Some Upset With Obama’s “In The Back” Comment For Wrong Reason

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October 26, 2010

I think Dave Poff aka Haystack at Redstate is on the wrong track here. Obama was talking cars, not buses – I don't think there's anything racial in it at all. However, it causes me even greater concern than if he had been. He's a Democrat and he was in New England. We all know what happens to people who ride in the backseat with those bastards. I have no intention of being in the back when this idiot Obama drives Democrats off the bridge on Nov 2nd. Funny that the AP called the trip "clouded," don't you think? Maybe they really meant foggy? Heh!    

He said Republicans had driven the economy into a ditch and then stood by and criticized while Democrats pulled it out. Now that progress has been made, he said, “we can’t have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”



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Comments:
  1. mark l. says:

    not only are we ‘still’ in the ditch, but we have fallen further.
    if he believes the dems have pulled it out, he really doesn’t know jack squat.
    worst crisis since the great depression?
    great depression:
    1930, -8.6% of gdp
    1931, -6.5% of gdp
    1932, -13.1% of gdp
    2009? -2.6% of gdp. oh the humanity.

  2. Dr. Kildare says:

    This turd of a president needs to be impeached.

  3. Ken says:

    Democrats are all non-working, welfare-sopping, rapist urban trash. They are holding down our beloved nation. THE ONLY REASON WE AREN’T LIVING IN A FUTURISTIC SOCIETY IS BECAUSE THESE PERVERTS ARE STANDING IN OUR WAY. IT IS TIME FOR GOOD, NORMAL PEOPLE TO CLEANSE AMERICA–IN A BATH OF BLOOD.

  4. Fred Beloit says:

    Ken, I do renounce thee. We seem to be seeing with this election that the system still works. Now repeat after me: “I am Ken and I hereby renounce myself.” It is understood your charming sentiment may be reserved for future outrages, like totally fixed elections.

  5. Moobs says:

    yes we will be like rosa parks can someone please tell this tone deaf boy…………..er i mean man to stop putting his foot in his mouth

  6. Moobs says:

    or better yet we willbe like the imputent child in the back of the car

  7. Texas Mom says:

    While “Thelma and Louise” step on the gas as they drive us off into the Grand Canyon, I’m jumping out- even if I break a shoulder doing so.

  8. nishner says:

    “worst crisis since the great depression?”
    You don’t seem to understand what “since” means. Let me help:
    : from a definite past time until now
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/since
    And no, we haven’t fallen farther. The economy is slowly beginning to improve. Yeah, it should be faster. But if the TeaTard Economic Plan had been followed, there’d be no GM, no Chrysler, many of their suppliers would be out of business. Many of the banks would be gone. Unemployment insurance would have ended for many working class Americans.
    Put simply, it would be much, much worse.
    And Republicans did drive the economy into the ditch. Duh. And TARP was a Republican Plan. And Obama has actually cut the deficit from Bush’s last budget.

  9. Mook says:

    nishner, the economy is not improving, it’s become worse http://gourl.gr/d0e . Deficits have piled up to the extreme as a direct result of Obama/Pelosi’s reckless spending policies. Unemployment is still sky-high despite ruinous deficit spending which articificially “juiced” the economy with wasteful spending bailing out failed and corrupt financial and auto companies which should have been allowed to fail. We have two years of experience and what do we have?
    A $14,000,000,000,000 DEBT and still spending like drunken sailors. Federal employees wildly overpaid compared to private sector counterparts and getting worse
    Absolutely NO Transparency…Don’t read it, just Pass the Bill “so we can find out whats in it.. and get rid of those damn CSPAN cameras”
    Unelected, un-vetted, Czars out the kazooooooo
    Complete FAILURE to stop illegal immigration and suing ARIZONA while siding with the corrupt MEXICAN Government
    Obama lied about healthcare, he lied about the trillions he wasted in the name of “stimulus”, he lied about being a “uniter”, he lied about taxes, and he continued to claim “shovel ready” projects were available long after he learned that there was no such thing as shovel-ready govt projects. Obama arrogantly condescends to the 60% of Americans who do not like his big government, socialistic agenda. Vote these Democrat bastards out of office at every level.

