Trump Wanted Bush Impeached In 2008

April 15, 2011

Seriously, the future of the nation hangs in the balance and some morons want to saddle up with a rich, self-promoting, rodeo clown? Please just turn in your voter registration, or join the idiots on the progressive side, now. That's precisely who you would be helping with this nonsense. It's times like these when I realize how many truly stupid people on our side we have to drag along to win that worry me the most, politically. There's no way America has had this many brain injuries in our recent past.

Mark continues to question Donald Trump's conservatism. Where was he during the Tea Party's rise and throughout the battles it was having? Why was he donating to Senator Schumer, Congressman Anthony Weiner, and Hillary Clinton's campaigns when the Tea Party was beginning to rise? Mark also speaks about how Donald Trump wants universal healthcare – how is that conservative? Finally, Mark plays audio from Trump contradicting himself on whom the worst President is – first he says it was George W. Bush, then Jimmy Carter, then Obama.

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  1. Ragspierre says:

    For a few months, Trump hashed out a policy agenda. It wasn’t much, but it was enough to fill a quickie book: The America We Deserve, published in January 2000. The Trump of 11 years ago sounds a lot like the Trump who has taken over cable TV and the Huffington Post top banner these past few weeks: He’s against immigration amnesty. He’s worried about terrorism. He’s rending his hair over America’s economic decline. Oh, and there were a few other things.
    “We must have universal healthcare,” wrote Trump. “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses.”
    The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. “Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork,” he writes.
    Trump is a joke.
    A dangerous, dirty joke.

  2. unseen says:

    when are you and other conservative voices going to understand that polls are a tool of the left. All polls push a narrative. The narrative that the media wants to push today is Trump is running away with it. they want to tie the GOP to this clown.
    All the pollsters are leftists. The elft has been using polls for 50 years now to push their narratives. Stop getting your panties in a bunch and understand what is going on.
    The entire media is pushing this narrative of Trump.
    did WI teach you nothing? The “polls” there showed how Walker was losing the battle by 60/40 how the unions were gaining ground, how the TEA party was a nonfactor.
    Then you had the curt election and the conservative won in a liberal state. The very birther place of the progressives.
    The media played their card for all to see if WI did not teach you that the MSM will use polls to push a narrative I don’t know what else to tell you.
    All the polls but those right before an election are lies and leftist PR.

  3. Tony Dow says:

    Trump is ‘blocking’ for someone. Who knows who that is….Romney, Christie? He is coming in and creating chaos and making Obama and the media have to answer to their lack of vetting last election. He will back off and someone will step up. That someone will be fully endorsed by Trump.
    He is doing a great job of doing what the media didn’t do last election: tie Obama to Ayers, demand his long form birth certificate.
    It is working. Look how Obama has acted in the last week. He needs to create bigger distractions to keep Trump from the spotlight.
    I love it. Good political theater.

  4. Dan, you really are missing the point about Trump. The Republicans are going to shoehorn their typical place holder next year regardless of what you or Mark Levin or anyone else says or does. I too would love to see Marco Rubio (too early), Herman Cain (too early), Jim DeMint (not interested in 2012), or any of several other bona fide conservatives. But they aren’t running and/or don’t have the name recognition or “big personality” to fight their own party machinery or shake things up enough to win. They will “handled” by the establishment.
    Trump is NOT going to win the GOP nomination so relax! BUT, he WILL shake up the one-party system. He really IS Obama’s biggest nightmare, something that came through loud and clear during the Hannity interview this week (which was fantastic). He sounds like he could have written Michelle Malkin’s “Culture of Corruption” and added even more first-hand material. He was impressive and compelling. He stated yesterday that he would ONLY consider running independent if the polls show he could win. That’s the key. Let’s talk about that.
    The Republicans show every indication that they intend on continuing their war against the Tea Party while grooving the path for either Romney or Pawlenty or “Two-Ton” Christie. Conservatives will be even more pissed than we are today and so we will again be asked to vote for a WEAK, placeholder candidate as the LOTE. Epic fail.
    Here’s the thing though. Even with a billion dollars to spend Obama is also very likely to be WEAK. Not only is the economy still going to be soft and unemployment high, the Clintons are still smarting and deeply resentful at Obama for playing the race card against Hillary in 2008. Payback time! Hillary is going to hurt him in the primaries and beyond. That’s two WEAK candidates facing very frustrated voters looking for something different.
    I believe Trump’s goal is to make sure that the right kind of Republican wins for a change. A Trump disappointed from failing to win the GOP nomination to an unacceptable candidate could well be still garnering over 30% of the vote against two WEAK candidates. If so, it is hard to believe that any of the other candidates would be garnering more than 37-38%. Trump could even be running neck-and-neck in the polls. That is why the entire establishment has gone apoplectic over Trump. They are terrified that with the seriously flawed candidates we seem to be headed for, Trump could win.
    The key to dealing with Trump is not to pile on with ridicule, or calling us retards for not being as “enlightened” as you or to try to “educate” America about what is wrong with Trump as a candidate. It’s counterproductive and besides, we get it already! But Trump is the only PLAYER who can shake up the GOP in a way that we conservatives could very well benefit from. We could end up with the candidate we want only because Trump scared them to death.
    The shortest distance between two point isn’t always a straight line. Stop trying to draw straight lines. If Trump wins, it will only be because the STUPID PARTY insists on being even more stupid ever before. THAT is what you need to be attacking. THAT is the value that Trump represents to me and I suspect lots of other conservatives.

