The GOP may yet make itself irrelevant as regards national politcs

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December 4, 2012

This is as troubling, as it is ignorant. That it comes from someone out of the RNC makes it potentially disastrous for the GOP. And I say that while also being willing to admit that elements of any so-called Tea Party movement, or the various groups who have co-opted that brand, haven’t exactly thrilled me lately, either. I’ll elaborate concisely below.

Where Have You Gone, Bill Buckley?

David Welch is a former research director for the Republican National Committee.

via Where Have You Gone, Bill Buckley? – NYTimes.com.

Fast forward half a century. The modern-day Birchers are the Tea Party. By loudly espousing extreme rhetoric, yet holding untenable beliefs, they have run virtually unchallenged by the Republican leadership, aided by irresponsible radio talk-show hosts and right-wing pundits. While the Tea Party grew, respected moderate voices in the party were further pushed toward extinction. Republicans need a Buckley to bring us back.

The fundamental concept underlying the recent Tea Party movement is not conspiracy; it is liberty. That an apparently mainstream establishment Republican would so idiotically and publicly come out and smear it with the Bircher brand is beyond insulting. It goes beyond being merely stupid; it’s ignorant, outrageous and completely indefensible.

Furthermore, if there is to continue to be a viable GOP at the national level after a period during which everyone may be forced to admit there may indeed be a significant re-alignment going on in American politics, (see  Realigning election(s) for a start,) it is going to have to encapsulate a growing libertarian-ism that may indeed come of age under a legitimate political figure like a Rand Paul and others.

I don’t want un-electable nut job would be conservatives with a total disregard for what it requires in thought, deed and speech to get elected in America today. But I don’t want a Republican Party so lost in itself that it seeks little more than a power-sharing arrangement with Democrats in Washington these days, as it increasingly appears to have no genuine respect for the fundamental concept of American liberty, or freedom from government, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

By equating the Tea Party with the Birchers, in effect acting more like a Bircher, than what should be a serious Republican, this David Welch doesn’t just make himself sound like a dangerous idiot, he hints of a Washington establishment GOP that has utterly abandoned the cause of liberty and may be in the process of making itself irrelevant as regards national politics for some decades to come.

 



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Comments:
  1. Ragspierre says:

    I’ve never heard of Welch.

    Why are you getting your knickers in a knot over what some obscure boob says in the NYT?

    This isn’t even the first time I’ve seen that “Bircher” BS slathered around about the TEA Party, either.

    Deep breathing…slower caffeine uptake…

    • Patriot says:

      “This isn’t even the first time I’ve seen that “Bircher” BS slathered around about the TEA Party, either. ”

      Yeah I wonder why. Maybe the facts that JBS hosts events at CPAC; peddles its crap at Teahadist Nuremberg Rallies; and talks the same way about the same issues as the “Tea Party” have something to do with it.

      The “Tea Party” is just a more marketable name for the John Birch Society. See Atwater, Lee.

      “I’ve never heard of Welch.”

      Who and what you’ve never heard of could fill a book.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Well, I’d demand that you support your lies, but really…

        why?

        You have never been near a TEA Party rally. If you had, you’d know that they are open forums, and all kinds of people…even Collectivist morons like you…can attend.

        Conservatives are not as intolerant as you Collectivists.

        Had you ever heard of Welch before today?

        See, you are just a hate-twisted, moronic, Collectivist troll. Who lies.

        • Patriot says:

          Take it away Rich Lowery: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/195191/cpac-john-birch-society/rich-lowry#

          “Conservatives are not as intolerant as you Collectivists.”

          Totally. No women. No Mexicans. No blacks. No Gays. Other than that – totally open and inclusive, which is why you continue to win the popular vote in national elections.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Wow. You are even MORE stupid today than normal (which is hardly a word I use lightly in conjunction with you).

          The Birchers are no more part of the TEA Party than are the loopy followers of DEEMOCRAT Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, Jr., who I have seen at ever TEA Party event.

          You need to look up a speakers roster for RNC convention, you poor deluded liar. Go to the fine speeches of the excellent leaders who spoke there.

          Golly, what a moron.

          • Patriot says:

            No factual refutation. And suddenly its only the RNC convention that matters. Priceless.

            Typical light-weight stuff from you.

        • Patriot says:

          “You have never been near a TEA Party rally.”

          Of course I have. The stench was quite memorable.

          “Had you ever heard of Welch before today?”

          Of course. It’s called not living in the wingnut bubble.

          The point is, what you don’t know is hardly remarkable.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Put up a dated comment showing you’ve ever attended a TEA Party rally, and that you ever heard of Welch.

            Liar.

            You are TOOOOOO flucking easy.

        • Patriot says:

          Here’s the JBS bragging that it is basically the Tea Party but older

          http://www.jbs.org/about-jbs/frequently-asked-questions

          • Ragspierre says:

            The John Birch Society has been around for far longer, warning and educating regarding many of the same problems that Tea Party activists are now focused on. For over 50 years, since 1958, The John Birch Society has distributed an estimated total of well over 250 million pieces of literature ranging from warning about increased government spending, taxes, centrally planned inflation, the centralization of power in the government, and the gradual appeasement toward Communism to other topics heralding the virtues of sound money, withdrawing from the United Nations, and a foreign policy of non-interventionism.
            ————————————–

            Liar.

