Shooter Adam Lanza’s Mother Nancy Lanza, Doomsday Prepper: Life changed after divorce

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December 16, 2012

Hmm. As pointed out in a comment on this post.  Mail Online link below. It may not be a stretch to blame this one on media, values and the decline of the American family, after all.

 Sources close to the investigation also revealed last night that Nancy had recently stopped hosting monthly get-togethers for neighbors in order to look after her increasingly troubled son.

The 50-year-old is thought to have worked as a supply teacher at the elementary school where the shootings took place.Last night it also emerged Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world.

Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home ‘into a fortress’. She added: ‘Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense. ‘She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire.

She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.’Marsha added that her nephew had been raised by ‘kind, nurturing’ parents’. She said she last seen Adam in June but recalled nothing appeared out of the ordinary.

‘Nancy was a good mother, kind-hearted,’ she added. ‘She wasn’t one to deny reality. She would have sought psychiatric help for her son had she felt he needed it.’

Sourced via Adam Lanza: How classmates remember the genius who turned heartless killer | Mail Online.  Another excerpt below.

The image below is identified as Adam’s Lanza’s step-mother at Fan Daily. Initially, I found it here.

According to the WSJ, she had no comment when contacted:  ”Adam’s father is believed to have remarried last year. A friend’s online holiday card shows a photo of Shelley Cudiner and Peter Lanza at their marriage celebration on New Year’s Day 2011. Ms. Cudiner didn’t answer her office phone on Friday afternoon. Peter Lanza didn’t respond to requests for comment.”

Family friends said Lanza’s problems started to escalate when his parents divorced in 2008 after 18 years together.

His father Peter, a wealthy executive for General Electric, who is believed to earn $1 million a year, moved out of the family home in 2006, citing ‘irreconcilable differences’.

The 52-year-old married librarian Shelley Cudiner last year, and the couple moved 40 miles away to Stamford, Connecticut.

However, he continued to provide well for Nancy and their younger son, giving her the family home as well as nearly $325,000 a year.

One of Lanza’s former classmates spoke of his ‘noticeable decline’ after his parents’ divorce. ‘He was a loner at school and hyper intelligent,’ he said. ‘But in recent years he disappeared off the radar.

‘The word is that he was badly affected when his parents split and that might be what pushed him over the edge. ‘He was always weird but the divorce affected him. He was arguing with his mother. He was a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.’

A relative to the family said that Adam Lanza was ‘obviously not well,’ adding that he often seemed troubled. They described Nancy as being rigid and at times, overbearing.

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Comments:
  1. Saying that she would have sought counseling had she believed she needed it is easy to say. He was of age, without a court order she couldn’t do much of anything.

    We cannot have an honest discussion about these type of shootings without including the laws of involuntary confinement being so rigid that it is next to impossible for the family to do much of anything. A few states are easier than others; such as Arizona and Virginia, but generally speaking she could have known he was in need of medical care, that doesn’t mean she could have done anything about it.

    • hlgaskins says:

      Sorry conservative girl, but as a special Needs child, the mother could’ve v easily got a court order. Special needs children are assessed by Psychologist, Social Workers, Special Educators, families, and doctors where a medical report is required. I know this because I spent 13 years as a special needs teacher who also a member of the campus crisis team.

  2. Maria says:

    And w/o mental health laws being rigid, as you refer to them, in deferrence to people’s individual rights like they are, people will be at risk for being poked, prodded and taken advantage of. Every moody loner doesn’t need to be scrutinized by mental health ‘professionals’. In a FREE society there will sometimes be awful tragedies. Evil exists. Disturbed people exist. That’s where healthy community plays a role. Sadly ours is decaying, hence the danger. In an OPRESSED society the tragedy is every day, loss of freedom. Since everything is decaying and falling apart, all the more fiercely do I oppose more ‘safety’ laws and policies. I will not quietly acquiesce to the surrender of our righs and abilities to keep our own selves safe, to the ever greedy Nanny State who thinks it knows best for all, in everything.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Since the Founding, there has been…and should be…a tension between good public safety policy and civil liberty.