  5. Ragspierre says:

    Filly, that is really nuts. And you worked so hard writing all that…bilge.
    I have to give you points for not saying “Jebbie” anywhere. That must have hurt.

  6. memomachine says:

    @ Ragspierre
    @ Pasadena Phil
    I think you’re on the right track. The issue isn’t what to do with Trump, do nothing. It isn’t how to deal with him, leave him alone. Right now he is a missile aimed at Obama’s past and that is fine by me. The more he gets attacked by people, the better it is because people unfamiliar with the situation will want to find out what the fuss is all about.

  7. ET says:

    Seriously Rags…STFU. What the hell is your issue with PP? It seems mostly about your need to be the self-appointed moderator of this blog. Get over yourself…

  8. Ragspierre says:

    Hey, if you can read Filly and get anything out of it, go with power up.
    But you’ll forgive me (or get stuffed) if I observe that he is all over the map, and sometimes (often) posts stuff that is just daffy.
    Like here.
    If you think Trump is some kind of useful idiot…well, I know that memo has no morals. Using a useful idiot would be fine with him. Seems dangerous to me.
    And, ET, see if you can make me. Seems I have the same right here as you.

  9. Ragspierre says:

    “I believe Trump’s goal is to make sure that the right kind of Republican wins for a change.”
    Just what PRECISELY gives you any support for the idea that Trump would know “the right kind of Republican”…?!?!?
    The guy has been all over the political spectrum in just the last few years.
    Why is it awful for Romney to pass RomneyCare, and smooth and groovy for Trump to advocate for socialized medicine a la Canada???
    Gawd, what a bunch of foooooooooooooooools.

  10. sickofrinos says:

    Kotex Pete with another useless post.

  11. BR says:

    Hey, let’s not be so hard on rodeo clowns. Remember, they get sent in to save the official performers when they’re in the dirt.

  12. A conservative voter says:

    We didn’t impeach former Pres. George W. Bush becuase he was doing a good job for the last eight years. It is Obama that need to be impeach. Hope he will be vote out in 2012 so we wouldn’t have him for the next 4 more years. Trump is moving up in first place from the polls. It is not looking good for Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, and Mike Huckabee. They will not get the nominee in 2012.

  13. Elmo says:

    Part one:
    I ain’ tossing Donald Trump under the bus. Nope. Not gunna happen today (tomorrow … who knows?). Fair to say though, Mr. Trump’s capable of driving right over himself, without any help from any of us. He is what he is. And we all have our own view/belief of what that is? The totality of the discussion … rather complex indeed (some good comments in thread).
    So yes … a few are rushing to embrace. But I believe it is certainty they are after. Being faced with a crew most motley, of panty waisted glue factory rejects (and at least one of em’s a backstabber for sure). Not so slyly silk shopping, before entering the paddock proper (“will announce on _____ “). Simply, Buraq Hussein IS NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY ELIGIBLE to be President. Wherever the fook that turd was actually born? And Donofrio’s argument, from now two years ago … untarnished (not even smudged).
    The conversation will not end, until answers are provided. As much as many would have it end. And since the turd Obama, is keeper of the very same atomic documents? (You can’t make this sh*t up). The nauseating insanity of such, ignored by all. Completely. Trump, after Lakin, now the only one giving voice. Unafraid.
    Cosby can dribble out his pie hole: “shut up.” And then Rubio a day later … same. Well, that’s not going to happen (you can try Marc, but you’re only embarassing yourself). Don’t like the topic? Don’t like the messenger? Fine. But Trump, he’s got the platform, for today anyway (TYVM). What he does with it? What transpires?

