Kenan Adams-Kinard, 2nd Suspect arrested in death of Delbert Belton

August 26, 2013

Spokane Police reportedly found 16-year-old Kenan Adams-Kinard in a basement apartment just after 3 a.m. and have arrested him according to reports.

via Second suspect, Kenan Adams-Kinard, arrested in death of WWII veteran Delbert Belton.

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  1. Ragspierre says:

    AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY — THOUGH EVOLUTION IN ACTION, IF NOTHING ELSE: Point ‘em out, knock ‘em out’: Brutal game ends when assault victim fires his concealed handgun. “Last month, more than 400,000 adults could lawfully carry hidden handguns in Michigan. That’s one in 17 men and women 21 or older, more than since records have been kept. An MLive Media Group investigation found that crime numbers continue to drop across Michigan, even as police ranks decline. Some see the seemingly contradictory trends as proof the proliferation of concealed weapons is deterring lawbreakers.”

    Yep. As predicted. People like NOT being helpless.

    • Jesse says:

      Hilarious. No link to the story, just something that InstaDouche said about the article. Wingnuttery 101 on full display.

      From the actual article:

      “Evidence is largely anecdotal.”

      No shit.

      Ah, using anecdotes of CRIMES to “prove” that LESS CRIME is the product of X.

      Wingnut logic on full display today.

      • Ragspierre says:


        You can find your own links, moron. Or you are too intellectually challeged. Either or…

        Next, ad hominem.

        Then “anecdotal”…when anecdotal evidence proves cases in court every day.

        Finally, it is not a fallacy to argue that LESS CRIME is caused by X. It is an ARGUMENT. You are free to try to rebut it.

        Idiot troll.

        • Jesse says:

          It is a fallacy, dip shit, to use anecdotal CRIMES as evidence of LESS CRIME caused by X – like I said. It’s called the “person who” fallacy.

          And I did find my own links – again as I said.

          So, march your famous strawmen and misdirection somewhere else.

          “Then “anecdotal”…when anecdotal evidence proves cases in court every day.”

          Congratulations, you have evidence based on small, meaningless, cherry picked numbers on your side. All learned trial lawyers try to prove their cases with unreliable anecdotes rather than empirical proof. We know that in your collectivist bubble you PREFER this type of confirmation bias as “proof”. But alas, normal people do not.

          “Idiot troll.”

          Ad hominem.

          • Ragspierre says:

            No, dear.

            Observation. You are both.

            Are case proven by anecdotal evidence every day in court?

            Yes or no?

            Do you have the opportunity to rebut the argument made by the authors?

            Yes or no, please?

            See. You are just an angry, hate-twisted, lying, cowardly Collectivist troll.

            You show it here constantly. Yes. You do.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “For months, the five-term Republican congressman from Texas has been claiming that the Obama administration has been infiltrated by members of the Muslim Brotherhood who are steering U.S. foreign policy and emboldening terrorists.”

      Have you investigated the Gohmert claim?

      I’m not willing to take it on face value, though Old Walleyes had Huma Wiener whispering in her ear at State. Could there be others?

      Why or how is noting that a “conspiracy theory”?

      You DO know about the “conspiracy theory” lies your Collective told during the Cold War, and that they have been proven substantially true by evidence from the former Soviet Union.


      Do you ever think critically.


      Oh, I made myself spew coffee…!!!

  2. Ragspierre says:

    Lord Acton nailed it when he said “Power corrupts …”. We’re currently in the midst of watching exactly that happen to an even greater degree than in the past. If you give government power, it will do everything it can to expand that power – whether legitimately or illegitimately. It is the nature of the beast. And we have to put up a hand to stop it.

    If you’re wondering why the Tea Party is characterized in such nasty ways by the establishment of both parties, it is because it does indeed attempt to put up a hand to stop these sorts of abuses and remove power from the abusers. They threaten the very base of power the political establishment has worked so hard to build over the years.


  3. Jesse says:

    “Are case proven by anecdotal evidence every day in court?
    Yes or no?”


    “Do you have the opportunity to rebut the argument made by the authors?
    Yes or no, please?”

    No. That’s the point of the fallacies you love to trot out – they cannot be proved or disproved, by definition. Which you know – which makes you a constant liar. Or you do not know – which makes you a constant fool. Which is it in your case?

    • Ragspierre says:

      “Are case proven by anecdotal evidence every day in court?
      Yes or no?”

      That is a lie. Try to think of questions that begin with the predicate of…

      “In your experience as an expert [in whatever field]…”

      What a moron.

      “Do you have the opportunity to rebut the argument made by the authors?
      Yes or no, please?”

      Blah, blah.
      Here’s your problem (well, that really runs to your deep, dark pathologies)…

      “arguments” are valid or not.

      They are not “proven” or “disproven”, idiot.

      Any argument is subject to rebuttal.

      You don’t like the argument, rebut it. You poor angry, hate-twisted, lying, demented, cowardly Collectivist troll.

  4. Jesse says:

    “Try to think of questions that begin with the predicate of… “In your experience as an expert [in whatever field]…””

    Expert testimony isn’t anecdote, dip shit, because it isnt submitted to prove the fact of the matter. Experts dont give “I know someone who” testimony. Expert testimony is subject to rigorous Daubert analysis and the rules of civil procedure. You either know this – which makes you a pathetic liar on the internet; or you do not – which makes you a pathetic fool on the internet.

    But you still can’t get past the fact that the very premise of the article is fallacious. Because you don’t understand it.

    “Any argument is subject to rebuttal.”

    Not if the argument is fallacy, Clownselor. That’s the point.

    • Walt says:

      You’re arguing with a night school hack who can only attract mental patients as clients. Good luck!

    • Ragspierre says:

      “Expert testimony is subject to rigorous Daubert analysis and the rules of civil procedure.”

      No, it isn’t you poor angry, ignorant moron.

      A Daubert challenge is not a challenge to expert testimony. It IS a challenge to the validity of the expert and the expertise they purportedly have. IT is made BEFORE any expert testimony is permitted at trial, stupid.

      Look it up, you poor, sick, insecure baby of a Collectivist troll.

      A fallacy is subject to rebuttal. I do it to you all the time.

      You must feel very, very punked.


      • Walt says:

        You’re a very angry old man. Try Metamucil.

        • Ragspierre says:

          “Walt”, do you have anything beside “stupid” and “lies” to contribute?

          Just wondering if this is the height of your ability or what?

          • Walt says:

            Go counsel your mental patient clients!, grandpa. I’m sure they actually take you seriously.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Just as do you, apparently.


            And, to be accurate, my clients are the families or guardians of the mental patients.

            Like your family. See…???

    • Ragspierre says:

      “In your experience as an expert [in whatever field]…””

      That IS anecdotal. It is NOT empirical, is it, stupid?

      Definition of ANECDOTAL
      a : of, relating to, or consisting of anecdotes
      b : anecdotic 2
      : based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers
      : of, relating to, or being the depiction of a scene suggesting a story

      (Note the “usually” WRT “scientific observer”. Than see Goodall, Jane.)

      Heh, and HA!

  5. Ragspierre says:

    IT’S COME TO THIS: Tim Scott, nation’s only black Senator, not invited to speak at March on Washington.

    I have a dream, that one day black Republicans won’t be turned into nonpersons by the establishment.

    Yeh. But that will have to wait until the bigots of the Collective have all died off or been committed.

    No member of their child/minority group is supposed to get uppity and act like they are free.

  6. Ragspierre says:

    His comments to CNN are a continuation of the Maoist media strategy his former flaks Anita Dunn and David Axelrod pursued in the first term, when they bumblingly tried to delegitimize Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. Dunn left the White House after her gushing to a high school audience about Mao as her “favorite political philosopher” was exposed, but not before deploying a few of his tactics, one of which is to control debates by banning opponents from them.

    Obama nurtures the hopes of a dictatorship, not a democracy. That’s what stands behind all his talk about “obstructionism” from the Tea Party and talk radio. Unable to dispel their arguments, he has to resort to the shorthand politics of demagogic name-calling in the hopes of erasing them from the debate.

    Well, yes. The Collective loves free speech from their opponents like a rapist loves the idea of victims with firearms.

  7. Ragspierre says:

    Yep. We alllllLLLLLLlllll deserve a waiver from ObamaDoggle.

    That is kind of what “equal under law” means, innit…???

  8. Ragspierre says:

    Cool. I’m down with that. Make the process just exactly alike, down to the background check and the waiting period.

    There could be a problem with running voter qualifications through a Federal Voting Qualification licensee, however. But I’m open to discussing the idea.

  9. Ragspierre says:

    I caught part of President Obama’s speech, when he quoted King. Obama’s version fell flat because he had no idea how to deliver the lines, and didn’t even seem to understand what King’s words meant. The guy would have to improve to be a mediocre speaker.

    Today’s event was purely partisan, as demonstrated by the fact (reported by Drudge and many others) that the only black Senator, Tim Scott, was not invited. Nor, as far as I can tell, were any other black conservatives or moderates. It was a Dem-fest, through and through.

    But no one cares. The civil rights movement is dead–dead like the anti-slavery movement, because its goals have been accomplished. The current political “movement,” led by con men like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama, has nothing to do with civil rights, and everyone knows it. Which is why today’s event was not just a dud, but a dud that is hardly worth discussing.

    Yep. Read also Paul Mirengoff’s piece, including his reflections on his own work during the Civil Rights movement.

  10. Ragspierre says:

    The only Republican at the MLK event can’t speak.

    Cuffé (@CuffyMeh) August 28, 2013

    Guess who it was. (Hint: he’s the big guy way in the back…)

    • Ragspierre says:

      In June, as the House prepared to vote on an extension of the farm bill—an enormous legislative package that governs everything from crop subsidies to food-stamp policy—conservative lawmakers and outside groups rallied in opposition. Heritage Action, the lobbying arm of the right-wing think tank, called for the bill to be split into two pieces—one dealing specifically with agriculture policy (called a “farm-only bill”) and another legislating the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the food-stamp program known as SNAP.


      For Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, who had publicly endorsed the farm bill, the defeat was a black eye. Within hours, members of his leadership team were conferring with leading RSC members who had opposed the legislation, and soliciting suggestions on how to pass a revised farm bill. Their response: Split the agriculture policy into a separate bill—just as the outside groups have been advocating—and we’ll vote yes.


      But not all conservatives were celebrating. The new farm bill had passed over the objections of Heritage Action, which, to the astonishment of some RSC members, had issued another alert, telling conservatives to vote against the split bill—despite having spent years agitating for exactly that. In its warning, Heritage Action said the revised legislation “would make permanent farm policies—like the sugar program—that harm consumers and taxpayers alike.”

      See, moron…???? I mean, they probably have remedial reading programs on the interwebs. Or is it a dementia problem?

      Not everyone with an R by their name is remotely a Conservative. And ALLLLLLLLlllll lawmakers have a lot of pressure from lobbyiest for farm subsidies if they have large agricultural interests in their states.

      Hope that helps with your latest stupid question.

  11. Ragspierre says:

    NOW THEY TELL US: National Journal: Obama’s Affordable Care Act Looking a Bit Unaffordable: Independent National Journal analysis finds premiums higher under Obamacare as employers weigh dropping coverage. “Republicans have long blamed President Obama’s signature health care initiative for increasing insurance costs, dubbing it the ‘Unaffordable Care Act.’ Turns out, they might be right.”

    Yuh, wull duh…

  12. Ragspierre says:

    Major Hasan couldn’t have been more straightforward about who and what he was. An army psychiatrist, he put “SoA” – ie, “Soldier of Allah” – on his business card. At the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences, he was reprimanded for trying to persuade patients to convert to Islam, and fellow pupils objected to his constant “anti-American propaganda”. But, as the Associated Press reported, “a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal written complaint.”