  10. nishner says:

    1. Obama cut taxes. It’s a FACT.
    2. You think the economy’s bad now, you’d really have something to bitch about after GM / Chrysler failed and took down their supplier chain, their dealer network, a bunch of banks, etc.
    2. The reason we’re mired in deficit spending is the braindead fiscal policies of the Republicans during Bush’s presidency. They put two wars on the national credit card, CUT taxes during the wars, and added a huge entitlement without bothering to pay for – another charge to the national credit card. REAL fiscal conservatives pay for what they buy, they don’t charge it to future generations.
    3. Bush did TARP, not Obama.
    4. Republicans did nothing on immigration while they were in office for eight years, six years with control of the House / Senate / Presidency but you expect Obama to solve it immediately. That’s a joke.
    5. Bush had more Czars than Obama.
    Really, TeaTard talking points are stupid.

  11. King Samir Shabazz (D-black panther!) says:

    Woooo-hooooo Iz been missin’ my cracker nishnerd. Where you been gurl? Iz glad dat yo cracker azz got back up in here cause I needs some hep holdin’ up duh democrat end. Dees crackers be all relentless an-sh*t, but I gots yo cracker azz ta’ hep me now. Call ‘em teatards again be-otch,, I really likes it when you do dat kinda’ stuff. Where 2penny and blowfo? Deys be missin’ all duh fun!

  12. Mook says:

    nishner
    1. Obama cut some taxes, he raised others (tobacco, new taxes on offshore drilling). Most of all, he skyrocketed the debt to catestrophic levels.
    2. That’s an unproveable hypothetical on your part. For one thing, we wouldn’t have the extreme debt levels that we have now, and for another, bad businesses need to fail. It’s not the end of the world since other businesses will scramble to fill the void of failed business. Look at all the tech companies, some of them massive in size that have gone under over the years, yet technology hiring became stronger
    3. Bush initiated TARP, but Obama endorsed it and as Senator Obama VOTED for it. TARP was rammed down our throats by Bush and Pelosi supported by a large majority of Dems, but it was OPPOSED by house Repubs. Yet you want to put all the blame on Bush without acknowledging the role of Obama and the Dem Congress
    4. Obama is not only not solving immigration, he is going out of his way to interfere with states efforts to try and enforce immigration law, suing AZ and instructing ICE not to deport illegals. Bush’s track record on immigration enforcement was not good, but Obama’s efforts are a disaster in comparison
    5. Cite? I call BS on your false talking point claim that Bush had more czars and even with the fewer czars Bush appointed Dems screamed how Bush was overreaching his powers and now Obama is worse. Many of Obama’s czar positions did not even exist in previous administrations and were not authorized by law. Bush’s AIDS czar and manufacturing czars were Senate confirmable positions. Even the late Dem Senator Byrd called Obama’s czar appointments unconstitutional.

  13. nishner says:

    1. Your total tax bill is lower. Duh. And it was Bush that rocketed the deficit – his last budget was $1.4 trillion in the hole. Obama’s trying to get it under control.
    “Americans paid their lowest level of taxes last year since Harry Truman’s presidency, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data found.”
    “One-third of last year’s $862 billion economic stimulus went for tax cuts. Biggest reduction: The Making Work Pay tax credit reduced income taxes $800 for married couples earning up to $150,000.”
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm
    2. Name a tech company the size of GM that’s gone under.
    3. Tarp was a Republican program, designed by Republicans, implemented by Republicans. It even had the support of Glenn Beck and former Half-Term Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.
    4. “As for Obama having an unprecedented number of czars, the Bush administration had even more appointed or nominated positions whose holders were called “czars” by the media.”
    http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/czar-search/
    “Republicans have supported these positions in the past. When asked on Fox News if he had opposed any of President Bush’s “czars,” Rep. Darrell Issa admitted “No we didn’t.”

  14. Moobs says:

    noice now nishtard the nanny stater is trying to justify obama raising taxes on cigarettes because it is bad fo you can someone please ell this miserable obot ot gt out of my moters life and let her smoke herself into an early grave if sh sees fit btw tarp would have passed even if she opposed it because we all know palin is a bitch right?