  14. Elmo says:

    Part two:
    But I, as in me, WILL be standing in front. Tall (I’ll take some of them tomatoes). Defending his first amendment right. While others would seek to silence. His viability as a ‘candidate’ certainly fair discussion, to be sure (snarf/snark away … please do).
    Out of over six hundred posts (in five plus years) exactly five (!) have been specifically ’bout the birth cert. And these three, were posted in the same period of one week:
    Friday, April 15th, 2011
    OBAMA: I Was Born in Hawaii
    The Daily Mail reports that President Barack Obama addressed the “birther” issue yesterday while on a whirlwind tour in Chicago that raised him $2 million. ‘I wasn’t born here,’ Mr Obama said. ‘Just want to be clear, I was born in Hawaii.’
    … If you say so Chucklehead, if you say so [and yet still, near every MSM 'article' about same. For some reason (snarf) includes the following: thoroughly debunked by us ... CNN/al Qaeda Propaganda/AP/MSNBC/etc]. Two years ago, you Chucklehead c o m p l e t e l y ignored the question [thinking/hoping/pretending/praying it would go away (not much of a poker player)]. TWO YEARS ago. Now, you indeed are finally stepping up to the plate. And taking a stand. However, if you think we’re going to take your word on anything, ANYTHING at all?
    Then you Sir, are out of your ever lovin freakin mind. Well and truly. Clinically mentally ill. Certifiable.

  15. jakee308 says:

    We’re Not necessarily stupid, just frustrated with the lack of guts and straight talk from someone who either has name recognition (and let’s face it the Presidency IS a popularity contest) AND the willingness to speak the truth and stand up to the Media bred narrative and the Democrats outright vicious and dangerous lies. (plus it’s nice to see the MEDIA squirm).
    Show me someone who has any chance of being elected who’s willing to state what they believe in (and that I believe in) counter the lies of the Leftist’s and the MEDIA, has a vision for the future of America that isn’t more of the same Leftist Tyranny, has actually met a payroll and created a job and doesn’t believe in a nanny-state philosophy that will kill us all with attempted caring and we’ll cheer THEM on too.
    Until that person stands up and is willing to undergo the process of an election, I’ll continue to cheer Mr. Trump on.
    Oh and all you who sneer and call those who aren’t in your camp stupid and ceding the election to the progressives; hows all your considered judgmentalism and self-righteous opinions worked out for conservatism and the country lately? People listening to the likes of those who style themselves as smarter, wiser and rational has resulted (since Reagan) in the election of a bumbling elitist leftist snob, a hillbilly scam artist rapist, the son of an elitist leftist who, though he was courageous in a time of devastating crisis, like his father acted like a stumbling fool and put us deeper into debt and now an Islamic taught leftist chameleon who’s main goal seems to be the destruction or at least diminishment of the world’s ONLY FREE REPUBLIC and DEFENDER OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY so that a religious fundamentalist DEATH CULT will achieve domination.
    Thanks for your considered opinion which seems to be (and I’m paraphrasing here): all us little folks out here are just too stupid to be let off our leashes so why don’t we all STFU AND STFD and let all you ohh so smart politically savvy party operatives with such great records at picking leaders for the country get on with what you’ve done so well.
    You’re entitled to your opinion but I don’t appreciate being put down and sneered at so take your elitism down the street, we’re all full up here.

  16. Ragspierre says:

    GasWhooot woke up early to sock-puppet and watch the cartoons.

  17. susan says:

    “Bush has been so bad, maybe the worst president in the history of this country. He has been so incompetent, so bad, so evil that I don’t think any Republican could have won,” Trump told in an exclusive Nov. 11, 2008, interview… “You know, you can be enemies with people, whether it’s Iran, Iraq, or anyplace else and you can still have dialogue. These people wouldn’t even talk with him. It’s terrible,” he said.
    Regarding Obama, Trump said, “I think [he's] going to lead through consensus. It’s not going to be just a bull run like Bush did. He just did whatever the hell he wanted.”
    If Trump loves his country so much he is willing to question Obama’s elegibility requirement why was Trump praising Obama just after the election?
    WHy is Trumpet bringing up the BC issue two years after fact if he had all the concern?
    I agree with the post, Rodeo Clowns are the good guys who get in the way of the bull before the bull gores the rider.
    Trump lets the bull gore the rider then after the rider is dead Trump then comes into the arena declaring ‘I going to stop that bull!’
    Trump is a L’Orange Clown with a permenant costume he can never change.