    This is your brain on political correctness.

    As the writer Barry Rubin pointed out, Major Hasan was the first mass murderer in US history to give a PowerPoint presentation outlining the rationale for the crime he was about to commit. And he gave it to a roomful of fellow army psychiatrists and doctors – some of whom glanced queasily at their colleagues, but none of whom actually spoke up. And, when the question of whether then Captain Hasan was, in fact, “psychotic”, the policy committee at Walter Reed Army Medical Center worried “how would it look if we kick out one of the few Muslim residents”.

    This is your brain on political correctness.

    So instead he got promoted to major and shipped to Fort Hood. And barely had he got to Texas when he started making idle chit-chat praising the jihadist murderer of two soldiers outside a recruitment centre in Little Rock. “This is what Muslims should do, stand up to the aggressors,” Major Hasan told his superior officer, Colonel Terry Lee. “People should strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square.”

    In less enlightened times, Colonel Lee would have concluded that, being in favor of the murder of his comrades, Major Hasan was objectively on the side of the enemy. But instead he merely cautioned the major against saying things that might give people the wrong impression. Which is to say, the right impression.

    This is your brain on political correctness.
    —Mark Steyn

    The Collective is enabling terrorists all over the world.

    Just like they enabled Soviet expanionism all over the world.

  13. Ragspierre says:

    Oh, I’m bad….

    I’m nation-wide….

    Yes, I’m bad, bad, bad…

    I’m nation-wide.

    Just like Pres. Snoop-dog.

  14. Ragspierre says:

    Wow. Talk about your Collectivist newspeak…

    >> If the White House takes international law seriously — as the State Department does — it cannot try to have it both ways. It must either argue that an “illegal but legitimate” intervention is better than doing nothing, or assert that international law has changed — strategies that I call “constructive noncompliance.” In the case of Syria, I vote for the latter.

    Since Russia and China won’t help, Mr. Obama and allied leaders should declare that international law has evolved and that they don’t need Security Council approval to intervene in Syria.<<

    From the NYT.

    Of course.

  15. Ragspierre says:

    Children on Chicago’s South Side are escorted to school through a phalanx of “security workers in neon vests, police officers on patrol, an idling city fire truck and, briefly, a police helicopter hovering above.” Similar school escort programs exist in other cities.

    It’s no longer vicious white racists from whom black children need protection, thanks to the courageous battles of the civil-rights movement, but the mindless violence of gangs who share those children’s skin color. That criminal predation, with its debilitating effects on neighborhood vitality, along with family breakdown, lie behind lingering racial inequality today — not, as President Obama suggested in his Occupy Wall Street March on Washington anniversary speech, the greediness of employers who refuse to pay a “fair wage,” or the unequal application of “the scales of justice . . . in the criminal justice system” (the latter charge an outrageously irresponsible calumny coming from the chief executive).

    Heather MacDonald knows her stuff, too.

    There is so much Obama made worse.

    So much…

  16. Ragspierre says:

    Now, sometimes you just cannot beat a great political cartoon.

    Opps… I just described our State Dept…!!!

  17. Ragspierre says:

    Labor force participation rate at a 34 year low.

    Obama made it worse.

  18. Ragspierre says:

    THEY TOLD ME IF I VOTED FOR MITT ROMNEY, WE’D HAVE A PRESIDENT BRIT-PUNDITS WOULD MOCK FOR CLUMSY INEPTITUDE. AND THEY WERE RIGHT! Barack Obama is proving an embarrassing amateur on the world stage compared to George W. Bush. “As it stands, President Obama’s proposed military coalition on Syria has a grand total of two members – the US and France. And the French, as we know from Iraq, simply can’t be relied on, and have very limited military capability. It is a truly embarrassing state of affairs when Paris, at best a fair weather friend, is your only partner. . . . In marked contrast to Obama, President Bush invested a great deal of time and effort in cultivating ties with key US allies, especially Britain.”

    Yep. Obama’s anti-colonial propaganda background and Collectivist dogma put him in this position.

    Funny that Collectivists cannot see that harboring hatred for the Western nations and values that make this world a livable place will always come back to bit them.

  19. Ragspierre says:

    No priority is greater than supplanting the entrenched Beltway ruling class. As designed, the Republic’s central government featured citizen legislators, representatives of the people who actually were, well, representative of the people. More out of patriotic duty than financial remuneration, they met infrequently in the nation’s capital—just a few months out of the year—reflective of the fact that the national government’s responsibilities, though vital, were few and critically reliant on the indulgence of state governments. Over time, as the progressive administrative state grew, particularly under the Wilson and FDR administrations, Washington incrementally devoured state sovereignty. With this dramatic shift in the balance of power, a governing elite emerged—a permanent Beltway ruling class of career politicians whose main interest was in increasing federal power. They now inhabit Congress as if they were life peers or revolve between the bureaucracy and its back-scratching cottage industry of lobbyists, consultants, and celebrity media commentators.” –Andrew C. McCarthy

    Yeeeeup. Read the whole thing. And it is time we took it back to where it should be.

    Limited government. No elitist ruling class. Empowered states.

  20. Ragspierre says:

    Private sector unions have fallen to an all time low participation rate in the US workforce. Unionized workers now account for only 11.3 percent of the US workforce.

    Happy Labor Day!

    • Walt says:

      A lazy old goat like yourself isn’t qualified to talk about ‘labor’. Stick to topics you are expert in, like what shoes are most comfortable and the importance of fiber.

      • Ragspierre says:

        I’m MORE qualified than you to address “labor”, having been on both union and non-union jobs, and holding an “O” card in the Brotherhood of Operating Engineers. (Do you even know what any of that means, punk-ass bitch?)


  21. Ragspierre says:

    Even the Washington Post is condemning the Justice Department’s attack on Louisiana’s school-voucher program. The Post’s lead editorial today calls the attack “appalling,” and concludes the following: ”Louisiana parents are clamoring for the choice afforded by this program; the state is insisting on accountability; poor students are benefiting. The federal government should get out of the way.”

  22. Ragspierre says:

    “So far as we know, most everyone in the government was expecting the bombing would start on Saturday afternoon, Washington DC time. Government officials, above all those with expertise in military operations, were told to cancel their Labor Day vacations and show up for overtime work. No golf for them! Then President Obama–in the face of most all the advice from his ‘national security team’ (I even heard a national radio network broadcaster call it ‘the war cabinet’)–changed his mind. Suddenly. Unexpectedly. Surprisingly. How? Why? . . . We don’t have an answer, which suggests to me that we’re missing some key element in the story.”

    I guess the smartest man in any empty room is giving the Syrians time to disperse their troop formations and ordinance, get out the bodies of the kiddies from cold storage, and limber up the cameras for the propaganda bonanza about to fall from the sky.

  23. Ragspierre says:

    “President Obama will travel to Los Angeles on Sept. 9 to recognize organized labor.

    Obama will appear at the AFL-CIO convention, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told reporters at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast Thursday.

    That night the president will also appear at a $32,400 per plate Hollywood fundraiser held at the home of Marta Kauffman, the co-creator of the sitcom “Friends,” according to an invitation obtained by the Sunlight Foundation.”

    “The White House is billing the appearance at the labor convention as the latest in the president’s summer-long middle class economic tour, according to the Los Angeles Times. Last week, the president visited schools across New York and Pennsylvania to tout his proposal to rank universities based on value, while previous stops have seen Obama call for new infrastructure improvements and reforming the corporate tax code.”

    So, it is all just another taxpayer-funded campaign junket for the Collective.

    Pres. Snoop-Dog, friend of the working man…

    Moooochelle’s ample ass.

  24. Ragspierre says:

    Nearly 2/3 of all voters say that race relations have improved over the last 50 years.

    But just one-in-10 say that race relations have improved since President Obama took office in 2008. Blacks are even less convinced than whites and other minority voters that things have gotten better.

    Like I’ve said for the longest…

    Obama made is worse. He really did.

  25. Ragspierre says:

    After an assassin’s bullet cut King down in Memphis in 1968, he died in Abernathy’s arms.

    But Abernathy stirred the ire of many civil rights leaders because of what they saw as his shaky stewardship of SCLC after King’s death. He also came under heavy criticism for recounting in his autobiography King’s alleged infidelities.

    “I watched a lot of the coverage, and they never even called his name, and that is so unfair for somebody who gave so much,” said Abernathy’s widow, who marched many times with King and her husband and sat on the second row of the speaker’s platform during the original March on Washington. “There is not a door where civil rights is concerned that has been opened in this country that Ralph Abernathy was not part of.”

    It’s pretty sad that you can start race riots and foment the Tawana Brawley hoax and be the main attraction at the King anniversary festivities. But the widow of one of King’s closest associates sat at home and watched on TV as no one breathed a word about her husband.

    Read the whole thing.

    The Collective has this great big air brush. It survives by lying.

  26. Jesse says:

    “And “pwoof” of that [verifiably accurate statement]”.

    History, Clownselor:

    ”Each individual of the society has a right to be protected by it in the enjoyment of his life, liberty, and property…He is obliged, consequently, to contribute his share to the expense of this protection; and to give his personal service, or an equivalent, when necessary.” — John Adams

    “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “A government ought to contain in itself every power requisite to the full accomplishment of the objects committed to its care, and to the complete execution of the trusts for which it is responsible.” –Alexander Hamilton

    ”Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship…I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between church and State.” — Thomas Jefferson

    ”Rights are not gifts from one man to another, nor from one class of men to another. It is impossible to discover any origin of rights otherwise than in the origin of man; it consequently follows that rights appertain to man in right of his existence, and must therefore be equal to every man.” — Thomas Paine

    ”The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride legitimately, by the grace of God.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “As riches increase and accumulate in few hands, as luxury prevails in society, virtue will be in a greater degree considered as only a graceful appendage of wealth, and the tendency of things will be to depart from the republican standard.” — Alexander Hamilton

    “My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.” — John Adams

    ”Equal laws protecting equal rights — the best guarantee of loyalty and love of country.” –James Madison

    “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” –John Adams

    “…the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “Born in other countries, yet believing you could be happy in this, our laws acknowledge, as they should do, your right to join us in society, conforming, as I doubt not you will do, to our established rules.” –Thomas Jefferson

    “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men…” –John Adams

    “He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.” –Thomas Paine

    “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” –James Madison

    “Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever persuasion, religious or political.” — Thomas Jefferson

    • Ragspierre says:

      What’s funny is you don’t get how you just screwed yourself to the wall.

      • Jesse says:

        What’s ACTUALLY funny is that this is the first time you’ve been made aware of any of these quotes.

        • Ragspierre says:

          But that is a lie, and you are a liar.


          …some more…


          You moron.

          • Jesse says:

            Come now, Clownselor. We all know you will provide no substantive rebuttal. At best, next Tuesday, you’ll post some Michelle Malkin drivel, shit your pants, declare victory, and kick and scream when it’s pointed out that you are full of shit.

            We’ve seen this play out ….

          • Jesse says:

            Hilarious. All you can come up with is repeating some iteration of “lie”, and “moron”. We just have to take you at your word, huh, Clownselor?

          • Ragspierre says:

            But the rebuttal was substantive.

            You lie. It is who you are.

            You know it. We all know it.

            We all know that you imply some of those quotes support your Collectivist vision. They do not.

            We all see that the Framers would not have “smothered me in my crib”.

            Infanticide is a value you love. Not the Framers.


    • Jesse says:

      Also too, by its plain terms, the Constitution is a collectivist document. Tealiban like the Clownselor have either not read the document, or don’t understand its terms.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Again, a lie. The Constitution…and the Revolution…are revolutionary.

        Your Collective is reactionary.


