electorate now trusts the Republican Party more than the Obama Party on the top ten most important issues.
    http://moelane.com/2009/10/20/the-october-rasmussen-trust-numbers-ten-for-ten/
    Furthermore, despite Barack Obama’s attempts to blame others for the economy, HE took full responsibility for it over three months ago.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/14/obama-on-economy-i-want-t_n_232265.html
    He owns the failures. They are his fault now, by his own statement. He demanded the responsibility; now, when things get hard, he starts whining and trying to blame Bush again.

  7. USMC says:

    It seems Bob doesn’t know what a Senator does for a living. This idiot Obama keeps saying he “inherited” this mess which he made worse. Obama voted for the mess he’s whines about. Obama is the biggest wuss I’ve ever seen.
    Obama didn’t inherit it. He chose it, voted for it and accepted it by running for president. So the president should shut his stupid mouth and resign.

  8. 0bama is the first emo president.
    And Bob is a retard.

  9. Bob says:

    Sorry, guys, but wing nut revisionist history won’t be any more effective than any other political strategy the GOP has come up with in the last few years. The country was in far worse shape by the end of the Bush administration than it was at the end of the previous Democratic administration. As usual, it’ll take Democrats to try to fix the mess the previous Republicans left behind.
    But keep up your current brilliant strategy. Nominate Sarah Palin for president. Keep up with the tea parties and the swastika posters. Continue to act as irresponsibly as you did when your side was in power. The bottom line is, a majority of voters aren’t going to forget what a disaster wing nut policies are when put into practice:
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/poll-gops-favorability-at-its-worst-in-a-decade.php?ref=fpa

  10. MDr says:

    Gotta love the Left. They start out and end, not with reason, but personal attacks – case in point – “What a pathetic wing nut fantasy world you live in”. They have to resort to attacks, because the facts, reason, and even common sense, just don’t support their “reality”. One of my favorites is the economy and national debt. Somehow they’ve forgetten that the Dems have controlled Congress for three years, and Congress, not the President holds not only th purse strings, but makes law. They just can’t accept that more debt and their CRA initiated financial meltdown has been primarily on their Congressional watch. Yes, the CRA – supported predominantly by Dems, pushed to exhorbitant excesses by their minions like ACORN, created a real mess. But you’ll never catch them owning up to it.
    Ooops, football time.

  11. Bob says:

    “They have to resort to attacks, because the facts, reason, and even common sense, just don’t support their “reality”. One of my favorites is the economy and national debt. Somehow they’ve forgetten that the Dems have controlled Congress for three years, and Congress, not the President holds not only th purse strings, but makes law.”
    MDr, wing nuts really need to start showing a little more respect for other peoples’ intelligence. You’ve got to come up with some actual ideas to help the nation, rather than chanting, “Acorn, Acorn, Acorn . . .” and bleating about how everything is the Democrats’ fault. The polls show where you’re at in most voters’ opinions. It didn’t just happen that even 40% of Republicans don’t really trust their own party. The Republican leadership had to EARN that lack of trust. And trying to blame it on the Democrats only confirms how intellectually dishonest your movement has become.

  12. x11b1p says:

    USMC spot on – obama is not a King who inherited his father’s kingdom,he decided to run, he volunteered. However, I think the constant use of the word “inherited” is his freudian slip, illustrating his desire to rule over us as a King. Imagine if Bush had said, hey don’t tell me how to push the mop I’m using to clean up the 9-11 mess I inherited? Its not like the Jordainians did not call Clinton up and tell him they had OBL if he wanted him, its not like we did not have two World Trade Center Bombings b/f 9-11, 2 Embassy Bombing b/f 9-11, and an attack on a US Warship by AQ before 9-11, its not like AQ was not behind the Somolia Blackhawk down situtation, if thats not inheriting a mess, then neither is a 450 billion dollar defict and a houisng collapse brought to us via corruption (shockingly wall street is corrupt only until they max out contributions to obama and then they are corrupt again).