  2. JohnInMA says:

    The most effective force against the GOP right now is the Obama administration’s crafty political gamesmanship. They and the Dem party are successfully dividing the party between the Tea Party effort and the ‘elites’, or whatever label you like. Not only is the media voraciously playing this game, but the GOP itself appears to be the willing dupes.

    Shortly, we may see a unified Dem party (by force – kicking out their own moderates) versus two minorities – mainline GOP and Tea Party.

    We will see who wins the battle in the long run.

  3. Patriot says:

    But you are all correct ultimately. You should foist more Teatard candidates on to the national stage. Americans LOVE them.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Well, yes, often they DO love them. More times than not.

      Which you can see if you’d care to do the research.

      Akin, for instance was NOT a TEA Party candidate. Cruz in Texas IS. But look into the whole field.

      So, count on seeing more, and better TEA Party supported candidates for offices at all levels.

      And getting your ass waxed again.

      • Patriot says:

        Haha.

        Sharon Second Amendment Remedies Angle – winner

        Stasi Joe Miller – Winner

        Christine Not a Witch O’Donnell – winner

        Richard Rape is God’s Will Mourdouch – winner

        Todd Shut it Down Akin – winner

        Linda Let’s Wrestle McMahon – two time winner

        “And getting your ass waxed again.”

        Just like in 2012!

      • Patriot says:

        Here’s some Iowa Birchers bragging about Sharron Angle attending one of their events:

        http://iowajohnbirchsociety.com/2011/01/25/sharon-angle-in-johnston-wednesday-night/

      • Ragspierre says:

        You are just going to keep lying, aren’t you?

        Fine. Proceed. I love punking you.

        Want to see a picture of Pres. Not Optimal sharing a stage with New Black Panthers? Birchers are paragons compared to them.

        But the truth is that TEA Party people are nothing remotely like Birchers, who are at least consistent in what they advocate. TEA Party people are all over the political waterfront, but generally are on the conservative end of the spectrum.

        • Patriot says:

          “Fine. Proceed. I love punking you.”

          Haha. Again it’s precious that you get a chubby from “punking” people who laugh at you on the interent.

          “Want to see a picture of Pres. Not Optimal sharing a stage with New Black Panthers? Birchers are paragons compared to them.”

          Haha. So now the Tea Party IS rife with Birchers, but it’s Ok because balckity black black blackity!

          How could anyone ever think that you and the JBC are racists?!

          “ut the truth is that TEA Party people are nothing remotely like Birchers, who are at least consistent in what they advocate. TEA Party people are all over the political waterfront, but generally are on the conservative end of the spectrum.”

          Yes, according to a self-serving liar.

          So funny how you pretend that the JBC isn’t part of the Teabilly branding scheme, yet fall all over yourself to defend the “consistency” of its beliefs.

        • Patriot says:

          “Want to see a picture of Pres. Not Optimal sharing a stage with New Black Panthers?”

          Red herring. I want to see examples of Obama INVITING black panthers (all 3 of them) to share the stage with him. Just one.

          • Ragspierre says:

            You made a serious punctuation error…

            “Red herring: I want to see examples of Obama INVITING black panthers…”

            See? (I know…this is hard…)

  4. Patriot says:

    “Put up a dated comment showing you’ve ever attended a TEA Party rally, and that you ever heard of Welch.”

    Haha, the decent into wingnut self-parody. Put up a link or it didn’t happen!!!!

    Prove that you were at the Teabilly event I was at with a dated link, liar.

  5. Rich Fader says:

    Of course, in the real world, moderate candidates got pasted up and down the ballot, here in California in particular, and most of whatever success the GOP has had in the last few elections is due to, yeah, the Tea Party. And Buckley was primarily about taking on both the Left and the squishes in the GOP Establishment. Going after the JBS and Ayn Rand was, in contrast, just minor housekeeping stuff.

  6. Ragspierre says:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/334821/birch-and-tea-daniel-foster

    Here’s a piece saying at some length what I said above.

    Only a hate-twisted, lying, moronic Collectivist troll would read Welch and say, “Ooooo, yeah…”

    Ergo, Parrotrot’s posts…

    • Patriot says:

      Wow, another deluded article that flatly ignores countless instances pf JBS and the Tealiban linking arms – just like you do.

      But I don’t want to dissuade you from NOT learning your lesson. I’m perfectly happy pointing and laughing at you while you continue to be demonstrably, and hilariously wrong.

      • Ragspierre says:

        See, what is funny is you LIE, point to NRO as somehow supporting your BS…

        UNTIL they explicitly and at length point out the stupid you endorse in the Welch piece.

        There is some common cause a Bircher might find with TEA Party people, just as there is a lot of common cause most Americans find with us.

        Just like you find common cause with facists Obami.

        Understand…????

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