      One extreme or another is unhealthy, as is refusing to rationally ponder problems.

      So much of our current legal state has been the result of Collectivist magical thinking regarding mental illness and effective treatment…and sometimes segregation…of people who pose a threat to society and/or themselves.

      We do no individual person any kindness by pretending away reality. Indeed, of all the victims of this incident, the family of the killer will have the greatest burden of sorrow mixed with stigma of all the victims.

    • Brett says:

      Hear! Hear! There are many who are still willing to fight to the death to defend the FREEDOMS this country was built on.

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  4. Jackie says:

    They say “Doomsday Prepper” like its a disease or a mental illness. Many of us are prepping, not for the end of the world necessarily, but for what may likely come with Obama in office, things happening around the world in other countries that will have an effect on us and for natural disasters … basically hard times in general. I understand there are those who take things to extremes, but don’t believe everything you see on TV. Sounds to me like this was an educated family that believed they had a child with autism. Tragic regardless.

    • Gene K says:

      If you seriously believe it makes sense to stockpile a cache of semiautomatic weapons because any particular person got elected Presdent`of the US, you DO have a disease or mental illness, and should seek psychiatric help.

      • Daybrother says:

        “This administration does not believe individuals have the right to own firearms.”

        ….Eric Holder

      • Ragspierre says:

        If you seriously HATE the English language and the concept of liberty enough to use the term “stockpile” relative to a few inert objects, you should seek somewhere else to live.

        What it makes sense for one to do legally is none of your FLUCKING business, is it?

      • I think it’s more of a reflection of what could happen to the company due to social unrest rather than gun policy. People store weapons as an insurance policy against crazies – and if the economy tanks (which many believe is more likely with Obama) then you can expect more crazies.

        • alexwaso says:

          the problem is not the stockpiling of any goods. its the mindset of most preppers. they think they survive because they are prepared and than have the right to shoot everybody who might knocks on their door.
          people in japan helped each other after the tsunami even after that tragedy nobody took out a gun to shoot around or did the press ignored it?

          • cecollie says:

            “Most preppers” have the mindset that they have the right to shoot everybody who might knock on their door? First, I seriously doubt you know many, if any, preppers at all. If you did, you would realize that is ridiculous. Helping others is a primary goal of most preppers…yes, preparing to care for and protect their families is important to most people, I would think. But they also want to help others be prepared for disasters, job losses, and whatever else may come. MANY MANY MANY are preparing themselves to be a source of help and leadership should a major event happen.

            It’s a great media story to make everyone who prepares into a nut. Rational reporting doesn’t garner ratings.

  5. Carla says:

    It is beginning to sound more like a mother who didn’t quite have her own grasp on reality and isolated herself and her child, to the detriment of so many more. Owning weapons capable of such destruction cannot control or deter any “Doomsday” or “terrorist” action, they only kill more people even more quickly. Such a situation would make people more desperate. I would rather a desperate nation not have weapons that fire 6 bullets a second. I do not think taking away the right to bear arms is the answer, but neither is arming our selves with MORE killing machines and assuming that one day we’re all going to have to be ready to kill each other.

    • Ragspierre says:

      What a sanctimonious, STUPID, ill-informed idiot.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “…weapons that fire 6 bullets a second.”

      I would rather not live in a nation where people are stupid enough to just swallow that crap whole.

      Try going to a gun range, get a model of the weapon you THINK you are talking about, and firing six rounds per second. Just try.

      Hell, sit at your keyboard and TRY to hit the 7 key six times in a second.

      And to think you can vote…

  6. Beth says:

    Stock piling guns in order to prepare for the end of the world is dangerous. Most people think that is paranoid behavior and if she put those views in the head of someone whose brain is fragile with a mental illness she did not do her job to help him.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Riiiight…the scary guns reached out and put the whooo-dooo on the chile.

      What a pack of morons.

    • KSmith says:

      What? Every mother of a very disturbed 20 year old son, who is living at home with no prospective future, with a history of outbursts and uncooperative behavior absolutely needs a large collection of fire arms in the home.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Whether YOU think she does or not is not YOUR flucking business, is it?