  13. Lala says:

    What’s going on with the flu vaccine? Another Zero failure!
    “2.2B on vaccine that will arrive too late, an imperfect plan? Smart power?
    We have known about the H1N1 (Swine Flu), risk for many months now. We knew that last spring’s outbreak would turn into a more virulent strain by this fall. That is all basic science. Concerned for our citizens, the government recognized the need to produce substantial volumes of vaccine. We have spent more than $2.2B for H1N1 Swine flu. To date, only a minor amount of this vaccine has been delivered, but concern seems muted. Despite new vaccine manufacturing technologies, we persist in using outdated methods and to spend huge sums of money in a wasteful manner. Why? ”
    more at http://www.4yourcountry.org/

  14. “MDr, wing nuts really need to start showing a little more respect for other peoples’ intelligence.”
    Perhaps if morons like you would actually _demonstrate_ some for once, Roberta…

  15. JohnFLob says:

    Bob, have you ever heard of Senators Dodd, Schumer, Obama, Reid(D Nv), and Leahy, or Representative Conyers, Rangel, Pelosi, Waxman, and etc. What were their efforts toward restricting Freddy Mac Fanny Mae and mortgage brokers activities in the sub prime mortgage markets? Who were the people that insisted that banks and mortgage brokers had to lower mortgage loan qualification criteria. Who were the people that claimed the requirement for adequate and verifiable income was wrong? Who were the people that most vociferously opposed efforts during the Bush adminstration to more properly control and regulate ‘Wall Street’?

  16. templar knight says:

    The god-king Xerxes and boot licker Bob want to pass the buck, and the majority of people have figured these fools out. The Democrats are now behind the Republicans on 9 out of 10 issues, and Republicans are now poised to take the Congress back. Of course, the commie progressives like the Working Families Party are up to their necks in election fraud, so we will have to hold the bastards feet to the fire to make sure they don’t steal more elections like they did in NY recently. Haha, even the sensible Democrats are waking up to the lunacy of the left wing mob, and are starting to distance themselves.
    And what is really funny is how the brainless idiots like Bob want to blame Republicans for everything that isn’t getting done when Democrats control the Presidency, the House and the Senate. Well, no one can blame the lack of Barack’s legislative success on Republicans. The Democrats control everything.

  17. Wahoo Willie says:

    “As usual, it’ll take Democrats to try to fix the mess the previous Republicans left behind.”
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA Stop it man you’re hurting me. You aren’t Bob “the Bigot” Beckel are you?

  18. Bob says:

    “ACORN, ACORN, ACORN!!!”
    lol. You guys need to come up with a new routine.

  19. To Bob,
    Where is President Obama’s researched plan for healthcare? What does he want to do, and why will it work?
    I don’t mean a few hundred words of speeches and anecdotes. As an intelligent, dedicated leader, where is the data and research that is guiding his view of healthcare reform, written for all to review and agree with?
    I don’t recall him pointing to any study or written plan and saying “I like that. That is what we are implementing.” I want to be informed.
    Give me some basis to believe that Obama is not just making it up as he goes along.

  20. Bob says:

    “To Bob,
    Where is President Obama’s researched plan for healthcare? What does he want to do, and why will it work?”
    Try the Congressional Budget Office analyses of various of the plans that have been proposed in Congress. Of course, the Republicans couldn’t have a CBO analysis done, because they’ve NEVER HAD a plan.

  21. Chris says:

    Of course, the Republicans couldn’t have a CBO analysis done, because they’ve NEVER HAD a plan.
    Posted by: Bob | Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 10:57 PM
    So let’s lock them out of negotiations in the House! And strip $250 billion out of the health care boondoggle and call it budget neutral. And blame them for our own failure! Smart power!