  15. Moobs says:

    notice*
    tell*
    to get*
    mothers*
    she*
    btw tarp was a bad idea bush started? happy you better be you obot

  16. Mook says:

    1. My tax bill, like most Americans, has so far been unaffected by Obama’s legislation. But during his time in office Obama drove up deficits into the stratosphere with wasteful spending. Obama expanded the number of people not required to pay any federal income tax, and the “unforseen” increases in insurance costs from Obamacare can certainly be counted as a tax. Those deficits will have to be paid for one way or another and everybody knows it will involve more taxes.
    2. It would be nuts to pick just 1 since tech company failures are so commonplace. DEC, Digital Equip Corporation at one time was the 2nd largest employer in MA behind the state govt. at 140,000 employees and they dissolved into nothing and were bought by Compaq, yet tech hiring overall went up. Same story with former tech giants Control Data Corp (60,000 employees), Burroughs, Novell, Wang labs (40,000 employees), Prime computer, Hayes, Borland etc, etc, etc. Let bad companies fail and efficiences will improve employment as demonstrated by the technology industry… instead of subsidizing bad companies with taxpayer $$. It’s wasteful, and it props up failures
    3. In point of fact, TARP was voted on in Congress and passed with a large majority of Dems in Support and opposed by a majority of Repub house members.
    4. Factcheck is wrong in this case. What’s new about Obama is the number of unvetted czars not Here are the facts http://gourl.gr/d0q

  17. Moobs says:

    don’t bother him with facts he’ll accuse you of a hate crime and notice how he doesn’t want to address my fac that even if palin opposed TARP it still would have passed

  18. Moobs says:

    fact*

  19. Mook says:

    Regarding the factcheck.org link, they listed Karl Rove as “Domestic Policy Czar”. But Rove was white house sr advisor, just like Obama has a white house Sr Aavisor too, David Axelrod. Yet FactCheck failed to list Axelrod as Domestic Policy Czar for Obama, which would add another czar to Obama’s list. As another example, they list Karen Hughes as “Public Diplomacy Czar” But Hughes was the Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs and Obama has one of those too with Judith McHale, yet Factcheck didn’t count McHale as a czar in the Obama admin. And on and on with at least 19 stated “czars” in the Bush admin with counterparts in the Obama admin which were not counted as czars. Factcheck was wrong in this particular case for these reasons, and the larger point that Obama increased the # of czars who didn’t require Senate confirmation. That’s why Dem Senator Byrd blasted Obama for his excessive czar appointments.

  20. Moobs says:

    yeah ya see according to nishtard bush’s czars violate the constitution becaue um the msm says so and what happens whn the hyerinflation hits will bush be blamed too

  21. Moobs says:

    when*

  22. Moobs says:

    hyperinflation*

  23. nishner says:

    1. 2009 fiscal year began October 1, 2008. That’s Bush’s last year and last budget. It ended $1.41 trillion in debt. That’s the mess Obama inherited. Obama’s first year budget is actually less than that. So the idea he tripled the deficit is BS.
    Had Bush actually governed like a fiscal conservative, rather than like Senator Vitter visiting a whorehouse, and paid for those two wars and Medicare Part D, Obama wouldn’t have entered the sh**storm he did. Remember, Bush came into office with a budget essentially balanced. Eight years later he left it 1.4 trillion in the red. Great job Georgie!!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. Taxes by any measure are lower. It’s a FACT, whether you notice it or not.
    3. Bush had essentially the same number of Czars as Obama. Nobody cared — None of the Republicans did, nobody on Fox, the Republican Media Channel, did. And certainly nobody in the Republican White House since they were creating them. So it’s basically a BS issue.
    4. And here’s how full of sh** Republicans are. They bitch and moan about the deficit like it’s going to destroy civilization. Then when Obama proposes letting the Bush Tax Cuts expire — A Republican idea since they wrote the original bill — they’re just as apoplectic. Guess what? That tax cut will add another $3+ trillion dollar to the deficit. So Republicans want to put us even deeper into deficit. And if Obama lets those tax cuts through, Republicans’ll be back bitching again next year about how Obama’s blown the deficit even bigger.