        • Jesse says:

          Bwooook LIAR; Bwoooook MORON.

          We just have to take your preening word for it, right Clownselor?

          • Ragspierre says:

            Anyone who can read knows the truth.

            Even you know you are a liar, coward, and Collectivist tool.

            And you choose to be every day.

        • Jesse says:

          “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;”

          What does “general welfare” mean, Clownselor? Did you know that the term is in the constitution you claim to love? Do you know where?

          • Ragspierre says:

            It does not mean redistribution. It does not mean trying to do everything that enters your weak lil’ “mind” that would be “nice” to do for people.

            I know you don’t know what it means, but that does not mean it has no meaning.

            It was understood for many decades to mean providing the physical, regulatory (i.e., standard weights and measures), and legal infrastructure needed to facilitate interaction and commerce between the states, which had been lacking under the Articles of Confederation.

            Look it up, stupid. It is found in two places in the Constitution.

  27. Jesse says:

    “But the rebuttal was substantive.
    You lie. It is who you are.
    You know it. We all know it.”

    No, that’s more of your feeble ad hominem, assuming what you seek to prove, argumentum ad populum, and appeal to authority – FALLACIES.

    “We all know that you imply some of those quotes support your Collectivist vision. They do not.”

    More argumentum ad populum, and appeal to authority. Again, you cannot say HOW or WHY the quotes do not support my postion …. And again, we just have to take your preening word for it.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “Born in other countries, yet believing you could be happy in this, our laws acknowledge, as they should do, your right to join us in society, conforming, as I doubt not you will do, to our established rules.” –Thomas Jefferson

      Exactly the Conservative position on immigration.

      Exactly the OPPOSITE position of the Collective on allowing invaders who came here in violation of our laws to remain or…worse…become “citizens”.

      See, moron…???

      • Jesse says:

        Ah, here’s the point where you do your cherry picking fallacy.

        And of course, you are lying about what the Tealiban want, because Jefferson’s position is precisely what GWB and president Obama propose. And of course, you can point to no material supporting what the Tealiban are supposedly “for”. Let’s ask prominent Borg Collectivist Steve King about it. And Tealiban candidate for president in 2012 was for “self-deportation”. How does that work with what Jefferson said?

  28. Jesse says:

    “It does not mean redistribution. It does not mean trying to do everything that enters your weak lil’ “mind” that would be “nice” to do for people.”

    Ah, your straw man / red herring fallacy finally shows up.

    “It was understood for many decades to mean providing the physical, regulatory (i.e., standard weights and measures), and legal infrastructure needed to facilitate interaction and commerce between the states, which had been lacking under the Articles of Confederation.”

    Yes, we ARE just going to have to take your word for it ….

    “Look it up, stupid. It is found in two places in the Constitution.”

    Ad hominem again. And the do-my-work-for me fallacy, a variation of your usual appeal to authority.

    • Ragspierre says:

      You have no idea what your are even talking about.

      There is no “straw man” liar.

      • Jesse says:

        Other than:

        “It does not mean redistribution. It does not mean trying to do everything that enters your weak lil’ “mind” that would be “nice” to do for people.”

        The above is your made up position to argue against. it is classic straw man argument.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Very well. YOU define what was meant by it, and how you use it now.

          I assert the depiction I gave is how your Collective uses it, and it is accurate.

    • Ragspierre says:

      And DO look it up, stupid.

      I NEVER ask you or anyone to take my word for much of anything other than the personal.

      I ALWAYS DEMAND you look stuff up, refusing to “pwoove” it to you, or spoon-feed your lazy ass.

      • Jesse says:

        “I ALWAYS DEMAND you look stuff up, refusing to “pwoove” it to you, or spoon-feed your lazy ass.”

        Yes, you do demand that everyone else does your work for you. We know this. Because you are incapable of supporting your “positions”. As the 4 people who read this shitty blog all know.

        • Ragspierre says:

          No, no, liar. I refuse to do YOUR homework.

          I will not try to pack good information into your crap-packed and jealously guarded skull.

          I like your Collective being the ignorant, lying, moronic affront to good sense you are.

          IF you want to change that, do it.

  29. Jesse says:

    “Anyone who can read knows the truth.
    Even you know you are a liar, coward, and Collectivist tool.
    And you choose to be every day.”

    Ah, this becoming your favorite fallacy – the Argumentum ad populum fallacy. You use this fallacy so often because you are not skilled in rebutting factual evidence.

    • Ragspierre says:

      You don’t even know what a “fallacy” is.

      (Just FYI, it is not what you suck. That is a PHALLIS.)

      The statement is a matter of observed fact.

      You lie constantly, including about who you are.

      • Jesse says:

        Funny. I named several fallacies. And your SOLE response is to engage in more fallacies.

        You lash out because you are unskilled.

        • Ragspierre says:

          You stated several lies, throwing off inapposite name-calling regarding fallacies that anyone who can read (and, yes, they will have to look it up) can ascertain you know nothing about.

          You are too funny…!!!

  30. Jesse says:

    “Afraid to let information into that crap-packed skull you maintain so jealously.”

    Which is hilarious. Because I JUST asked you what information in the speech you were relying on. And constantly ask you for information supporting whatever position you take.

    • Ragspierre says:

      You accuse TEA Party people of holding positions they do not.

      Whittle articulates positions many of us hold very well. (The TEA Party is not homogenous, moron)

      Watch it or don’t. I like you stupid.

      • Jesse says:

        You mean, a self-serving diatribe by an elitist in Beverly HIlls is supposed to swing people over hundreds of other instances of what prominent Tea Baggers and their followers say and do?

        • Ragspierre says:

          How many lies in that sentence can you count, you piece of shit?

          Admit it. You can’t listen. It would be like pouring Drano down your gullet.

  31. Jesse says:

    “They have INVADED the United States ILLEGALLY.
    That is an apt term for who they are, and what they have done.”

    Really? So, it’s your position that undocumented immigrants – what they are ACTUALLY called at law, are part of a military offensive by a geopolitical entity into another, by coordination, with the goal of conquering, liberating, controlling, partitioning, etc.?

    • Ragspierre says:

      No, liar.

      Just as terrorists can wage war on our nation without being “part of a military offensive by a geopolitical entity into another, by coordination, with the goal of conquering, liberating, controlling, partitioning, etc”.

      You really are too stupid to live.

  32. Jesse says:

    “No. Your ability to research and read, which we have established leaves you in the muck.”

    Which, again, is funny, because you regularly ignore posted and linked research; and refuse to ever provide any factually verifiable evidence of your own. Because you are unskilled. As the 4 people who read this shitty blog can see for themselves.

    • Ragspierre says:

      That is another demonstrable and oft demonstrated lie.

      I OFTEN punk you by reading what you post, and showing how you have misread it, or how it is a farcical lie from your moonbatter that you dutifully republish here.

      I LOVE doing that to you, btw…!!!

      • Jesse says:

        No. You often SAY / ASSERT such things. But never do you SHOW. You don’t know the difference. We go over this every time.

  33. Jesse says:

    “Now you’re going to pretend you know a “normal” person.”

    Yes, they are the millions of Americans who are repulsed by your positions, and demonstrate the same on election day, and by convincing many senate GOPers to REJECT your approach.

  34. Jesse says:

    “Equal treatment under law is a Conservative value.”

    Clearly. Which is why you favor unequal treatment of persons you harbor an irrational animus against.

    • Ragspierre says:

      That is another lie.

      I do hold a perfectly rational animus against liars, and Collectivists bung-suckers like you. I HATE your totalitarian urges, and your love of compulsion.

      (But I repeat myself.)

      • Jesse says:

        Ah, misdirection. Well done, Clownselor.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Wow. You are so clearly confused…

          • Jesse says:

            No. It’s quite clear that instead of addressing your animus toward gay people, you misdirected by engaged in ad hominem toward me. This is routine and predictable behavior for you.

          • Ragspierre says:

            I don’t care about gay people, one way or the other.

            A person’s sexual behavior…outside of pedophilia or bestiality or force…is of no consequence to me.

            Just like their skin color or ethnicity or nation of origin.

            You are a liar. And I hate liars.

            Clear now…???

  35. Jesse says:

    “I don’t care about gay people, one way or the other.”

    Sure. Which is why you don’t want them to enjoy the same treatment at law as you – for no reason other than personal animus. Which you continually pretend is not at issue.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “Which is why you don’t want them to enjoy the same treatment at law as you…”

      No. That is ANOTHER of your various lies.

      As we’ve established. I support civil unions. And I’ve provided legally for gay couples to enjoy all LEGAL benefits married couples enjoy.

      My position is that marriage…like all those other words you don’t comprehend…has a specific meaning.

      Same position as Obama circa 2008, and Elton John and a very large number of other gay people hold.

      • Jesse says:

        “My position is that marriage…like all those other words you don’t comprehend…has a specific meaning.”

        Sure. And we all know that the legal definitions of words are never modified.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Marriage is a concept that is hardly limited to “legal”, stupid.

          You could redefine any number of things…and your Collective HAS…and it does not make them what you “say”.

          • Jesse says:

            “Marriage is a concept that is hardly limited to “legal”, stupid.”

            The “legal” is the only meaningful reason why the definition matters. “Conceptually,” why do you give a shit?

          • Ragspierre says:

            You are full of shit.

            “Legally” IF that is what you were really after, can be had a variety of ways.

            BUT you are lying again.

  36. Ragspierre says:

    Yeh, well, Kerry has a history of lying…to Congress and a lot of other entities and people.

    The guy is not even a real Irishman. How pathetic is that…

  37. Ragspierre says:

    Chris Matthews of MSNBC, who served on Capitol Hill for years as a top Democratic aide, put the party’s dilemma in stark terms on Wednesday: “I think the Democrats are going to be forced to sacrifice men and women who really, really don’t want to vote for this. They’re going to have to vote for it to save the president’s hide. That’s a bad position to put your party in.”

    One reason it’s especially awkward is that on the substance, the White House isn’t doing well.

    “That red line…??? I didn’t build that! Somebody else built that!”

    What a pack of liars we have in the executive branch. It is worse than Clinton.

    Obama made it worse.

  38. Ragspierre says:

    “I have a well-deserved reputation for taking very seriously and soberly the idea of military engagement.”
    —Pres. Red Line

    This pitiful, broken child is such a narcissist.

    • Jesse 2 says:

      All of your comments on this matter need to be highlighted for posterity. Your demonstrable foolishness cannot be overstated.

  39. Ragspierre says:

    Samantha Power, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, hoped that a team of UN investigators — many of whom, presumably, have a longstanding relationship with Iranian leaders — could write a report that would convince Iran to abandon its ally at the behest of the United States.

    “We worked with the UN to create a group of inspectors and then worked for more than six months to get them access to the country on the logic that perhaps the presence of an investigative team in the country might deter future attacks,” Power said at the Center for American Progress as she made the case for intervening in Syria.

    “Or, if not, at a minimum, we thought perhaps a shared evidentiary base could convince Russia or Iran — itself a victim of Saddam Hussein’s monstrous chemical weapons attacks in 1987-1988 — to cast loose a regime that was gassing it’s people,” she said.

    That level of voluntary STUPID will get a lot of people killed.

    Collectivists live in a cloud of delusion. That is very, very dangerous.

  40. Ragspierre says:

    Barack Obama fancies himself some kind of a deliverer and he has indeed delivered us, into a parallel universe. In this parallel universe the prince of peace serves as the president of the United States and argues in favor of a simulacrum of war. He disparages the United Nations as a fount of meaningless piffle. Circumventing the United Nations can be a matter of high principle because the structure of the United Nations produces “paralysis.” What is “required” will not be “produced through Security Council action.” This prince of peace is also a situational ethical kind of guy.
    [Innit funny how the Collectivists SAY things and then DO the opposite?]