        What would be a “large collection of firearms”, and what is your source for the numbers she had?

        Would she be more acceptable to you if she were helpless? (Yes.)

        • Reasonable says:

          When her guns were used by her disturbed son to murder 26 people…it became my flucking business. Any assault rifle is too many , and the desire to own one should be considered a symptom of mental illness, and anyone who believes that the right to an assault rifle is more Important than the lives of those children is despicable, at best.

          • Ragspierre says:

            “…and anyone who believes that the right to an assault rifle is more Important than the lives of those children is…”

            And anyone who would use those kids to demogogue like you just did is a Collectivist monster.

            Nice of you to self-identify.

            It took cops 20 min. from the first call. Even a pussy like you could kill a room of trapped children with a dull knife.

          • Ragspierre says:

            “When her guns were used by her disturbed son to murder 26 people…it became my flucking business.”

            Really? How many children has Pres. Not Optimal killed with drone strikes?

            Put you your posts were you go all self-righteous ape-spit about that.

            What is the numerical threshold for your humanity, monster? Is it 25 dead?

            For me, one person left defenseless against a crazed (not “disturbed”) killer is too many.

            What an idiot.

          • Ragspierre says:

            It would be hard to fashion a more perfect model of the failures of gun control than Newtown, Connecticut. One of the bluest of states, with some of the most stringent gun control laws in the US.

            Tell me which victim any of those laws saved, moron.

            Here’s what is true: the carnage ended when someone with a gun showed up.

          • mmmmmm says:

            Let’s see here… anyone who disagrees with Ragspierre is a moron, a Collectivist monster, an idiot, etc. This is really sad, because the US has a lot of problems (regular mass shootings being just one of them), and it would help if people could try to find some solutions without resorting to hate-speech. Basically, this kind of speech (and the mental attitude behind it) convince me that a ban on assault rifles as well as other gun laws is not a bad idea. But perhaps more important than that is the ability to live in this world without having to have an enemy, someone to hate, someone to fear. That would be the best outcome: if instead of being manipulated by those who promote fear and hatred, we simply refused to buy into it; if instead of building a fortress for the end of civilization, we help build a civilization that doesn’t require a fortress.

          • Carl says:

            I served my county stupid moron to defend those rights the second amendment to be able to keep and bear arms. the first amendment that give idiots like you the right to voice your opinion.
            What have you done to earn those rights you goddam moron

          • cecollie says:

            First of all, there is no such thing as an “assault rifle”. It is a made up term that can be applied to virtually any weapon. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the very day that Newtown occurred, a man in China entered a school with a knife and stabbed 50 children. People looking to commit a violent act will commit a violent act and these gun free zones are a perfect target.

            ALL studies show that areas with the strictest gun control laws have the highest rates of gun violence — ALL studies.

            Tragedies like Newtown have MANY factors which contributed. I think your knee jerk reaction is typical of many people in our country. While you may not have thrown out names like “moron” or “idiot” your comments were just as hateful and bigoted. A more thoughtful look at the situation may not necessarily cause you to change your mind on the issue of gun control, but it may help you to not be quite so judgmental of those who do not agree with you.

  7. backwardsevolution says:

    The only thing propping up this economy is over a trillion dollars/year of government debt in order to pay for food stamps, housing, welfare, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, etc.

    What do you honestly think is going to happen once the government can no longer afford to pay for these things? People, this is a depression, and it’s going to get a heck of a lot worse. Open your eyes. Turn off the TV and get in the real world.

    I don’t blame this mother for trying to protect against POSSIBLE future problems, just being prepared. But the guns should have been locked and hidden away from the son.

    I read that this lady’s background was in finance. Perhaps she knows something you don’t.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “But the guns should have been locked and hidden away from the son.”

      Oh, yeah. THAT would have stopped him.

      Cripes. The kid was…before becoming a monster…pretty smart. Once the notion was formed to kill a lot of people, he would have found a way.

