So, How Did Rube Andrew Sullivan Really Do?

March 20, 2011

On October 27, 2008, Andrew Sullivan posted: The Top Ten Reasons Conservatives Should Vote For Obama. Given all this playing out today, I thought I'd go back and have a look.

Coming in at number 10 for Andy: A body blow to racial identity politics.

Yes, so long as you don't mind being bullied if you're a white male: DoJ To White Male Bullying Victims: Tough Luck. But then, that's probably not as bad as the whole voter intimidation at the hands of the New Black Panthers thing you might have to endure – some body blow, that could be.

Number 9 – well, do I really need to say anything, or shall we just sit here and chuckle at him? Less debt.

Number 8: A return to realism and prudence in foreign policy. Obama has consistently cited the foreign policy of George H. W. Bush as his inspiration. McCain's knee-jerk reaction to the Georgian conflict, ….

What's that you say by way of clarification today, Andrew? "My only point on this is that the decision to commit military forces in North Africa – made on a dime in one Tuesday meeting…."

Well, Andy, I'll bring the knee if you'll play the jerk, … provided you find it "prudent," of course!

Number 7 is grand. An ability to understand the difference between listening to generals and delegating foreign policy to them.

Perhaps, but then, you strongly opposed Hillary in the Democrat primary specifically for her views on foreign policy and that's precisely to whom Obama delegated on Libya and who knows where else, frankly. Obama's Women Advisers Pushed War Against Libya Well, at least they weren't wearing uniforms! Not that there's anything wrong with that or anything where women are concerned.

Number 6: Temperament. Obama has the coolest, calmest demeanor of any president since Eisenhower. Conservatism values that kind of constancy….

True, assuming he isn't actually just disengaged. Either way, if you achieve it by celebrating the samba on the very day you send young men off to war, constantly watching, or playing basketball, in between vacations, golf rounds and WH soirees while purportedly running the country from the Oval Office, well, … I'm not so sure conservatives are as down with it as you might think.

But anyway, what I really like about Obama is that he’s gone 29-3 in his bracket picks over the first two days. You have to spend a lot of time watching college basketball to be that good.

Coming in at number 5: Faith. Obama's fusion of Christianity and reason, his non-fundamentalist faith, is a critical bridge between the new atheism and the new Christianism.

Yes, in August, the Washington Post pointed out precisely how well that's working for him. Poll shows more Americans think Obama is a Muslim.

Number 4: A truce in the culture war. Obama takes us past the debilitating boomer warfare that has raged since the 1960s. Nothing has distorted our politics so gravely; nothing has made a rational politics more elusive.

Yes, said truce concept began the derailment of Mitch Daniels as a potential GOP presidential candidate for 2012 and as temperate a Republican as Tim Pawlenty is now vowing to reverse DADT. Meanwhile, gay marriage is cropping up on state ballots everywhere and losing. But don't stop at number 4, Andrew, Charlie Sheen has two "goddesses" and nothing on you … you're #Winning!

Number 3: Two words: President Palin.

Well, that's purely a hypothetical, we'll just have to settle for a Miss Me, Yet George Bush billboard, given how you turned on him.

Number 2: Conservative reform. Until conservatism can get a distance from the big-spending, privacy-busting, debt-ridden, crony-laden, fundamentalist, intolerant, incompetent and arrogant faux conservatism of the Bush-Cheney years, it will never regain a coherent message to actually govern this country again. The survival of conservatism requires a temporary eclipse of today's Republicanism.

Ironically, I agree with you, though I suspect we have different visions of what "reform" means. In any event, so far you've done about as well as a stopped watch on Obama. So, let's get to number 1, shall we.

The War Against Islamist terror. The strategy deployed by Bush and Cheney has failed.

Good heavens! Don't tell us, Andrew. Tell Obama, you RUBE!!!!!!

Via Time: Why Obama Defaulted to Bush Foreign Policy Positions


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  1. Ragspierre says:

    Michael Moore, Louis Farrakhan and assorted Wisconsin union hacks are having kittens over Obama attacking Libya, as the ultimate rubes self-identify.
    Speaking of rubes…or should it be SUCKERS..???

  2. Susie Q says:

    Let’s just get it out there, and forgive me for yelling, but they deserve it.

  3. tom says:

    Don’t worry, these A**hats will still be supporting the one in the next election.
    Count on it.

  4. Jeff Weimer says:

    “McCain’s knee-jerk reaction to the Georgian conflict, ….” waaaaaaas EXACTLY the one Teh One eventually adopted. One week and two revisions after his initial reaction – which couldn’t have been knee-jerk, right Andrew?
    That whole thing from the campaign was going to sink him – he was dropping until McCain abandoned the field to “lead” the effort on TARP.
    It’s also why I’m saddened but not surprised he’s dithered on everything foreign policy from Iran two years ago to Tunisia and especially Egypt and Libya now. He doesn’t have the chops. Never did. It showed then and it shows now.

  5. Bigol says:

    If the world was consistent this would be the headline today…
    I plan on starting some other headlines taking some of the current news taken to its most hyperbolic.

  6. andy says:

    Obama would rather run for office than run the office. He is our nation’s oldest teenager.

  7. Buck O'Fama says:

    10. Most polarizing administration EVAH!
    9. Debt, debt and MORE DEBT!
    8. Foreign policy is clearly foreign to him.
    7. Listens to SEIU far more than any general.
    6. Being comatose is not synonymous with calm temperment.
    5. Obama was an atheist until he realized HE was god.
    4. Culture war on back burner as society collapses around him.
    2. Conservatism was a bad cold, Liberalism is a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!
    1. War against man-made-disasters led by man who bows to everyone.

  8. Jamie says:

    Well done, Dan. Couldn’t agree with this post more. Andrew has a lot to answer for, his main problem being his penchant for falling head over heals for the politician de jur (see: Bush 2001, Obama 2007).