    “The national security of the United States, requires that when there’s a breech this brazen of a norm this important, and the international community is paralyzed and frozen and doesn’t act, then that norm begins to unravel. And if that norm unravels, then other norms and prohibitions start unraveling. And that makes for a more dangerous world. And that, then, requires even more difficult choices and more difficult responses in the future.” It probably reads better in the original Greek.

    That Ka-wazy Cowboy Booooooooooooooooosh had UN resolution after UN resolution all lined up to justify our ouster of Saddem. There were quite a few “unraveling norms” cited by Congress when it authorized force in Iraq.

    He had actual allies…and the America people…behind him, too.

    I guess if there is one good thing that comes of this comedy of a foreign policy, it is that the UN is isolated as the less-than-useless cesspool many of us have been saying for years it is. And Obama has finally had to say it out loud.

  41. Ragspierre says:

    Wow, Pres. Red Line is using war porn on Capital Hill now.

    Too funny.

  42. Ragspierre says:

    [F]or this administration to redeem its credibility now would require a change of direction and method so radical it would be the national equivalent of the comeback of Lazarus: a miraculous revolution in the condition of an individual (President Obama), and a comparable metamorphosis (or a comprehensive replacement) of the astonishingly implausible claque around him.

    Until recently, it would have been unimaginable to conceive of John Kerry as the strongman of the National Security Council. This is the man who attended political catechism classes from the North Vietnamese to memorize and repeat their accusations against his country of war crimes in Indochina, and, inter alia, ran for president in 2004 asserting that while he had voted to invade Iraq in 2003, he was not implicated in that decision because he did not vote to fund the invasion once underway. (Perhaps Thomas E. Dewey would have been an upset presidential winner in 1944 if he had proclaimed his support for the D-Day landings but advocated an immediate cut-off of funds for General Eisenhower’s armies of liberation.)

    We have certainly sunk low.

    Obama made it much, much worse.

  43. Ragspierre says:

    The Obama administration secretly won permission from a surveillance court in 2011 to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases, according to interviews with government officials and recently declassified material.

    In addition, the court extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years — and more under special circumstances, according to the documents, which include a recently released 2011 opinion by U.S. District Judge John D. Bates, then chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

    What had not been previously acknowledged is that the court in 2008 imposed an explicit ban — at the government’s request — on those kinds of searches, that officials in 2011 got the court to lift the bar and that the search authority has been used.

    Yes. Of course he lied. He does it all the time.

  44. Ragspierre says:

    Roger gets a slap in the face, and realizes a few things.

  45. Ragspierre says:

    That ol’ fascist urge is never far from the Collectivist veneer of “peace”.

  46. Ragspierre says:

    “Remember when candidate Barack Obama promised his acolytes that they were only “five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America”? That was back in October 2008, when the hectic flush of Obamamania was at its peak. To be fair, it’s took a bit longer than five days, but here we are, five years into the most destructive presidency in the country’s history and we can see that fundamental transformation at work just about everywhere.”

    Fundamentally making it worse.

  47. Ragspierre says:

    At the same time the IRS harassed Republican nonprofit groups during the 2012 political campaign, it selectively advised black churches and other Democrat nonprofits on how far they can go in campaigning for President Obama and other Democrats.

    This raw exercise in political favoritism has not been reported in the context of the still-smoldering IRS scandal, in which the agency in 2012 audited big GOP donors and blocked Tea Party groups trying to obtain tax-exempt status as part of what House investigators suspect was an effort to re-elect the president.

    But that same year, top officials with both the IRS and Justice Department — including the IRS commissioner and attorney general — met in Washington with several dozen prominent black church ministers representing millions of voters to brief them on how to get their flocks out to vote without breaking federal tax laws.

    The “summit” on energizing the black vote in houses of worship was hosted by the Democrat-controlled Congressional Black Caucus inside the U.S. Capitol on May 30, 2012.

  48. Ragspierre says:

    “We will be able to hold Bashar al-Assad accountable without engaging in troops on the ground or any other prolonged kind of effort in a very limited, very targeted, short-term effort that degrades his capacity to deliver chemical weapons without assuming responsibility for Syria’s civil war. That is exactly what we are talking about doing – unbelievably small, limited kind of effort.”

    Yeeeup. I find that statement totally believable. Assad will find it “unbelievably small”…as in ineffective.

  49. Jesse says:

    That is a totally bogus moonbattery Lie-0-tron blog.
    Did you notice that…???
    CAN you read?”

    I see. Because the outlet that reports the fact is one that hurts your delicate feelings, the facts reported are not, in fact, FACTS.

    In other words, Paul Ryan, the Tea Party candidate for president in 2012 did not say this:

    “Well, we agree with the same red line, actually, they do on chemical weapons, but not putting American troops in, other than to secure those chemical weapons. They’re right about that.”

    …. Because the preening Clownselor tells us so.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Well. We demonstrate YET AGAIN that, NO, you cannot read.

      And NO, you will not place things in context when you have a chance to lie about them.

      Watch the C-SPAN video, moron.

      Which of the two positions seems now…in light of the FACT that Russia has won Assad status as a legitimate player in who does what, when, how, and IF…to have been more sound?

  50. Jesse says:

    “Put up a comment by anyone you think I have common ground with to support your totally stupid lie.”

    This has already been done, Clownselor, as you know. But:

    And the idea of YOU demanding links is very cute. You’re a funny little guy.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “How much time to you spend fantasizing about your new daddy, Pottie-Poot? Do you long for his muscles, like many of your fellow collectivists?”

      THAT was your stupid, lying assertion, or set thereof, you pathetic puke.

      Now, how does you citation support your bullshit, except in the crap-filled, hate-twisted skull you maintain?


      • Jesse says:

        Try reading about your fellow collectivist describing his lust for Pootie-Poot’s muscles, professor. The question was, do you share his fantasies?

        The fact that you are REALLY making a big deal of this, probably tells us everything we need to know. It’s ok – just admit who you are and move on with your life. The bitter clinging WILL ease. It WILL get better.

        • Ragspierre says:




          • Jesse says:

            So you’re saying that you DO NOT identify with your fellow Borg Collectivist, Dana Rohrabacher’s, expressly-stated lust for Pootie-Poot’s muscles?

            Your continued harping on Pootie-Poot’s muscles suggests otherwise. If you don’t accept yourself, Clownselor, you’ll never be happy. Reject the bitter-clinging. It WILL get better.

          • Ragspierre says:




  51. Jesse says:

    Bwooook! LIAR!! JD/MBA!! BWooook!

    I love markets!


    • Ragspierre says:




      • Jesse says:

        It’s still comical that you will react to, literally, ANYTHING posted on someone else’s shitty blog.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Even THAT is a lie.

          But why break form????

          • Jesse says:

            Haha. To demonstrate how you DON’T in fact react to literally everything posted on someone else’s shitty blog, you react to something on someone else’s s shitty blog, pointing out how you react to literally everything on someone else’s shitty blog.

            You just cannot help yourself.

            As countless observers have observed, you’re a strange little guy.

  52. Ragspierre says:

    FIRST LOIS LERNER OUT, NOW THIS: Exclusive–IRS Offers True The Vote Tax Exempt Status, Files to Dismiss Lawsuit. Reportedly, they were worried about discovery. I can imagine.

    Yep. Discovery is a bitch.

    • Jesse says:

      “Yep. Discovery is a bitch.”

      Haha, as if you know.

      Oh, unless you’re referring to your inner discovery. It might be painful, Clownselor, but it WILL get better for you.

  53. Ragspierre says:

    Sure. All Collectivists can rationalize whatever they want to.

    Usually, it all comes down to the “greater good”.

  54. Ragspierre says:

    The massacre in Kenya is but the latest reminder that bad guys have been a part of this world since it began. The only question is: are you ready to meet them? Because they are anxious — and ready — to meet you.

    Yes. Yes, they ARE eager to meet you.

    And it will help them a lot if you continue to delude yourself about who they are, and what they want.

  55. Ragspierre says:

    A seventh-grade student in Virginia Beach, Va., has been suspended from school for playing with an airsoft gun with a friend in his front yard while waiting for the school bus.

    WAVY-TV reports that 13-year-old Khalid Caraballo will find out soon if he will be expelled for “possession, handling and use of a firearm” because the guns were fired at two others playing in Caraballo’s yard.

    A neighbor saw Khalid shooting the airsoft gun in his yard and called 911, telling the dispatcher, “He is pointing the gun, and it looks like there’s a target in a tree in his front yard,” the station reported.

    Khalid claims he never took the toy gun to the designated bus stop or Larkspur Middle School, according to the report. Two other students who fired guns were also suspended.

    Well, he had two strikes against him…

    1. He is a boy

    2. He was not acting sufficiently helpless.

  56. Jesse says:

    See, Clownselor? You can let go of the bitter-clinging. It WILL get better for you. Being who you are is no longer a permanent barrier to success and acceptance.

    • Ragspierre says:

      As between you and I, who supports racial discrimination in hiring, admissions to college, and other matters?

      Racist phuc.

      • Jesse says:

        Misdirection – a fallacy, and a form of lying.

        You support the positions espoused by your fellow collectivist, EW Jackson, correct?

        • Ragspierre says:

          How is THIS Jackson different from thousands of Christian pastors saying the same thing all over the U.S.?

          Oh, yeah. He’s a black conservative who has left the Collectivist plantation.

          So you are out to destroy him.

          Racist phuc.

          • Jesse says:

            More misdirection, AND the race card!

            He’s not different; he’s part of the same disease – but he happens to be running for public office, dip shit.

            He is part of your political Collective.

          • Ragspierre says:

            You mean like Pres. Christian…?

  57. Ragspierre says:

    Like an estimated 22 million other Americans, I am a self-employed small-business owner who buys health insurance for my family directly on the individual market. We have a high-deductible PPO plan that allows us to choose from a wide range of doctors.

    Or rather, we had such a plan.

    Last week, our family received notice from Anthem BlueCross BlueShield of Colorado that we can no longer keep the plan we like because of “changes from health care reform (also called the Affordable Care Act or ACA).” The letter informed us that “(t)o meet the requirements of the new laws, your current plan can no longer be continued beyond your 2014 renewal date.”

    In short: Obama lied. My health plan died.
    —Michelle Malkin

    Yep. Obama lies all the time.

    And it isn’t…an never was…about health care.

    It IS about control.

  58. Ragspierre says:

    Still voting. Actually, a higher turn-out in several places after voter ID laws.

    The crap about disenfranchisement?

    Lies. In support of Collectivist vote fraud.

  59. Ragspierre says:

    [Obama’s] speech represents a comprehensive map of misreading, to borrow Harold Bloom’s phrase. It takes us on a tour of American interests focused on the Middle East and advertises the cluelessness that emanates from the top of the Obama administration. The speech deserves a knowledgeable line by line annotation exposing its errors and fatuities.


    If the White House speechwriters had inserted a thematic cue like “Message: I care” into the speech, it would have been “Message: I am a chicken ripe for the plucking.”

    Read the whole thing.

    I literally cannot listen to an Obama speech any more.

    • Jesse says:

      “I literally cannot listen to an Obama speech any more.”

      Well, your Collective doesn’t permit listening to anything it disagrees with. You’ll be safer just listening to Stalkin’ Malkin, and the Junkie Limbaugh.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Can you stop lying?

        Serious question.

        Is it just part of the psychosis…???

        • Jesse says:

          Can you ever point out a “lie”, specifically? Or do you really believe that if you scream it loudly and often enough, you’ll actually be able to argue a point? That’s a serious question. It is just part of your Collective’s directives?