    • KSmith says:

      Yep,
      the zombies are a comin’

  8. Ragspierre says:

    Today might be a very good day to buy stock in American arms makers.

    Jes’ a note to the wise…

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    • backwardsevolution says:

      Yep, the media machine is going to try to portray her as a crazy, which is very unfortunate. Because she is one of the few who realize the economy is being held up by a shoe string and she is duly preparing for the possibility of it really going down, she’s labelled a “crazy prepper”.

      The first people off the Titanic were thought crazy and stupid too! The band played on, didn’t it?

      No, there are no zombies coming, only people who can’t get money for crack, who may lose their welfare, Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare payments.

      Cut off the food stamps (all 47 MILLION of them) for just one week, and then let the games begin.

      I feel sorry for this mother. She had a very difficult/highly intelligent (how many have to deal with that?) son to raise, and she did the best she could. I wouldn’t doubt if her son’s behavior played a large part in the parents’ divorce.

      We need to help people with mental illness. We need to be able to step in on a very short-term basis (when a parent calls for help) and get the person some help. People can’t do this alone.

      • GrandeMe says:

        “I feel sorry for this mother. She had a very difficult/highly intelligent (how many have to deal with that?) son to raise, and she did the best she could. ”

        I have a highly intelligent son who
        suffered from a head injury in a car
        accident. He became “unreliable” as to
        his temper and how he might act out.

        Over the years I worry more and more. I
        have no idea if he might go over the edge, I have no idea what could possibly “make” him “okay”. He has yet to do anything
        violent towards others – or me – but I do
        think that could happen if the
        circumstances were right. It’s terrifying
        on two levels. As a caring and loving
        mother, and as a potential victim.

        • backwardsevolution says:

          GrandMe – I hear you and feel for you! Your son understandably is angry and frustrated. The only thing I can suggest is to try to open up his world and get him involved in trying to “help” others. Whenever our focus is too inward, we get stuck, we don’t grow and we become frustrated. Perhaps he could help others who have gone through a similar experience. If he has a passion, help him cultivate it.

          Lead him with kindness and love. He’s looking for that, a leader.

          Good luck, GrandeMe!

          • GrandeMe says:

            Thank you BE. He went all “progressive”
            liberal a few years back – and became even
            more short tempered and borderline.

            He is not angry or frustrated at all. MOST of the time. There is a physical problem with the “wiring” in his brain.
            It is permanent. I have extended kindness and love to him without interruption, he becomes more dismissive and nasty as the
            years roll by. There is no answer. His
            brain is damaged. There is no fix.

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  12. Ragspierre says:

    In the midst of your histrionics…

    you might want to sip a little rationality…

    http://www.qando.net/wp-content/uploads/league-450×611.jpg

    Awful ol’ America…awash in guns…isn’t even on that list.

    Funny…

    • backwardsevolution says:

      You can skew stats any way you want to.

      “The reported US violent crime rate includes only Aggravated Assault, whereas the Canadian violent crime rate includes all categories of assault, including the much-more-numerous Assault level 1 (i.e., assault not using a weapon and not resulting in serious bodily harm).[33][34] A government study concluded that direct comparison of the 2 countries’ violent crime totals or rates was “inappropriate”.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

      The U.S. is an extremely violent country.

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  24. reason says:

    Why would anybody want to own gun(s)?
    1. For self defence
    2. For recreation.

    #1 is very reasonable. But I think a single non-automatic gun should suffice. What army do you expect will attack you in the middle of the night?

    #2 is I think really unnecessary. Think recreation vs 20 dead kids.

    Lets restrict guns. Thats the only way

    • Ragspierre says:

      You are apparently stupid and irrational enough to ascribe the deed to the instrument. And you are evil enough to suggest you know best for a whole population of people much wiser than you.

      You don’t get that, having formed the intent, the instrument was incidental. He could have killed those people with a straight razor. He had 20 minutes from the time the first call was made to 911 until the first responder showed. He had his victims in a concentration, helpless, and confined.

      He could have killed them by Bluebird (a maker of school buses).