  22. “Of course, the Republicans couldn’t have a CBO analysis done, because they’ve NEVER HAD a plan.”
    Oh really?
    Here’s one — the Patients’ Choice Act, introduced in May.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124277551107536875.html#mod=rss_opinion_main
    And here’s another one.
    “The GOP plan was drafted by Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., a physician. It avoids expanding the federal role in overseeing the health insurance industry. Unlike Democratic proposals, it would not set up new federally regulated purchasing pools for individuals and small businesses. Instead, it would allow individuals to use the Internet to purchase lower-cost coverage available anywhere in the country. That idea won’t please insurance commissioners from states with strong consumer protections, who have argued it will set off a “race to the bottom” that undermines coverage for those in frail health.
    The plan would offer tax deductions and tax credits to help make the purchase of health insurance more affordable for individuals. It would provide grants to states to help set up high-risk pools for people with medical problems who are denied coverage by commercial insurers. And it would allow employers to automatically sign workers up for the company’s coverage – similar to what’s done with 401(k) retirement plans.
    The GOP bill would take on medical malpractice, limiting jury awards for pain and suffering and creating new health courts in which a specially trained judge would hear and decide cases involving medical negligence.
    It would give doctors what amounts to veto power over recommendations from a new federal board that’s been assigned to compare the benefits of new treatments, tests and medications. Recommendations from the Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research could not be enacted without the approval of the medical specialty society that would be affected.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/house-republicans-unveil-_n_247301.html
    In short, Republicans have posed several plans. Why wouldn’t Bob know that? Is it because Bob is merely an ignorant talking points repeater, or is it because Bob is a flat-out dishonest and dishonorable liar?

  23. Lala says:

    We should put this on one of those polling sites.
    1. Is Bob an ignorant talking points repeater? vote yes or no.
    2. Is Bob a flat-out dishonest and dishonorable liar? vote yes or no.
    3. Is Bob both ignorant and a liar? vote yes or no.
    I vote yes for number 3.

  24. templar knight says:

    Uh, yes! He’s guilty on all counts, and should be sentenced to cleaning the toilets at the DNC. Oh, yeah, he already does that. Well, I’ll think of something.

  25. xerocky says:

    “Bob, have you ever heard of Senators Dodd, Schumer, Obama, Reid(D Nv), and Leahy, or Representative Conyers, Rangel, Pelosi, Waxman, and etc. What were their efforts toward restricting Freddy Mac Fanny Mae and mortgage brokers activities in the sub prime mortgage markets? Who were the people that insisted that banks and mortgage brokers had to lower mortgage loan qualification criteria. Who were the people that claimed the requirement for adequate and verifiable income was wrong? Who were the people that most vociferously opposed efforts during the Bush adminstration to more properly control and regulate ‘Wall Street’?”
    It’s funny how in denial lefty wingnutz are about this really. How much did fannie and freddie lend out in subprime loans? TRILLIONS. There’s video evidence of Barny Frank yelling at Republicans who wanted to pump the breaks on the issue. What more is there to say, the fact that they won’t come out of their denial is so annoying and stupid.

  26. xerocky says:

    “”ACORN, ACORN, ACORN!!!”
    lol. You guys need to come up with a new routine.”
    Yeah, something less obviously true, right Bob?

  27. Jack Klompus says:

    “You guys need to come up with a new routine.”
    Wing nut wing nut wing nut wing nut Bush Bush Bush Palin Palin Palin Fox News Fox News…
    Something original like that, Bob?
    You’re not a very bright person.

  28. templar knight says:

    Bob is the new nomer for the previously banned jharp, and Dan should know that by now. The writing style, and the words he uses, such as the constant wing nut reference, are dead giveaways, plus his constant, forgive me…HARPING…on health care reform. And his constant plea for someone to debate him on the issues, as if his opinion could ever be changed. He is either a DNC plant, or perhaps he works for the Soros outfit, who knows or cares? He is not here for anything other than to disrupt. I’m not saying to ban him, I just want everyone to know that he is a troll who previously posted here, and was banned by Dan. He is the only person Dan has ever banned, so far as I know, and I’ve been lurking and commenting here for years.

  29. mark l. says:

    some modest disagreement tk-
    jharp isn’t bob, or vice versa. jharp actually fled the stage, after he had reached a level of shrillness and incoherence, that even he realized was insane.
    “acorn, acorn, acorn?”
    how bout jobs, jobs, jobs?
    or,
    it’s the economy, stupid?
    obama doesn’t have a plan for either.
    *********************************
    “As far as the two wars and the economy are concerned”
    summer 2008:
    Obama says Afghanistan ‘a war that we have to win’
    By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
    WASHINGTON – Contending that the U.S. is not pursuing a sound strategy for keeping Americans safe, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Tuesday that fighting al-Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan would be his top priority after ending the war in Iraq.
    “This is a war that we have to win,” Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery at the International Trade Center in Washington.
    we are beyond the point where winning in afghanistan is a viable strategy. if obama chooses NOT to walk away, he would be left fighting a war for the remainder of his two terms, with an avergae of 300-400 casualties a year. The only thing that keeps him from walking is how much politcal capital he invested in his ‘faux’ concern about progress in afghanistan.
    as for the economy?
    multiple members of his admin have said we are in recovery. sounds like they want it to be their economy, but if it is still on bush, it is nice to know they are going to bat for him.
    at what point does it become his economy? job loss will remain his quagmire, and even his own advisers are trying to have the american public ‘gird their loins’ for a loong period of joblessness.

  30. mark l. says:

    as a variation of “hugs, not drugs”, might I suggest:
    “jobs, not bobs”?

  31. mark l. says:

    http://forecasts.org/unemploy.htm
    here’s a projection on unemployment, bob.
    the 8% is the mendoza line, that the messiah threw down as benchmark. Stimulus saves jobs in theory, but fails in practice.
    at what point does obama abandon his theoretical governance, and actually go for practical?
    is he even capable of practical business thought? it’s a thin resume, and thus far he has spilled his coffee on it, along with letting his dog pee on it.
    “profit-earning ratios”? please. he has no clue.

  32. Lala says:

    I come across JHarp on other blogs still saying the same old, same old. I think the last time was on American Thinker.

  33. Bob says:

    “the 8% is the mendoza line, that the messiah threw down as benchmark. Stimulus saves jobs in theory, but fails in practice.”
    Nonsense. The disparity between unemployment projections and reality only shows that the recession is even worse than people thought a year or so ago. As in, two or three times worse. Even “the messiah” and his economists can’t predict the future, and I don’t recall Republicans making any more accurate predictions either.
    The question is, would the economy have been even worse without the stimulus? Would it have collapsed completely? To be honest, it’s probably too early to answer those questions. But some important economic indicators HAVE started to turn around:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=axR0eCguPdJo
    It’s hard to argue about it with people that have completely different objectives. Conservatives like you are only interested in proving that Obama was wrong, and so you’ll pick out the unemployment numbers (since that’s one economic indicator that’s still in the tank) and claim that it proves your case. But it’s disingenuous, because (a) nobody could claim with any facts to back them up that a hypothetical Republican recovery plan would have worked any better, (b) even Obama’s scaled-back stimulus package doesn’t have the power to completely reverse one of the worst economic crises in history. Conservatives mock Obama as “the messiah,” and yet act as though it’s a legitimate criticism when he DOESN’T miraculously accomplish the impossible.
    In short, you’re not interested in being fair and you have no facts to prove that a hypothetical Republican approach would have worked any better, so why pretend otherwise? Oh, right: since conservatives have no plan to deal with ANYTHING, all they can do is complain and hope desperately for failure. They’re cheerleaders for failure, and nothing more.

  34. templar knight says:

    Good point, Mark, but the better point is this. Obama knew he was lying when he said it. He had no idea what would happen, but he believed that all the stimulus cash he paid to Democratic groups would somehow stimulate the economy, as if their buying flat screens, cigarettes, dope and gambling would somehow create jobs.
    And this is how the dopes think. They don’t understand would creates wealth, as they think that printing money is all you have to do. I would feel sorry for the jerks were I not in the same sinking boat they’re in. They need to be shoved overboard, so that they will learn a hard lesson, either sink or swim. Either do something productive or get the hell out of the way.

  35. Bob says:

    “I would feel sorry for the jerks were I not in the same sinking boat they’re in. They need to be shoved overboard, so that they will learn a hard lesson, either sink or swim. Either do something productive or get the hell out of the way.”
    Now, templar knight, I think you’re being too hard on the nation’s lobbyists. Just because they get paid to bribe politicians to rig legislation that puts the entire economy at risk so that a tiny handful of the super-wealthy can make money while everybody else sinks doesn’t justify making them walk the plank. They should at least be given life preservers before they’re thrown overboard.