  60. Jesse says:

    Why is CSPAN violating Canadian Cruz’ constitutional rights by informing its viewers that he is LYING about filibustering?

  61. Jesse says:

    “Already signed up, moronic troll.”

    Sure you did, chicken hawk. Fighting AG from your Blackberry at the Astros game.

    • Jesse says:

      Because Bernie Sanders didn’t really filibuster, its just fine for the Borg propaganda machine to tell us that Cruz is fillibustering.

      /wingnuttery 101

  62. Ragspierre says:

    Yeah. We lost four Americans…and a LOT of stuff…when Pres. Bumps In The Road went to bed the night of 9/11, and left our people and our stuff to twist in the wind.

    • Jesse says:

      Your faux poutrage over Bengahzi is endearing. How many Americans and stuff were lost on 9/11/2001 and in Iraq – under your last fave daddy’s watch?

      • Ragspierre says:

        Ad hominem tu quoque. Look it up, moron.

        I never had a daddy. I had but one father.

        How many way CAN you find to lie?

        • Jesse says:

          It is not fallacy to point out your ingrained hypocrisy, dishonesty, and cynicism.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Well, sure it is!

            How are 9/11 and Benghazi related…I mean in reality?

            See, you cannot be honest, you just rely on the lie.

            (See what I did there, you piece of shit?)

  63. Jesse says:

    Why is the LIEbrul media violating Canadian Cruz’ constitutional rights by not slobbering all over his pointless phony filibuster, while paying attention to Wendy Davis’ actual filibuster?

  64. Jesse says:

    “How are 9/11 and Benghazi related…I mean in reality?”

    Calendar date, and roughly the affiliations of the attackers. And you conveniently ignore Iraq – as has been ordered by your Collective.

    • Ragspierre says:


      You should be able to cite to the “orders”.

      Right, liar?

      Remember that CONGRESS authorized military action in Iraq? Just like Clinton had them do regarding regime change?

      What a punk-assed bitch.

      • Jesse says:

        And the fact that Congress authorized action in Iraq has what to do with your daddy, GWB, literally “losing” pallets of cash, and thousands of lives? Funny that because GWB went to Congress, this somehow absolves him of the results in Iraq and the lies told to sell it. While Obama going to Congress re Syria magically gives you a raging softie for Pootie Poot’s muscles. Because you hate Obama, and GWB was your daddy. This is all that maters to your Collective.

        Just because your Collective insists that the process is relevant, doesn’t mean that the result is any different. Relying on “orders” is the coward’s way out – and you know a lot about that.

        • Ragspierre says:


          MORE lies. COMPOUNDING lies.

          You really are just a lie-factory, aren’t you you piece of shit…???

  65. Jesse says:

    “You lies are exposed for all the see, stupid.”

    What “lies”, specifically, Inspector?

  66. Jesse says:

    “Why YOU do, you poor psychotic moron.
    YOU prove it EVERY FLUCKING DAY…!!!

    I do, what, Detective Wide Stance? And what does “flucking” mean?

  67. Jesse says:

    Why did Canadian Cruz ask Harry Reid’s permission to talk? I thought that Canadian Cruz was a revolutionary? What kind of Revolutionary asks permission to exhibit the fact that he doesn’t understand what Green Eggs and Ham is about for 17 hours?

    • Ragspierre says:

      More pathetic, stupid, moronic lies.

      You just kant hep it…

      • Jesse says:

        So, Canadian Cruz DIDN’T get permission from Harry Reid to talk for a certain amount of time; didn’t refer to himself as a revolutionary, and didn’t completely butcher the meaning of Green Eggs and Ham? You’ve settled on that “reality”, have you?

        • Ragspierre says:

          Can a “Canadian” be seated as a U.S. Senator, liar?

          Can a Senator take the floor to speak without leave of the leadership, liar?

          Can a person be a revolutionary within the norms of rules and laws, liar?

          Your opinion of the “meaning of” a child’s book is revealing.

          But consistent with your reading ability.

  68. Ragspierre says:

    A LOT more questions than answers thus far.

    Why, it’s kinda like they are trying to cover something up…

  69. Ragspierre says:

    Interesting numbers. So, we ARE winning the war of ideas.


    • Jesse says:

      Gee, you picked off ONE Dem Senator – the most conservative Dem Senator from a red state. Meanwhile, let’s see how many GOP senators vote for cloture and then a clean bill in support of the CR.

      It’s hard to believe anyone can be as politically stupid as you – yet, here we are.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Did you notice you completely confused two entirely separate issues, moron?

        Everyone else did.

        And we all know who the stupid liar is.


  70. Ragspierre says:

    …but for REAL, PROFESSIONAL stupid, you have to go to Dirty, Filthy Harry Reid…

    **House Republicans are considering attaching a provision to the government funding resolution that would repeal Obamacare’s 2.3 percent tax on medical devices. It’s widely viewed as a damaging and counterproductive levy affecting a leading American industry, and all Republicans oppose it. Most Democrats do, too. When the Senate held a non-binding test vote on repeal last March, the vote was 79 to 20. The majority favoring repeal included all 45 of the Senate’s Republicans and 34 Democrats. The Democratic opposition to the tax was particularly notable given that three years earlier Democrats voted unanimously to impose it.
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    So Reid would not reject a repeal provision if the House attaches it to the continuing resolution, right? Wrong.

    At a news conference today, Reid simultaneously denounced the tax — he quite pointedly called it “stupid” — and pledged that he and his fellow Democrats would fight an effort to repeal it in the continuing resolution.**

    Why? Because it is a tax, and Obama wants it.

  71. Ragspierre says:

    In a sidebar to the rollout of Obamacare, the Associated Press reports on the latest Inspector General report involving the good works of the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Administration (ATF): Government agents acting without authorization conducted dozens of undercover investigations of illegal tobacco sales, misused some of $162 million in profits from the stings and lost track of at least 420 million cigarettes, the Justice Department’s inspector general said Wednesday.

    When you try to do too much, you wind up doing nothing well.

  72. Ragspierre says:

    “A leaked State Department email indicates that officials were worried about the safety of House Oversight Committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa after Democrats revealed his plans for a secret trip to Libya this week. . . . Before Issa’s trip, Rep. Elijah Cummings, the ranking member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, issued a press release asking Issa to postpone his trip until he allows Democrats to join him.”

    Hey, terrorists can be useful to the Collective.

  73. Ragspierre says:

    Yep. Winning the war of ideas.

    And women are the fastest growing demographic for gun ownership.


    • Jesse says:

      Yes, because gun “ownership” is the real issue – not whether or not gun ownership should be subject to reasonable regulation, i.e. what a strong majority of Americans and NRA members support.

      • Ragspierre says:

        And yet…

        You lose every time you try to add more restrictions to the 20,000+ gun control laws already in place.

        AND you lie about it. Constantly.

        • Jesse says:

          Yes, a lack of political will in DC = a lack of popular support. This is coming for a Collectivist who supports his fellow terrorists voting 41 times to “defund” the law of the land, and threatening to ruin the full faith and credit of the United States if they are not handed what they cannot accomplish through the democratic process.

          Because you and your Collective HATE democracy.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Serious question…

            Do you ever have an idea that is not packed up your butt by your punk-meisters at the moonbattery Lie-0-trone….????

            DO you pay any attention to the states? And to PEOPLE voting with their dollars in the MOST democratic of institutions…the market?

            No. You find your lies more comforting.

            Because you are yourself a liar, in your core.

  74. Jesse says:

    Why are a strong majority of Americans racist against the anti-democratic Tealiban?

    • Ragspierre says:

      Why do you ask stupid questions premised in your hate-twisted bullshit?

      • Jesse says:

        Why do you whine and scream when you can’t respond to the Tealiban’s lack of popular support, Clownselor?

        • Ragspierre says:

          Why do you lie about someone whining and screaming?

          Oh, I know. It is because you are a lying, hate-twisted Collectivist cowardly moron.

          As you display every day…pretty much.

          • Jesse says:

            Anything to avoid addressing the fact the public is largely opposed to Tealiban “values”, right, Clownselor? You must still be waiting for your Collective to email you the ClownHall opinion link that somehow supports whatever blathering you *believe* this week.

            You’re a reactionary clown – as anyone who can read can see for herself.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Americans think government is too big and too powerful.

            Yes or no, you lying moron?

            Americans think that their central government is too detached from them.

            Yes or no, lying moron?

            The majority of Americans disapprove of ObamaDoggle.

            Yes or no, lying moron?

          • Ragspierre says:

            “You’re a reactionary clown…”

            No, you lying moron, I am a son of the Revolution.

            YOU are the reactionary. And the totalitarian puke who would force people to do what you think “right”.

            I would leave them free to chose.

            I would conduct society free of special considerations about race or gender or any extraneous bullshit.

            You INSIST on it.

            You lying piece of shit.

  75. Ragspierre says:

    Members of the Chicago-based Service Employees International Union Local 1 have gone on strike over recent job cuts by a janitorial company called Professional Maintenance.

    The reason for the cuts? The employer says it is because of the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. This is ironic since SEIU is a major supporter of the law.

    Tyler French, Local 1′s organizing director, told Mediatrackers Ohio the company claimed it had to cut its employees’ hours due to Obamacare mandates.

    French did not believe the explanation, though, calling it the “latest excuse in a long line of many that we’ve seen from corporate America.”

    But others throughout the organized labor movement have warned that such actions will be a direct consequence of the President Obama’s health care law.

    At the AFL-CIO’s convention in Los Angeles earlier this month, Loretta Johnson, secretary-treasurer of the American Federation of Teachers, said it was already happening in her union.

    “We are seeing employer after employer cut hours so as to avoid the 30-hour definition of a full-time job,” Johnson said. The AFL-CIO passed a resolution demanding either Congress or Obama fix the law to stop it from hurting union members.

    Boy, those anecdotes jus’ a keep piling up, don’t day…

    But Jay Carney tells us not to believe our lying eyes.

    And some bung-suckers of the Collective will slavishly follow directions.

    Won’t they, “Jesse”…???

  76. Jesse says:

    “Do you ever have an idea that is not packed up your butt by your punk-meisters at the moonbattery Lie-0-trone….????”

    My ideas are derived entirely from facts that can be verified or not verified. For instance, the public AND NRA MEMBERS support greater restrictions on firearm ownership – FACT.

    “DO you pay any attention to the states? And to PEOPLE voting with their dollars in the MOST democratic of institutions…the market?”

    Again, dummy, just because women or whatever group are increasingly buying hand guns does not mean that they don’t also support reasonable restrictions on say, assault rifles – consistent with the broad public support for such restrictions.

    “No. You find your lies more comforting.
    Because you are yourself a liar, in your core.”

    Which is what you ALWAYS scream when you can’t counter verifiable data with anything substantive and relevant of your own, in support of whatever your bubble *believes* to be true. You’re just not skilled in argument.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “For instance, the public AND NRA MEMBERS support greater restrictions on firearm ownership – FACT.”

      No, liar. That is NOT a “fact”.

      In fact, it is a finding reported by a very suspect poll.

      THAT is refuted by actual conduct. You know…by people VOTING, and SPENDING.

      BUYING a firearm is pretty much UNIVERSALLY subject to a background check. If you disagree, go try it, you punk-assed bitch.
      LEARN wtf you are bloviating about.

      I have.

      • Jesse says:

        All that preening authority you claim on “suspect” sources. Yet not one source to verify any of your Collectivist drivel. I guess we’re just going to have to keep taking your word for it! What makes the polling “suspect”, professor? No, no one expects you to actually provide a verifiable, substantive response to this obvious question – because you are incapable.