  18. Ragspierre says:

    Trump is only a “capitalist”. Meaning, he is a capitalist of a sort.
    The sort he is NOT is a market capitalist, the kind I AM, and the only kind I think consistent with conservative values (people free to make choices to the maximum extent possible).
    Yesterday on Rush, I heard him say what I’ve heard before from him. Essentially, he said we “lost” $4 billion to Columbia last year. This is like saying you “lost” $100.00 when you went to the grocery store yesterday.
    So, either is man is an economic idiot, or a demagogue. There is no other alternative that I know, unless he is both.
    Both, to me, are dangerous, and we’ve had plenty of economic idiots and demagogues in leadership.
    Consistency is a virtue, IMNHO. Trump has none. Nobody supporting him here has any, either. Palin is slimed because she supported McAnus? But Trump is OK on supporting Chuck YOU Schumer? Please.
    Maybe some of you are emotionally invested in this guy, which is fine. Maybe the appeal is just seeing someone punching your enemy.
    Rationally, and I insist on being rational, the man is no champion for anything I love and will fight for. He may be punching my enemy, but it is hard to tell one from the other. That could mean that what you think you are seeing is an illusion.
    I wrote months ago that Trump did not feel right…subjective, I know. I had the same intuition about Clinton when I first saw him, though I had read stuff he wrote that sounded reasonable.
    I consider Trump dangerous, and for what I think are excellent reasons.

  19. Trump is one of two things: a vainglorious narcissist who would hump a goat if it would get him network face time, or an out and piece of Astroturf for the Dems. There’s nothing in this man’s career that says ‘presidential’ or even ‘Republican.’

  20. “I have dedicated upwards of 20 hours a day posting here.”
    That may be the saddest thing I’ve ever heard.

  21. Ragspierre says:

    My sock-puppet, GasWhoooot. He thinks he’s a RIOT…

  22. Jimbo says:

    You idiots who support trump are the same who figured the Chillbilly would be a good vice pres under McCain. Just a bunch of conservative bigots and losers. Your whole life is devoted to making fun of all who aren’t like you. Let me tell you, if many of us were like you, this country would be in even worse shape. In 50 years, the illness of Conservatism will be a clinical diagnoses. You will need medicine to be cured of that mental affliction.

  23. Susie Q says:

    Posted by: Jimbo
    What projection. In your comment you did exactly what you accuse conservatives of doing. How progressive.
    We need to look beyond what Trump professes today to what he has done and promoted for most of his life. Hell of a change from then to today. Don’t fall for it. There is more to Trump than meets the eye today. Yeah, he’s saying a lot of what you want to hear, but how honest is it really? Look at the entire man. People don’t change that much over night. There is an agenda here. Look beyond the words to his actions over the years.

  24. Ragspierre says:

    “In 50 years, the illness of Conservatism will be a clinical diagnoses.”
    The Collective tried to do that by perverting psychology over 50 years ago.
    Didn’t work.
    Here’s a better prediction…
    The Collective will be crushed in the U.S. in the next 20 years, or…
    there will be a new nation formed by conservatives.
    We will not be slaves…not in whole or in part.

  25. jakee308 says:

    Hey Rags. About the 20 hours posting and your Alexander Haig-like “I am in charge here. Get used to it.” comment.
    You forgot the /sarc tag right?
    Or maybe not.

  26. jakee308 says:

    You may be right about people not changing too much Susie but we should still give folks who HAVE changed their mind the room to do so.
    Still and all, I don’t trust a one of them but right now Trump is doing something in a manner and means that no one else has attempted.
    I say bravo. Even if it is an act the results may be beneficial irregardless of the reasons for the act.
    Even Rodeo clowns have their uses.

  27. Ragspierre says:

    You, jakee, were reading my sock-puppet.
    That is GasWhoooot, according to what Dan emailed me.
    That ain’t me, or anything like me.
    I bob in and out here during the course of the day, and I have no delusions about my role. I’m no more than you or anybody else here.

  28. Sandy says:

    jakee308- There is no such word “irregardless.” Beyond that, everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon of anyone who has a loud voice, or who makes the slightest statement against Unions, Obama etc. Making some statements does make a good conservative. Look further into their records and positions. Christie is a big big Cap and Trade advocate. Look it up. Look at his signing of the Wind Farm legislation with state taxpayer money going for his pet project. Look it up.

  29. JadedByPolitics says:

    Bottom line for 2012 of which Trump does not fit the bill “Do you love your Country more then yourself?” the candidate with the heart and soul to fit that bill will be the Republican nominee!

  30. jakee308 says:

    Dear Sandy:
    I’ve heard of grammar trolls and I’ve heard of spelling trolls. Now I’ve finally seen a vocabulary troll.
    “When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”
    Since you’re not Merriam Webster, go look up “term of art” in your Funk ‘n Wagnalls. (and while your about it, look up the term in Wiki or other dictionary and you’ll see that there’s been a controversy about it for about a century. Only among pedants and those of a smugly punctilious nature in my opinion.)
    You are of course free to state your opinion about any topic but please keep the English language usage critique to yourself because frankly it makes you look small.
    Thanx so much
    (I know, no such word as thanx. Or is that a spelling error, or grammar error?)
    Care to criticize my punctuation too? Or maybe you would be better off spending your time considering more important things than my vocabulary.