  24. Mook says:

    1.”Obama’s first year budget is actually less than that” Oh yeah? http://gourl.gr/d0e
    2. Taxes were raised on offshore drilling and increased cigarrette taxes. He increased deficit spending so radically that future tax increases are inevitable. Obama’s tax cuts were too small to amount to much of anything and you know it. Now he’s not saying that he won’t do anything about the expiring tax cuts under Bush creating more uncertainty for businesses. Obama is a disaster
    3. Bush didn’t have NEARLY as many unvetted czars as Obama. Furthermore, Obama’s czars are much less likely to be Senate approved. That’s the difference. Bush had more transparency in his appointments allowing them to be vetted by the Senate. Obama is just doing back-room power grabs, just like the sleazy deals Obama admin cut with big pharma to get them on board, and all the corrupt dealmaking that he did to pass Obamacare. “We have to pass it to see what’s in it”
    4. Obama stimulus spending was a wasteful train wreck of a disaster and that’s the main problem. The problem is not too-low tax rates, the real problem is way-too-high govt spending. Obama has no idea how to improve the economy.. he’s never had to work in the private sector and neither have most of his cabinet. When Obama talks about “fixing” the economy he has no clue whatsoever what he’s talking about.

  25. nishner says:

    You need to look at that chart a little closer. The ’09 budget was set under Bush in October of ’08. So the bar that goes down deepest, the O9 budget, is Bush’s last budget. Got that? So Obama’s first budget is actually smaller than Bush’s last one.
    Again, overall taxes have gone down for 95%+ of Americans.
    Ah, we’re down to number of “unvetted” czars. Nobody complained about “unvetted” czars under Bush. So how may is too many? One more than Bush? Two more? Three more?
    And, like everything else, you’re wrong about stimulus spending. Ford’s doing great. GM’s planning an IPO. Both will be paying back the money loaned them.
    And that doesn’t even account for the hundreds of thousands of jobs saved.
    You want to read about corrupt dealmaking? Go read about the BS the Bush Administation pulled to pass the budget-busting Medicare Part D. They lied about how much it would cost, then threatened some of the No votes with political retribution if they didn’t switch. Course you probably missed that cause Republicans Can Do No Wrong.
    The reason we’re in the mess is Bush’s incompetence — sh** like this:
    http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/19/republican-budget-hypocrisy-health-care-opinions-columnists-bruce-bartlett.html

  26. mark l. says:

    see you election night, nish.
    beauty(and blame) are in the eyes of the voters.

  27. Mook says:

    “Ah, we’re down to number of “unvetted” czars”. No, we’re down to CRAZY WASTEFUL spending like there’s no tommorrow from a President who has no clue what he’s doing. None. At. All. The man admitted that he learned AFTER THE FACT that there were no “shovel-ready” projects from the federal govt. He’s an idiot who has no clue what he’s doing. Worse, after Obama learned that there’s no such thing as “shovel ready” projects he STILL continued to claim there were govt. shovel ready projects, lying his ass off. He’s a willfull liar. It’s why he cut the deals with big Pharma to get them on his side for the Obamacare fiasco. Obama is the most dishonest President in modern history, maybe the most dishonest in all of American history. He’s a liar and a fraud. Thank god people are waking up to see what a fraud he truly is.

  28. Mook says:

    “The ’09 budget was set under Bush in October of ’08.” Umm.. Congress controls spending and Congress, in ’08 was controlled by Pelosi/Reid. No question about that. No surprise that you dishonestly try to deflect responsibility from those who truly are responsible. You’re nothing but a party hack. And not a very bright one at that.

  29. nIshner says:

    Considering you can’t read a simple bar chart, I’d be careful about calling others “not very bright”.
    Not to worry, any gains the Republicans make will be lost next election once people see how bat sh**crazy and incompetent they are.

  30. WBestPresidentEver says:

    Obama can get in the trunk. Remove the lock and throw away the keys and leave the car “Somewhere Out There” never to be found. LOL

  31. mark l. says:

    “Not to worry, any gains the Republicans make will be lost next election once people see how bat sh**crazy and incompetent they are.”
    way to dust off the gop’s chief talking point after 2006.
    obama got elected on people freaking out over a 700 billion dollar bailout.
    he proceeds to run up another 3 trillion, after promising a “net spending cut”.
    voter took him into the wh, and voters will take him out. the 2010 elections are just a rather massive kick to his nuts for being such a liar.