        And once again, dip shit, just because people spend money on handguns doesn’t mean that they don’t also believe in stronger, reasonable restrictions on handguns and other firearms. Are you too stupid to address this very simple point, or too dishonest? I’m betting that, as always, its a combination of both.

        • Ragspierre says:

          You lose, moron.

          Here’s a logic question….

          How is it that NRA contributions and membership are booming, IF…

          your bullshit poll has any validity?


          • Jesse says:

            Because, once again, dumb fuck, even a majority of NRA members agree with reasonable safety measures regarding the sale and ownership of firearms. In other words, the NRA’s rank and file doesn’t necessarily agree with the propaganda from the top of the organization, that collectivists like you gleefully swallow.

            And it would be sweet if you would put up ANY authority establishing a “boom” in NRA membership. We’re talking about an organization of 4.5 to 5 million people.

            But we all know you won’t put up any authority. You’ll just scream about “skewed” polls over and over.

          • Ragspierre says:

            As usual, you just swallow whatever is shot in your open gob.

            Look under the hood, you lying sack of shit.

            It was a poll bought and paid for by Nanny Bloomers.

            NRA members DO support responsible gun ownership. They ALWAYS have.

            Puuuurrrr lil punk-assed bitch. You just break over like a shotgun, doncha…????

  77. Ragspierre says:

    And that “approval” rating is due largely to…

    1. white guilt, which keeps people from rating his performance objectively (the soft bigotry of low expectations), and…

    2. black racism. He is black, ergo, he gets a pass.

    • Ragspierre says:

      “Blunt is a leading critic of the health care law, and he predicted the exchanges and other elements of the law will not work as the Obama administration has promised. But that doesn’t mean people should go without insurance, he said.”

      There are a lot of people of the “let it burn” school, moron.

      I know…you never read about that in your moonbat echo chamber.

      • Jesse says:

        I suppose your non-response somehow means something to your fellow Borg Collectivists, but what does it have to do with yet another GOPer getting on board, albeit reluctantly, with the market exchanges (something wingnuts are supposedly in favor of, by thw way – after all, it was a GOP idea, and was adopted by its 2012 presidential candidate)?

  78. Jesse says:

    “No, you lying moron, I am a son of the Revolution.”

    Haha. Goddamn. Such a pretty, preening flower.

    Anything to KEEP avoiding addressing the fact that the public is increasingly repulsed by your Collective’s values.

  79. Ragspierre says:

    In the wake of the shooting massacre at the Washington Navy Yard Monday, Americans are more likely to blame gun violence on the mental health system than easy access to guns, according to a new Gallup poll.

    [READ: Navy Yard Shooting Won’t Change Gun Politics in Washington]

    Although the percentage of people who blame failures in the mental health system “a great deal” for mass shootings has remained unchanged since 2011 (at 48 percent), the percentage of those who blame easy access to guns has dropped from 46 percent in 2011 to 40 percent in September 2013.

  80. Ragspierre says:

    “The reason Ted Cruz stood up and asked for a delay is so that he could have a vote during today when he’s… the teabaggers in his Tea Party were going to watch. This is why I have repeatedly said the greatest deliberative body in the world has become the greatest delaying body in the world.”
    —Nasty Collectivist Bitch from the Senate floor.

    “Deliberative” often means you do DELAY, stupid.

  81. Ragspierre says:

    Blowback has been swift for the pasta maker after he was heard telling a radio show that while he respects the gays, he likes “traditional families” and would never use gay families in commercials. He also said that he supported gay marriage but not adoption, and said if gay people or sympathizers don’t want to eat his pasta because of his message, then he’s not bothered. People took him up on his offer and talk of a boycott has quickly spread on Twitter and Facebook.

    “Yes! Burn him for his heresy…”

    signed, the tolerant Collective.

  82. Ragspierre says:

    Al Gore is at it again, recently charging that “American democracy has been hacked” by special interests and accusing his political opponents of “political terrorism.”

    This comes from a big-government, high-tax advocate who raced to unload his share of a hyped, but failed cable station to avoid newly enacted higher capital-gains taxes. Gore sold his wares to an anti-Semitic and often anti-American Middle Eastern media conglomerate that became the de facto public megaphone of bin Laden (a real, not a just a “political,” terrorist), and whose business losses and Gore’s huge profits were subsidized by a Middle Eastern authoritarian regime, whose riches came almost exclusively from selling climate-changing oil and natural gas. All that is hard to pull off, even for Gore.

    Whether we look at recent climate data versus Gore’s last two decades of hysterics, or follow Gore’s entrepreneurial career of using his contacts in government and his government-made media profile both to hype a “crisis” and then offer his own-profit driven bromides to enrich himself from it, there is no better example in contemporary American life of a proverbial “special interest” taking full advantage of the elite contacts he made during long government service.

    Listening to Gore makes one almost believe in the old Freudian syndrome known as “projection”—each time Gore accuses someone of some supposed sin we see a glimpse into his own anguished soul, as the loud accusation becomes a sort of tortured way of coming to terms with his own unattractive and morally compromised career.
    —Victor Davis Hanson

    Gore is a “moral leader” of teh Collective.

    So. What does that tell us about the “morality” of the Collective?

  83. Ragspierre says:

    Pres. Red Line gives speech…


    jousts heroically with straw men.


  84. […] Kenan Adams-Kinard, 2nd Suspect arrested in death of Delbert Belton […]

  85. Ragspierre says:

    Worse is the new normal.

    Yes, and weaker and much, much less secure. And much, much less private

  86. Ragspierre says:

    “If you’re one of the vast majority of Americans who already have health care, you already have new benefits you didn’t before, like free mammograms and contraceptive care with no copay, and discounts on prescription medicine for seniors.” Pres. Red Line

    See, that is a lie. There is no such thing as a free good. Somebody is paying for everything anyone gets.

    “You’ve already got new protections in place too, like no more lifetime limits on your care, no more discriminating against children with preexisting conditions like asthma, or being able to stay on your parents’ plan until you turn 26.”

    Yes. So now “insurance” is not insurance at all. It is more a fascist utility, collecting money and information (ALLLLLLL your private health information), and doling out what your are permitted by the government, and with the hope you can find someone who will take the chit and provide you medical care.


  87. Ragspierre says:

    The majority of 1,000 likely American voters who participated in a recent survey say the IRS broke the law when it targeted the Tea Party, but few expect punishment

    Fifty-three percent said they think the IRS broke the law when it targeted Tea Party and other conservative groups, but 24 percent disagree and 23 percent are not sure.

    Just 17 percent believe it is even “somewhat likely” that criminal charges will be brought against any government employees for the IRS’ targeting of these groups, while 74 percent consider criminal charges unlikely, including 27 percent who say they are “not at all likely.”

    Thirty-five percent think someone at IRS headquarters made the decision to target conservative groups, while 44 percent believe orders came from somebody who works in the White House and 20 percent are not sure.

    So, this very real scandal is being put right where it belongs by at least a plurality of Americans.


  88. Ragspierre says:

    In the climactic scene of Star Wars (spoiler alert for those few who haven’t yet seen it), Luke Skywalker flies his Rebel X-wing fighter along a trench of the Imperial Death Star and, with one perfectly placed shot, hits a small exhaust port leading directly to the fortress’s main reactor—causing the Death Star to burst into a supernova. When thinking about delaying Obamacare’s individual mandate, that image is worth keeping in mind.

    For it’s not just that delaying the individual mandate is popular (a recent Rasmussen poll finds that Americans favor such a delay by a 30-point margin), an easy sell (President Obama lawlessly delayed the employer mandate, so why not lawfully delay the individual one?), a quick way to cut the deficit by more than $20 billion in 2014 alone (according to the Congressional Budget Office), and a “very reasonable and sensible” thing to do (to quote Democratic senator Joe Manchin, one of 23 Democratic members of Congress who’ve already publicly expressed support for the delay). Indeed, it’s all of those things. But, in two key veins—one psychological, the other functional—it’s also a way to pave the path to full repeal.

    Read the whole thing.

  89. Ragspierre says:

    “@jamiedupree: White House issues veto threat against revised GOP stop gap budget plan” Why is Obama shutting down govt? (@instapundit) September 28, 2013

  90. Ragspierre says:

    Obamacare was designed to fail, but it was designed to fail eventually, not quickly. Progressives, with the help of the media, would blame a failure a few years from now on the “free market.” But failure from the start will force the blame fall where is squarely belongs – on government control.” –Derek Hunter

    And, if we were simply to allow the free market to work in health care generally, as it does in several nice niches now…which provide models proving the thesis…it could all be resolved in a matter of a few years, at no cost from government intrusion in either money or rights.

    But that is NOT what the Collective wants.

  91. Ragspierre says:

    But the Beastly Day fails to see the humor.

    Heh. WONDER why…???

  92. Ragspierre says:

    I will not comply because I am a free citizen of the United States, not a subject of its government. I consider non-compliance with this monstrosity and the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that are to be enforced by an unelected bureaucracy, and that have left a gigantic carbon footprint on our environment and the United States Constitution, a duty.

    Non-compliance is my executive order, and that order reads in part that I do not recognize any government’s claim on my action or inaction in the marketplace, nor upon any personal information I am unwilling to divulge.

    Yep. There will be a lot of us.

  93. Ragspierre says:

    “Tweet out #BlameHarryReid.”

    It isn’t just good messaging…

    It is TRUE. Dirty Filthy Harry is the worst man in the world (or running neck and neck with them as are).

    And, remember, America, he has total disdain for you, and thinks you smell bad.

  94. Ragspierre says:

    Robber: Hands up! Hand over your money! Victim: Sorry, I’m all out. Robber: TERRORIST! *cries* *stamps feet*

    David Burge (@iowahawkblog) September 29, 2013

    Calling someone a terrorist because they won’t do what you want is like calling someone a terrorist because they won’t do what you want.—
    David Burge (@iowahawkblog) September 29, 2013

    You know who else accuses people of terrorism for not giving them stuff? 13-year old girls. #IHATEYOUIHATEYOUIHATEYOU #SLAM—
    David Burge (@iowahawkblog) September 29, 2013

    Pitch. Perfect.

  95. Jesse says:

    Wow, you terrorists REALLY hate being called terrorists. You can’t get what you want through the democratic process, so you take hostages and make political demands. You are little more than thugs who despise democracy.

    But never fear, the public LOVES the Tealiban, as evinced by its stunning ability to lose very winnable senate races, and the fact that it lost the popular House vote by 1 million votes in 2012.

    • Ragspierre says:


      You just lie.


      See Cruz, Ted.

      • Jesse says:

        C.f., Sharron Angle, Joe Miller, Christine O’Donnell, Todd Akin, Denny Rehberg, and Richard Mourdock.

        Not to mention, the 2012 presidential election – historically, should have been very winnable for the Tealiban.

        And is it your position that House Dems DID NOT earn more votes than House GOPers in 2012? I imagine you have some authority for that “reality” LOL, just kidding ….

        • Ragspierre says:

          1. There is no such thing as a “Tealiban”, you poor lying moronic sack of shit.

          2. There is no relevance to a “popular” vote nation-wide in Congressional elections, you stupid, hate-twisted Collectivist liar.

          3. Take away the IRS corruption and the collusion of the Mushroom Media, and the fact that Romney was not SUFFICIENTLY conservative, and all you have is a presidential election with an asterisk by it.

          Oh…and the racism in the black voting block.

          • Jesse says:

            “There is no such thing as a “Tealiban”, you poor lying moronic sack of shit.”

            Misdirection. A form of lying. One of your favorite “arguments” is to attack the literal description of something, while ignoring its substantive makeup, i.e. form over substance – this is the hallmark of a weak argument offered by a weak mind.

            “There is no relevance to a “popular” vote nation-wide in Congressional elections, you stupid, hate-twisted Collectivist liar.”