      But you are a true totalitarian Collectivist monster. You have decided what people should and should not have, and you will do your damnedest to force that through BIG GOVERNMENT.

      And your LACK of reason…AND knowledge…is, typically, astounding.

      Gun control does not work. Connecticut has quite strict gun laws. Obviously, they don’t work

      When a home invasion crew hits, you are effectively fighting an armed squad of people, moron.

      But this is moot. The people of America reject your stupidity and your totalitarian urges, and they show it with their dollars. There will not be any legislation that is any more successful here than was Prohibition. And for the same reasons.

      • reason says:

        “When a home invasion crew hits, you are effectively fighting an armed squad”

        How often or when did this happen?
        Can you provide any news articles on such incidents?
        Did this happen to you or someone you know?

        Calling me a moron doesn’t prove your point.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Inform yourself, you moron.

          Or don’t. I don’t care.

          I have a policy against trying to pack information into crap-filled skulls.

          And my points are very well made.

          • reason says:

            There you go. You can’t answer those questions bcos you don’t have answers.

            Can’t have a conversation without using the word “moron” can you? Now, why is that?

            I have no further interest in extending this conversation, this is my last response to you.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Why should I provide you readily available information to fill an already crap-packed skull?

            You should have researched the issue before you asked your stupid questions.

            I have.

            I NEVER intended a conversation with someone as evil as you.

            My purpose was always to show what a totalitarian moron you are, and I did.

            Very nicely, if I say so myself.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Made a quick stop at my favorite firearms shop today just to see what was in stock. The store was fully staffed, with a help wanted sign on the door.

      Every salesman, the owner, his wife and all 4 of his children were waiting on customers. The place was packed. Sure enough, they had a great price on a 9mm that I had been considering acquiring. As has been reported, the Federal Background Check system is severely stressed in the last few days. So, while you’re enjoying your complimentary sandwich and soda you get to do some people watching….. and I swear I can’t make this up….

      A priest and a rabbi came in to the shop to look at CCL Firearms. The owner of the store waited on them personally, determined exactly what their needs and comfort levels were and made a couple of great recommendations. Both made purchases. The owner comped both men free memberships to the local range as well as lessons.

      Before I left, I gave my salesman a list of pistols and rifles that I would be interested in acquiring in the near future – He added it to their very long list of orders.

      http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/a-priest-and-a-rabbi-walked-into-a-gun-shop/

      See, moron? People voting with their feet and their dollars. AND they vote.

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  32. Bill Grig says:

    Nancy Lanza was insane. She had a mentally unstable kid and owned all those sons. She acted like a total idiot. It is unfortunate others needed to pay for her stupidity.

    The scary thing is that there are a lot of Nancy Lanza’s out there….

    Also who the heck needs an assault rifle? For target range shooting or taking out a robber…a normal gun is more than enough. Perhaps if Adam ad to stop to reload, someone could have attacked him or they could have at least gotten away.

  33. Micheal Jorgensen says:

    Fact: an assault rifle is a fully automatic combat weapon carried by members of the military.

    Fact: an assault weapon has no consistent defined term but is basically used to describe any weapon system that “looks” like a military counterpart but is semi-automatic. Basically it is a made up term to scare the public.

    Fact: Any President of the US has a STOCKPILE of assault rifles, rocket launchers, and machine guns to protect the life of him and his family.

    Fact: In the event of any disaster that affects this country, the Ruling Elite and their families has STOCKPILED Food, water, Weapons, and anything else they need to affect their survival.

    Fact: The Current President, Democrat Senate, Democrat Congress, and many of the Democrat party do not want you to have the same ability to protect your own family.

    What would happen if in any given 30 day period there were a Hurricane on the East Coast, Massive Tornadoes in the Midwest, and a 9.0+ Earthquake on the West Coast. Do you honestly believe FEMA could cope with that? Do you honestly believe the rest of the world would come to our aid? Do you honestly believe that the President, House, Senate, your State Governor, State House, etc… would take food out the the mouth of their own families to give you you?

    History shows us that when people are put in desperate situations, they will rise up and take it from anyone they can, even by force if they have to.

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