  36. mark l. says:

    [Even "the messiah" and his economists can't predict the future]
    you don’t have to tell me that. They have three consecutive years of 4%+ growth figured into their deficit calculations.
    I can actually predict, that the deficit will exceed their projected 10 year deficti by at least 2-3 trillion.
    but, for the record, bob:
    at what time and date does obama take responsiblity for the economy?
    normally, I’d wait for his first years budget, but since he just got 787 billion, or 25% of the 2008 budget, to work his magic, responsiblity comes a little sooner.
    To hear libs explain it, bush might not have been responsible for the economy during his entire first term, as it was all bill clinton’s fault. Bush sqaundered those ‘surpluses’ in less than a year, AND is responsible for Obama’s economy as well?

  37. “Now, templar knight, I think you’re being too hard on the nation’s lobbyists. Just because they get paid to bribe politicians to rig legislation that puts the entire economy at risk so that a tiny handful of the super-wealthy can make money while everybody else sinks doesn’t justify making them walk the plank.”
    Which is, of course, why your god-king Barack Obama is hiring them to make policy.
    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/02/02/the-obama-lobbyist-ban-and-tom-daschle-the-silliness-continues.html
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4555416
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=6735898&page=1

  38. mark l. says:

    “Obama knew he was lying when he said it.”
    i don’t think so. i don’t think he has a clue on how to run an economy, as he doesn’t have the particular education, in either college credits or actual work experience.
    they knew the bottom would occur around second quarter, and that we would rebound on gdp, by 4q, without the stimulus.
    ” They don’t understand would creates wealth, as they think that printing money is all you have to do. ”
    if paul krugman advised them to jump off an economic bridge, they’d do it. this wh is a collection of little minds, wiki-ing their way into expertise of economic issues.

  39. mark l. says:

    “so you’ll pick out the unemployment numbers (since that’s one economic indicator that’s still in the tank) and claim that it proves your case”
    so, bob, in coma for the 2004 democratic campaign? i’m using the well respected standard of judgement which the dems have continuously been using to guage republicans. kinda like the standard of afghanistan being a ‘just and necessary’ war.
    if you want to go back and apologize for the misuse of the statistic by democrats, your apology is accepted.

  40. “at what time and date does obama take responsiblity for the economy?”
    Allegedly, Mark I, he did over three months ago.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/14/obama-on-economy-i-want-t_n_232265.html
    Of course, now that his failure is becoming even more obvious, he’s whining and screaming about how it isn’t his fault.
    And of course, his ignorant syncophants and worshipers like Bob lack the intelligence and will to even think otherwise.
    Case in point:
    “In short, you’re not interested in being fair and you have no facts to prove that a hypothetical Republican approach would have worked any better, so why pretend otherwise?”
    Actually, we do — and from an excellent source.
    “tax increases appear to have a very large, sustained, and highly significant negative impact on output. Since most of our exogenous tax changes are in fact reductions, the more intuitive way to express this result is that tax cuts have very large and persistent positive output effects.”
    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWI5MGI1ZTI1YzJiMjY2ZTgzNDc1NjZmOThjOTU3N2Q=#
    And who wrote that? Christina Romer, Obama’s economic advisor. Indeed, her research found that the multiplier on tax cuts was roughly 3 to 1, compared to barely 1 to 1 for government spending. Put bluntly, tax cuts are three times as effective as government spending — or you get the same effect as stimulus spending for a third of the price.
    Of course, Barack Obama and Bob both oppose tax cuts, because Obama Party members don’t pay taxes. This is all about wealth redistribution and taking from those who have demonstrated that they are and can be successful to reward those who have demonstrated the opposite.

  41. mark l. says:

    http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=409
    surplus deficit as a % of gdp:
    1999 2.5%
    2000 1.3%
    2001 -1.6%
    2002 -3.6%
    so…while we are clearing obama from responsiblity for his first two years, we can clear bush as well?
    time and date for obama owning the economy, bob. you’ll need to find it before 2012. better tell the messiah that he needs to ‘mop’ a little faster.

  42. mark l. says:

    787 billion?
    each 1% of unemployment is roughly 1.5 million jobs.
    so basically, obama had to come up with paying jobs for 4.5 million people.
    let’s say he makes them into ‘acorn envelope stuffers’…pays then 40k a year for the next two years…
    price tag? 360 billion. I just saved unemployment for half the price of obama’s stimulus. Dropping 787 billion on an economy, and getting stuck with 10% unemployment?
    clueless.