            It does when you’re trying to gauge broad popular support for X issue, dip shit – which is what we’re talking about.

            “Take away the IRS corruption and the collusion of the Mushroom Media, and the fact that Romney was not SUFFICIENTLY conservative, and all you have is a presidential election with an asterisk by it.”

            Haha. You Collectivists will believe anything your masters tell you about why you lose national elections.

            “Oh…and the racism in the black voting block.”

            Oh right, black people are racists because they didn’t vote for the racists who did everything they could to prevent them from voting, after 4 years of racist treatment of the president.

            Funny that black people voting for a black candidate is racist, but white people voting for a white candidate is not racist. Or something.

            You’re a very silly little guy, and very representative of the intellectual heft of the Tealiban faux movement.

          • Ragspierre says:


            Just A LOT.



            Coupled with crazy.

  96. Jesse says:

    Why won’t the terrorists just allow an up or down vote on the clean bill in the House?

    Because they know it would pass. And they hate democracy.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Why does dictator Dirty Filthy Harry EVER allow votes on what the House passes?

      Oh, I know… Because he is the lil’ dictator, working with the BIG dictator, the Collcetive LOVES.

      • Jesse says:

        I see. Because it’s wrong for Harry Reid to not allow certain votes in a body with widely divergent rules from the House, it IS ok for the speaker of the House to not permit votes in a body in which a simple majority is supposed to rule – the sole reason being a lack of political support for his own position?

        “Why does dictator Dirty Filthy Harry EVER allow votes on what the House passes?”

        Or because the votes would be a waste of time, as everyone knows, in a body who’s rules are very specific about the temporal process.

        And Harry Reid DID allow votes on what the House passed in its CR. The House bill was rejected by as majority vote.

        It’s called democracy. And the Tealiban hate it.

        • Ragspierre says:




          But, hey, it is what you have, and who you are.

          As you show every time you crap on these threads.

          But, again, as always…

          THANKS for the demonstration!

          • Jesse says:

            Which is what you always scream when your demonstrably false “argument” falls apart. Perhaps if you understood more about how the House and Senate rules work, as well as some fundamental principles of democracy, you be better qualified to make an argument on this point.

          • Ragspierre says:

            I never scream.





  97. Ragspierre says:

    In June, I attended a dinner for Bill Clinton, which was educational. Clinton spoke passionately about his foundation, about African wildlife, inequality, childhood obesity, and much else with enormous factual command, emotion, and rhetorical power. But he and I also spoke privately. I asked him about the financial crisis. He paused and then became even more soulful, thoughtful, passionate, and articulate. And then he proceeded to tell me the most amazing lies I’ve heard in quite a while.

    For example, Mr. Clinton sorrowfully lamented his inability to stop the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which banned all regulation of private (OTC) derivatives trading, and thereby greatly worsened the crisis. Mr. Clinton said that he and Larry Summers had argued with Alan Greenspan, but couldn’t budge him, and then Congress passed the law by a veto-proof supermajority, tying his hands. Well, actually, the reason that the law passed by that overwhelming margin was because of the Clinton Administration’s strong advocacy, including Congressional testimony by Larry Summers and harsh public and private attacks on advocates of regulation by Summers and Robert Rubin.
    —The guy who WAS going to do a puff piece on Hill-Larry.


    Collectivists lie. It is who they are.

  98. Ragspierre says:

    Look at the picture, dumb shit.

    And remember…

    the NRA was fighting to arm minorities in the face of your Deemocrat Jim Crow laws.

    What a moron.

    • Jesse says:

      I see. Because black people also like guns, and are members of the NRA, a majority of NRA members do not support more reasonable safety restrictions on firearm ownership …. because [wingnuttery].

      Oh I get it – all black people are the same. Therefore because 2 of them are at a gun show, they must ALL … SOMETHING!

      • Ragspierre says:

        “I see. Because black people also like guns, and are members of the NRA, a majority of NRA members do not support more reasonable safety restrictions on firearm ownership …. because [wingnuttery].”

        Ummm…no. The majority of NRA members DO NOT support MORE, ADDITIONAL, SUPPLEMENTAL NEW efforts to restrict access to the products they chose to buy and use.

        You lying sack of shit.

        There are 20,000+ gun control laws on the books now.

        MORE would not work any better than what we have now.

        READ the piece, stupid.


        What am I saying…!!! You CAN’T read.

        • Jesse says:

          “Ummm…no. The majority of NRA members DO NOT support MORE, ADDITIONAL, SUPPLEMENTAL NEW efforts to restrict access to the products they chose to buy and use.”

          Which is flatly contrary to the polling.

          But we’ll take your word for it, because you’re a JD/MBA.

          • Ragspierre says:

            “Not only are gun owners and non-gun-owners very much aligned in their support for proposals to strengthen U.S. gun laws, but the majority of NRA members are also in favor of many of these policies,” Daniel Webster, co-author of the study and director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, said in a statement.

            In addition to favoring universal background checks, the majority of NRA members surveyed supported prohibiting people with recent alcohol or drug charges to purchase guns, and 70 percent supported a mandatory minimum of 2 years in prison for selling guns to persons who are not legally allowed to have one.

            The surveyors conducted a parallel poll on mental health as it relates to gun violence. That survey found most Americans favored greater spending on mental health to deal with gun violence, but also indicated public opinion on mental illness was less clear-cut. A majority said discrimination against people with mental illness was a problem while nearly half said such people were more dangerous and two-thirds indicated they would not want someone with mental illness as a neighbor.”

            What does “strengthen gun laws” mean?

            Does it mean making background checks EFFECTIVE? Or does it mean BANNING weapons? Does it mean keeping guns out of the hands of people with mental issues? Or BANNING weapons?

            See…??? It is a bullshit poll.

            “Both polls were conducted by Johns Hopkins University’s Bloomberg School of Public Health. The school and its public health programs are large beneficiaries of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, one of the nation’s staunchest gun control advocates and a Hopkins alum. Bloomberg has given the school $1.1 billion since he graduated in 1964, including a $350 million Sunday. Bloomberg founded Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a prominent gun control group, and last week met with Obama’s campaign manager to aid in the administration’s gun control efforts.”

            And you are too stupid and/or aggrandized to bother to think critically.

            Or THINK at all.

  99. Ragspierre says:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has been the most ardent proponent of President Barack Obama taking a hard line with House Republicans in the latest fiscal crisis engulfing Washington.

    When the president considered sitting down with the four congressional leaders in the White House ahead of the deadline to avert a government shutdown, Reid privately urged Obama to call off the meeting, according to several people familiar with the situation. Reid believed that it would amount to nothing more than a photo-op that would give the false impression that a serious negotiation was occurring, even warning he wouldn’t attend such a session. Obama scrapped it.

    That’s some leadership you Collectivists have.


    Dictators. And you LOVES you some dictators.

  100. Ragspierre says:

    A better look at the temperature of the electorate comes on a question about the object of the fight itself. ObamaCare gets a 38/57 approval rating, and majorities in most demos oppose it. That’s true of both men (60%) and women (55%), and especially independents (67%). Every geographic region has a majority opposing ObamaCare on the eve of its enactment. Only 11% of the respondents oppose it for not being liberal enough, too. The more Obama refuses to negotiate over this unpopular train wreck, the more he’s going to look like a spoiled child to everyone except Democrats.
    —CNN poll

    Well, bung-sucking Collectivist trolls will always just suck.

  101. Ragspierre says:

    James Stimson knows as much about public opinion as anyone in America. He has been tracking the nation’s policy preferences for more than 20 years using a “policy mood” index derived from responses to a wide variety of opinion surveys involving hundreds of specific policy questions on topics ranging from taxes and spending to environmental regulation to gun control.

    The latest update of Stimson’s policy mood series suggests that the American public in 2012 was more conservative than at any point since 1952. (Actually, since mood in each year is estimated with some error, it seems safer to say that the current level of conservatism roughly equals the previous highs recorded in 1980 and 1952.) While the slight increase in conservatism from 2011 to 2012 is too small to be significant, it continues a marked trend that began as soon as Barack Obama moved into the White House.

    Yep. And the movement is growing. Americans understand their central government is out of touch and out of control.

  102. Ragspierre says:

    Pres. Red Line is speaking again.


    MORE lies.

    More heroic tilting at straw-men.

    More gulling the rubes.


  103. Ragspierre says:

    In a ruling Monday night, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson turned down the Justice Department’s request to dismiss a lawsuit brought by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee after President Barack Obama asserted executive privilege to prevent some records about the administration’s response to the “Operation Fast and Furious” gunrunning scandal from being turned over to Congress.

    “This case presents the sort of question that the courts are traditionally called upon to resolve,” Jackson said in her 44-page decision, issued more than five months after lawyers argued the issue in her packed courtroom and more than a year after the House committee filed suit. “Dismissing the case without hearing it would in effect place the court’s finger on the scale, designating the executive as the victor based solely on his untested assertion that the privilege applies,” she wrote. …

    “The Court rejects the notion that merely hearing this dispute between the branches would undermine the foundation of our government, or that it would lead to the abandonment of all negotiation and accommodation in the future, leaving the courts deluged with subpoena enforcement actions,” Jackson wrote. …

    Jackson called the Justice Department’s arguments in the current case “flawed and selective.”

    Yep. Fast & Furious will come around.

    The Obamabanana Republic is a pack of outlaws, and they get spanked by the courts a LOT…!!!!

  104. Jesse says:

    Happy, Heritage-Romney-Obamacare day, terrorists!

    I hope you’ve all received your orders to report to your respective re-education camps for mandatory abortions and gay marriage. There will also be forced fitness and nutrition programs.

    And always remember, you are WINNING!

    • Ragspierre says:

      Our very own spoiled lil 13 year old girl shows up to call people names and say stupid stuff.

      Way to go, Brittany…!!!

  105. Jesse says:

    Don’t pay attention to the polling, terrorists! They are all skewed against Real American Traditional Norms (“RATN”).

    RMoney got huge crowds in Western PA!

    • Jesse says:

      This poll is the result of racism against the Tealiban terrorists.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Ah, the psychosis…it is thick with this one.

        • Jesse says:

          Any quarrel with the polling, Clownselor? Or do you just have more ad hominem* and other fallacies** to offer?


          * a form of lying
          ** also a form of lying

          • Ragspierre says:




            Those are psychotic lies…aren’t they, Brittany.

            You are completely in the “hate-twisted dementia” extreme of the Kos-sack (o’ shit) fringe.

  106. Ragspierre says:

    “Individuals shopping for their own coverage with their own dollars will unleash robust competition that’ll do more to bend the cost curve than the price controls and rationing that Obamacare will inevitably bring. What’s more, if individuals are getting generous credits to purchase coverage, it’ll render the employer mandate moot and the individual mandate a whole lot weaker.”

    Well, that’s sorta right.

    Much better to burn down the tax code, and make the entire healthcare system a free market.

    We got in this mess solely because of government market distortions.

  107. Ragspierre says:

    “The Pew Research Center, which conducted the survey, says this is the highest level of anger they have reported, or at least since they started asking the question in 1997.”

    Yes. Because we all…except the bung-sucking myrmidons of the Collective…understand that the central government is out of control and divorced from the people.

    • Jesse says:

      “The angriest right now are the conservative Republicans—41 percent of them are angry. The angriest of the angry are tea partiers, 50 percent of whom say they are angry.”

      Do these bitter-clingers understand that they’ve ostensibly controlled Congress since 2011?

      • Ragspierre says:

        No, Brittany, that is part of the delusional bullshit your Collectivist punk-meisters have been packing up your butt.

        IF the Tea Party controlled Congress, a lot would be very different right now.

        And a lot better.