  32. mark l. says:

    “After years of fiscal recklessness by President Bush and Republicans, President Obama and Congress are committed to getting our budget under control – a crucial part of our plan to strengthen the American economy. On July 22nd, the House passed the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act 2009 (HR 2920) by a vote of 265-166. This bill requires Congress to offset the costs of tax cuts or increases in entitlement spending with savings elsewhere in the budget. If the net effect of all legislation enacted during a session of Congress increased the deficit, there would be an across-the-board reduction in certain mandatory programs. By restoring ‘pay-as-you-go’ budget discipline as the law of the land, we are returning to the basic rule for every family budget: you don’t spend money you don’t have.”
    nancy pelosi, march 27, 2007. now that was batsh*t crazy speech.
    to repeat:
    “By restoring ‘pay-as-you-go’ budget discipline as the law of the land, we are returning to the basic rule for every family budget: you don’t spend money you don’t have.”

  33. mark l. says:

    i’m sorry that was from 2009.
    seeing as they dems, with a rather large congressional contingent were unable to pass a budget, it seems they need to ‘get off the pot’.

  34. Mook says:

    Republicans need to be playing more videos of Obama promising a “net spending cut” economic policy and Pelosi promising “pay as you go” and “drain the swamp” in order to remind voters what shameless liars Obama and Pelosi truly are

  35. nishner says:

    No, Obama got elected because the economy sucked under Bush. He led pretty much the whole campaign. As for the coming election, I’m going to bet you predicted a McCain win all the way up to the end. So you’re kinda like a stopped clock that’s right twice a day.
    And if your criteria for being a “liar” is making campaign statements that don’t come true, you’re going to have to include Reagan – Gonna Balance the Budget -, Bush, Bush, and every other Republican politician in your hate list.
    It’s hard work fixing the Bush Recession, but Obama’s first budget is lower than Bush’s last. It’s going to take awhile. But since Republicans seem more interested in destroying Obama than helping the country, it’s probably going to take longer than anyone thinks.
    You apparently don’t understand Pay Go, which was repealed by Republicans in 2002. It applies to new programs. Say if you want to have a massive tax cut, like the Republicans do, you’re supposed to offset it with spending cuts, which they don’t. Liars? You decide. But remember, they hate those deficits, except if they can get a massive tax cut through. Then deficits don’t matter. F****** Hypocrites.
    Here’s you Bat Sh** Crazy TeaTard programs. Wait until independents and moderats get a load of this stuff:
    1. Git rid of Social Security
    2. Git rid of Medicare
    3. Git rid of Clean Air and Clean Water Act
    4. Git rid of the Department of Education and phase out public education
    5. Cut corporate income tax to 9%
    6. Git rid of Pell Grants
    7. Cut Wall Street regulation
    8. Git rid of HCR including popular reforms like ending recission, allowing children to be covered up to 26, etc.
    9. But Spend more on Defense
    That’ll make us a well-to-do Third World Country

  36. Mook says:

    Not true that Obama’s first budget was lower than Bush’s last yr. That a DNC approved talking point intended to willfully deceive. Budgets do not come from the White House, they come from Congress, and Dems have been in control of Congress since Jan. 2007. For FY 2009 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed Pres. Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Obama could take office. Only AT THAT TIME, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets IT WAS NOT BUSH’S BILL, as much as dishonest hacks like nishner continue to claim. Continually repeating a lie doesn’t make it true. And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009. Let’s remember what the deficits look like http://gourl.gr/d0e
    Obama went on a wild ass reckless spending spree the moment he entered office. He had NO INTENTION of honoring any of his promises to run a “net spending cut” economic policy. When he made those promises he knew damn well that he was lying just to get into office, just as he knowingly lied about “shovel ready” projects long after he learned there was no such thing. Just like Obama knew he was lying about being the “most transparent” administration in history after we’ve seen his sleazy dirty dealings behind closed doors with Obamacare (big Pharma bought, Lousiana purchase, blocking CSPAN cameras etc.) Sleazy as hell, but that’s who Obama is and that’s who’s leading the Democrats.

  37. mark l. says:

    “So you’re kinda like a stopped clock that’s right twice a day.”
    dem doomsday clock, at 11:59 pm. It will strike midnight, nov 2.
    in two years, obama has done more damage to the democrat party than ANY republican effort could have produced.
    kennedy’s seat in mass, feingold going down hard…
    the only liberals left will be kerry and boxer.
    obama has effectively gutted your leadership and any perceptions of moderation.
    your party is now percieved as THE extremists. good luck climbing out of this one.