  43. Bob says:

    Here we go again. People who sat by complacently while Bush embarked on two wars whose costs in dollars alone could easily have funded the entire healthcare reform project and more, pretending ONLY NOW to be concerned about deficits. Did any of you express concerns about deficits during Bush’s administration? of course you didn’t. So that means that your current pretense of being deficit hawks is nothing but political posturing.

  44. Lala says:

    Health care is useless to me if I’m killed by terrorists.

  45. mark l. says:

    “People who sat by complacently while Bush embarked on two wars whose costs in dollars alone could easily have funded the entire healthcare reform project and more, pretending ONLY NOW to be concerned about deficits.”
    hmmm…
    700 billion for tarp.
    787 billion for stimulus.
    500 billion increase in the federal budget.
    obama voted for the first, and is instituting the last two.
    let’s pretend the cost of iraq(we can’t really have you complaining about two wars, when the messiah dumped 30k more troops on ag) totals 1 trillion.
    that’s 125 billion a year over eight years.
    obama is blowing thru 2 trillion, in less than a year.
    125 billion=2 trillion? in your world bob, yes.

  46. Bob says:

    “Health care is useless to me if I’m killed by terrorists.”
    You’re much less likely to die from a terrorist attack even under a worst-case scenario than many other more realistic causes. You’re probably more likely to die from somehow losing your healthcare and being unable to afford a needed treatment. This interesting article puts some things in perspective.
    http://reason.com/archives/2006/08/11/dont-be-terrorized
    “Even if terrorists were able to pull off one attack per year on the scale of the 9/11 atrocity, that would mean your one-year risk would be one in 100,000 and your lifetime risk would be about one in 1300. (300,000,000 ÷ 3,000 = 100,000 ÷ 78 years = 1282) In other words, your risk of dying in a plausible terrorist attack is much lower than your risk of dying in a car accident, by walking across the street, by drowning, in a fire, by falling, or by being murdered.”

  47. mark l. says:

    how bad are things?
    forget the wh trying to spin losing virginia…
    hot off the presses, robert reich is explaining away a midterm massacre.
    x-mas comes a year early.
    http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=lessons_overlearned

  48. Bob says:

    “obama is blowing thru 2 trillion, in less than a year.
    125 billion=2 trillion? in your world bob, yes.”
    As I’ve linked several times before (I won’t bore you again), the Bush era currently accounts for about 90% of federal budget deficits. And you didn’t once complain about debt and deficits during Bush’s term, did you?

  49. mark l. says:

    bush increased spending 22.8% from 02-05. (6%, 4.6%, 3.2%, 4.0%)
    obama is increasing spending by 16% in his first year’s budget.
    “And you didn’t once complain about debt and deficits during Bush’s term, did you?”
    wow, another lib who believes he can read minds.

  50. mark l. says:

    some other president’s?
    reagan increased federal spending by 14.5% in his first term. interesting in that he was able to provide an economic recovery that dropped the unemployment rate from 10.8% to 7.2% in 16 months, with so much less than obama ‘needs’.
    seriously, I’m a reagan conservative, not a bush republican. The ONLY thing compelling about the gop under bush, was that they weren’t as crazy as the dems.
    reagan 2nd term: 7.4%
    bush 41: 7.8%
    clinton I: 4.3%
    clinton II: 8.1%
    obama isn’t just off the track relative to bush. it’s every president since carter, 17.2%.

  51. Fred Beloit says:

    Hahaha this is great. Boob has been left by the Left to fight alone. Naturally, as usual, he is not winning. His librul comrades are so busy surging on other blogs to deny the unpopularity of: sick care so-called “reforms”, Biden (who is now less popular than Cheney was when he was VP), Reid, Pelousy, Obama, and the rest of the brigands that they can’t mount a swarm to attack here as they have in the past. By the way this item by Dan is the blog of the day over at Legal Insurrection. Well-deserved.

  52. Fred Beloit says:

    Correction, the item is Post of the Day at Legal Insurrection.