  38. Mook says:

    1. Full audit with plan to eliminate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They’re now funding 95% of all new mortgages with taxpayers on the hook 100%, yet these liabilities are “off budget”. End it
    2. Slash govt payrolls and bring salary levels and govt retirement packages back down to earth. Retiring at age 50 with full payment for sick days then 90% of your the highest earning yr receiving retirement payments/benefits the day they retire? Really? And Dems want to go after Social security. No one gets to think about touching Social security payments or retirement age until govt workers have to wait until age 65 for their retirement benefits to kick in like the rest of us who wait for SS.
    3. Full audit of the Federal reserve. Reign in their power to print money
    4. Congressional investigations on the DOJ race based decisions, including the DOJ dismissal of the black panther voter intimidation caught on video in Philly
    5. Congressional investigations into Obama’s corrupt dealmaking with Obamacare, including payoffs to Pharma, kickbacks to Senators and Dem cronies
    6. Everyone who has income needs to pay some taxes, not matter how little. Too few people pay any taxes at all. That needs to change
    7. Crackdown on illegal immigration. More border security enforcement with vigorous, frequent crackdowns on employers of illegal aliens including big fines and jail time for repeat offenders. Restore vigorous deportation of illegals.
    You won’t see any of these things addressed under Obama/Pelosi.

  39. nishner says:

    Bush’s 2008 Fiscal Year Budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit.
    Obama’s 2009 Fiscal Year Budget had a $1.29 trillion deficit.
    Pop Quiz: Which is Less?
    So Obama didn’t TRIPLE the deficit, he actually CUT it. It was BUSH that TRIPLED the deficit.
    Or, as the Cato institue puts it: Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit
    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11094
    Damn, guess there are some honest conservatives.
    And, again, on your chart. The ’09 column is Bush’s last budget. It’s NOT OBAMA’s.
    Here’s a similar chart color coded by president.
    http://www.cato.org/images/pubs/commentary/mitchell-122909-2.jpg
    And as far as those massive spending bills, of course Congress passed them. It’s that or let the country collapse, stop paying Social Security, Medicare, both wars, etc. Bush had been in office seven years, the economic collapse was the result of his irresponsible economic policies and the decades long drive to deregulate everything.
    Great Job Georgie!!!

  40. mark l. says:

    for the moment, let me ‘concede’ that your perceptions of the gop slate is correct, and they are the worst of the worst of ANY congressional classes…
    the dems are about to get trounced by them.
    this nugget is far more informative of how badly the dem brand has fallen. I relish the idea of how truly crazy and unqualified the libs portray the gop. It make the 50 seat house loss all the more humiliating for them.
    It’s like losing to a deaf and blind parapalegic in basketball…by double digits.

  41. mark l. says:

    “Great Job Georgie!!!”
    *********************************
    “We’ll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there’s one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they’d rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.”
    8/31/10.
    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html
    it would seem that bush is more ‘respected’ than obama.
    or would you feel better if we just said he is ‘less feared’?

  42. Mook says:

    nishner, you mistate the numbers because you’re too stupid to read, and then you double-down on your stupidity by willfully deceiving in your refusal to acknowledge that Congress controls spending, not the President, although the Dem congress has given Obama carte blanche on his reckless spending spree. FY 09 is not “Bush’s budget” no matter how many times you repeat that lie. As has already been stated, Pelosi/Reid bypassed Pres Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Obama could take office. Only AT THAT TIME, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets. NOT BUSH’S BUDGET AND REPEATING THAT LIE DOESN’T MAKE IT TRUE
    Fiscal yr 2008 deficit (Dem Congress)$438 billion http://gourl.gr/d09
    Fiscal yr 2009 deficit (Dem Congress w/ Dem President) $1.4 TRILLION, the biggest since 1945, the Congressional Budget Office reported. http://gourl.gr/d08
    Fiscal yr 2010 deficit (Dem Congress w/ Dem President) CBO estimates $1.3 TRILLION
    There’s no running aways from the facts. For all the complaints about Republican deficit spending, Obama/Pelosi leading the Dems have been FAR, FAR worse.

  43. nishner says:

    Fiscal yr 2009 deficit (Dem Congress w/ Dem President)
    Wrong.
    Fiscal year 2009 budget was set Oct, 008 when Bush was in office. Which makes it Bush’s Budget. Or are you so frigging clueless you can’t associate dates with presidential terms?
    That’s why The Cato Institute titled the article: Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit
    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11094
    *******************
    The election isn’t a referendum on Obama, it’s all about the economy. And there is no TeaTard plan for fixing the economy, beyond fiscal irresponsibility of cutting taxes and trying to fill the pockets of their corporate backers. For 2012, probably the worst thing that can happen for Republicans is to win the House or both House / Senate. They’ll no longer simply be able to say No to everything. They’ll actually have to try to do something. And since they have no program, no ideas, it won’t end well for them.
    And pray to God, Republicans nominate Palin in 2012. Obama wins in a walk over possibly the most clueless presidential nominee in US history.

  44. mark l. says:

    i’d leave judgment in this matter to the voters.
    they had the ‘wisdom’ to elect obama. they’ll certainly be able to sort this all out in the midterms and 2012.
    there comes a point, nish, where even if everything you say is true, you realize the emptiness of your argument. welcome to politics.
    enjoy your asswhipping.

  45. Fred Beloit says:

    nish is hopeless. nish thinks the election is just about the Congress. Poor sod thinks the public loves the job Obama is doing but blames Congress for doing just what Obama has instructed them to do. Well at least 37% think he is good at his job. Not nish, Obama.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

  46. mark l. says:

    “And pray to God, Republicans nominate Palin in 2012. Obama wins in a walk over possibly the most clueless presidential nominee in US history.”
    so obama wins, depending on the gop nomination.
    says a lot about how he is doing, even in your eyes.
    speaking of ‘how is he doing’…haven’t seen much afghanistan news-
    how is our ‘neo-con* in chief’ faring?
    please don’t interpret the ‘con’ as short form of conservative. it should be interpretted as a reference to ‘con-artist’.
    he conned the libs like the lemmings they are…
    now they own a war. suckers.

  47. Fred Beloit says:

    BTW, mark, do the name Jharp strike a familiar note?

  48. mark l. says:

    never wanted to type that name again, let alone speak it…
    but the froth and foam are equivalent. there really can’t be more than 50k people in the entire US like him.
    the same?
    not likely.
    the have the same personality defect(narcissism), though.
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    nish, i would point out that obama certainly can’t be a ‘con-man’. the root of the term is “confidence”, and he doesn’t exactly inspire.
    I bet even you are flaccid over his past year and a half of speeches. after all, the greatest orator of our time failing to sell what libs would have the public to believe is the greatest chages to our healthcre system, evah.
    is it the idea, or the salesman?
    this is consitent with that narcissism slight, even you think you could sell healthcare to the public better than obama.
    let me give you a broader understanding of the public view of govt. regardless of party in power of congress, the public percieves the majority/minority as children.
    the president, is seen as the adult above the fray. as a result, the president bears a substantial blame beyond rational thought, but also benefits from irrational exuberance.
    there really isn’t much to be exuberant about…
    maybe he could shoot a few more somali pirates. thus far, that has been his high point.

  49. Landru says:

    Nish claims:
    “You need to look at that chart a little closer. The ’09 budget was set under Bush in October of ’08. So the bar that goes down deepest, the O9 budget, is Bush’s last budget. Got that? So Obama’s first budget is actually smaller than Bush’s last one.”
    The FY09 budget was a creature of the Demo Congress, pal. Look at the voting: Dem 214 aye, 14 nay, Rep 196 Nay, 0 Aye. The Dems even voted down a Repub amendment to bring down discretionary spending below 1 trillion. And please correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe Bush signed off on any of this. They had a stop gap measure in October to keep the government running, but then all the Dem spending bills were signed after Obama took office.
    “Just hours before the government’s new fiscal year began on Oct. 1, President Bush signed a stopgap comprehensive spending measure to keep the government funded and running. The House passed (370-58) the continuing resolution on Sept. 24, and the Senate followed suit (78-12) on Sept. 27. According to CQ, the spending measure funds most government programs at FY08 levels through March 6, when new spending bills can be worked out with a new president”

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