        • Jesse says:

          The Tealiban DOES control Congress, Clownselor, by virtue of its ability to handle the purse – no not THAT kind of purse. But never fear, bitter clinger, you will be free to handle all the coin-purses and sacks you desire under Heritage-Romney-Obamacare, without fear

          • Ragspierre says:

            See, you are just pure dementia this morning.

            It must be that you know behind all this BS about the “shut down” (which it isn’t), some things will be shown to the Low Information Voter.

            Me? I ain’t skeered. We have a lot of days ahead where people will be made uneasy.

  108. Jesse says:

    Is Congressman Nunes lying?

    “Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) had choice words for fellow House Republicans who are willing to see the government shut down over their opposition to Obamacare: “Lemmings with suicide vests,” he called them.

    “They have to be more than just a lemming. Because jumping to your death is not enough,” he said.”

    • Ragspierre says:

      Well, yes.

      Just like a lot of Collectivists.

      They come with Rs and Ds you know, moron.

      • Jesse says:

        So Congressman Nunes, who is opposed to Heritage-Romney-Obamacare is a “collectivist”. This must mean that because the vast majority of Americans are opposed to the Tealiban’s “shut down” strategy, the vast majority of Americans are also collectivists.

        • Ragspierre says:

          You are vastly deluded, and in a particularly violent fit of psychosis this morning, Brittany.

          Time for you meds and a “quiet time” in your special soft room.

          • Jesse says:

            Ah, your stock response to facts that you cannot handle because your collective has not exposed them to you.

          • Ragspierre says:

            See, this is part of your problem (teeny, tiny part, but a part still…).

            A stated truth to you is just a “stock response”.

            Sorry. I don’t have anything to replace a true statement. I just have the truth.

            You are out of your flucking mind, and it shows.

  109. Ragspierre says:


    The AP FINALLY gets around to printing some truth about ObamaDoggle.

    About FLUCKING time, too…!!!

  110. Ragspierre says:

    And…remember…they will be in charge of keeping your health records.

    It isn’t about health care. It IS about CONTROL.

    • Jesse says:

      “It IS about CONTROL.”

      Well, that’s true, actually. The Black Panters will be at your door within the hour to relocate you to your new FEMA camp home, for re-education. Don’t worry; all of your fellow bitter-clingers will be there too, so you’ll have company. After all of the bitter-clingers are rounded up for proper re-education, their jobs, homes, and possessions will be handed out to blacks, single moms, illegal immigrants, gays, urbanites, people under 25, and ACORN. When you are done with your re-education, we will see what we can find for you to do in service of Obama, who will probably be on his 5th or 6th term by then.

      • Ragspierre says:

        More stupid lies.

        I suppose it must amuse you to lie like this, because it has no value otherwise.

        • Jesse says:

          It does amuse me, yes, to make fun of how you and your fellow Tealiban terrorists actually think. It also amuses me greatly that you are so preening and insecure, that you will REACT to literally anything posted on someone else’ shitty blog.

  111. Ragspierre says:

    Late Monday afternoon, President Obama said in his government-shutdown demagoguery and scaremongering statement:

    Vital services that seniors and veterans, women and children, businesses and our economy depend on would be hamstrung. Business owners would see delays in raising capital, seeking infrastructure permits, or rebuilding after Hurricane Sandy. Veterans who’ve sacrificed for their country will find their support centers unstaffed.

    I know it will stun you to learn that what the president said isn’t true.

    Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America’s Carlisle Williams wrote in to Campaign Spot Monday night, “I’m sure you caught the reference to veterans in Obama’s speech today — the reality for vets is that VA health care is protected. In 2009, Congress passed a law to fund the VA one year in advance, allowing VA health care to be funded for an additional year beyond the government shut down. All VA medical appointment and prescription drug phone lines will be active during the shutdown as well.”

  112. Ragspierre says:

    Yes. Because the whole thing is ObamaDoggle.

    It is a monstrous affront to everything America is about, including the ANTI-democratic process of its enactment.

    • Jesse says:

      “It is a monstrous affront to everything America is about, including the ANTI-democratic process of its enactment.”

      Haha. “Anti-democratic” = majorities in both Houses of congress, and signed by the president.

      You’re a silly little guy.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Boy, you will tell any lie they pack up your butt, huh?

        It was passed in violation of the law and the rules.

        It was ALSO “passed so we can see what’s in it”, which is an affront to any notion of a democratic process. People who don’t KNOW what’s in it…and cannot articulate “what’s in it” to their constituents, are not voting for a law. They are voting for a decision. In this case, to take over a major sector of the economy, and strip people of their rights.

        Not that I expect a moron like you to see or care about the difference, since you LOVE the growth of the State, and totalitarianism.

        • Jesse says:

          “It was passed in violation of the law and the rules.”

          What law and rules, specifically, were violated by the passage of Obamacare?

          • Ragspierre says:

            You don’t know…???


            Well, I guess that is just another thing I understand that you don’t.


  113. Ragspierre says:

    Just a little history.

    And SOME of those were ACTUAL shut downs.

  114. Ragspierre says:

    Consider the debt limit. Like ObamaCare, it is a statute enacted by Congress–or rather a series of statutes, each authorizing the issuance of additional debt as it becomes necessary. The Congressional Research Service reports that the 111th Congress–the same one that enacted ObamaCare–raised the debt limit three times: by $789 billion to $12.104 trillion in February 2009, by $290 billion to $12.394 trillion in December 2009, and by $1.9 trillion to $14.294 trillion in February 2010.

    Obama and the Democrats, who then controlled Congress, could have avoided the current difficulty by enacting legislation in 2009 or 2010 raising the limit to, say, $20 trillion–or abolishing it altogether, or suspending it until 2017. (A suspension of fixed duration, 3½ months, was in fact enacted this past February.)

    It’s not hard to think of reasons why instead they followed the custom of enacting only stopgap increases instead of what would have amounted to a blank check. For one, it would have been politically disadvantageous, if not disastrous, for Democrats to announce their intention to put the country that deeply into debt. For another, Obama had not yet been re-elected, so that a blank check from congressional Democrats might have been cashed by a Republican president.

    Democrats in Congress are no more eager than Republicans to give up the leverage that comes with the need for periodic legislation raising the debt limit. As we noted Friday, Democrats attempted unsuccessfully to use that leverage 40 years ago to enact laws restricting political speech. And in 2006 a young Democratic senator voted against raising the limit to a comparatively paltry $8.965 trillion.
    —Taranto WSJ

  115. Jesse says:

    Americans hate Obamacare so much, that they are overwhelming the various exchange websites with traffic.

  116. Jesse says:

    ep. Scott Rigell (R-VA), the lone House Republican to vote against a government spending bill that would defund Obamacare last week, called on his party to accept defeat and pass a continuing resolution leaving President Barack Obama’s signature health care law intact.

    “We fought the good fight,” Rigell wrote on Twitter. “Time for a clean CR.”

    Rigell opposed the defunding effort last week because it kept automatic budget cuts known as sequestration in place, affecting much of the federal and military employees in his Virginia district. He voted with House Republicans three times on Monday night however, hours before the federal government shutdown, to delay Obamacare’s individual mandate.

    “I call upon the Senate to act immediately and pass this spending bill so that our friends and neighbors don’t suffer any more than they already have,” he said, again lamenting the sequester.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Golly gee…

      A political animal who represents a bunch of Federal bureaucrats and the lobbyists who leach off them in Virgina, making a wholly self-serving statement and voting against the interests of the American people.


      • Jesse says:

        Or rather, his statement is consistent with the voting interests of the American people. If we’re to believe election results and polling – which we know you don’t if they don’t conform to the propaganda your collective demands of you.

        • Ragspierre says:

          But the American people elected a majority to the House in 2010 who were generally openly adverse to the ANTI-democratically passed ObamaDoggle.

          So, that is one lie.

          And, according to the polling, ObamaDoggle is opposed by almost two-to-one.

          So, THAT is another lie.


          • Ragspierre says:


            Forgot to mention the STATES, which are dominated by GOP office holders.

            And a good thing, too. Otherwise, our economy would be MUCH worse.

            AND our people would be MUCH less free.

            Because, see, conservatives LIKE freedom and prosperity, AND know how to obtain them.

            Contra your Collective, moron.

          • Jesse says:

            And then the American People rolled back the Tealiban House majority in 2012, and it would have been worse but for gerrymandering – which you either understand or you do not.

            And the American People voted for Dems over GOPers by a million votes in 2012.

            And the Dems increased their margin in the Senate in 2012.

            And the Roberts Court upheld Obamacare in 2012.

            And the Dems kept the WH in 2012.

            And the best part is that the GOPers ran the first substantive implementer of Obamacare in 2012.

            You have no polling data or other evidence to support your 2-to-1 claim; you just heard it bounce around in your bubble, and assume it to be true.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Not only do I have the polls, I have posted them on this thread, lying sack of shit.

            Look them up.


            I forgot who I was dealing with.

            You don’t read outside the moonbattery.

  117. Jesse says:

    Those are psychotic lies…aren’t they, Brittany.
    You are completely in the “hate-twisted dementia” extreme of the Kos-sack (o’ shit) fringe.”

    So,no quarrel with the polling?

    Just more misdirection and ad hominem. Fallacies. And forms of lying – which is a trait common to your collective.

    • Ragspierre says:

      I haven’t looked under the hood of the polling.

      Have you?


      I kill me, sometimes…!!!

      You are just a psychotic liar, Brittany.

  118. Jesse says:

    “Me? I ain’t skeered. We have a lot of days ahead where people will be made uneasy.”

    Yes, when you creep around airport mens rooms, it does tend to make people uneasy. Give up the bitter-clinging. Things WILL get better for you under Obamacare because your desires will be made mandatory for all Real Americans in the FEMA re-education camps.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Wow. MORE and MORE psychotic lies…

      Thanks for the demonstration of how demented by hate your Collective really is, Brittany.

  119. Ragspierre says:

    The memorable line from Monday’s debate about Obamacare?

    The president’s astonishing declaration that “I shouldn’t have to offer anything.” Thus did the American public get a very candid glimpse of the president whose contempt for duly elected Republican opponents is exceeded only by his fecklessness in the face of America’s enemies abroad. To Putin and the Iranians come offers of all sorts. To the Speaker of the House, only ultimatums.

    Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi also had spectacularly bad days for anyone who was watching. Some pundits don’t think Harry’s gracelessness and Nancy’s strident incoherence don’t matter, but they are wrong. Americans notice everything, even if they say very little. They are consumers, making up their minds over time.

    We forget just how lousy the Big Three Ds are when it comes to communicating, and today’s series of pratfalls should remind every Republican why there is great hope for winning the public opinion battle decisively in the days and weeks ahead, and ultimately for 2014.
    —Hugh Hewitt

    Yep. And people will get it.

  120. Jesse says:

    “You do remember that I credited you on that point, right, liar?
    I set an example for what is called by non-demented people “integrity”.
    Pity you have none.”

    It’s but one example of you dutifully parroting whatever propaganda your Collective puts out, without “looking under the hood”.

    You had to “credit” the point, because the basis of your Collective’s lie that day was, well, just another wingnut lie.

    • Ragspierre says:

      No, liar.

      I could…like you…just keep parroting the error.

      But I did the investigation, and you were correct.

      And now you are lying about that.

      See…??? You really cannot help it. It is the alpha and omega of who you are.

      • Jesse says:

        “But I did the investigation, and you were correct.”

        Yeah, dummy. You did an “investigation” only AFTER you parroted your Collective’s lie of the day for – how many posts? You re-posted the lie, uncritically, like you do so so often, just because your Collective’s propaganda machine decided it thus.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Cite to one time YOU investigated something and came back and admitted you were wrong.


          You are just a lying piece of shit, and proud of it…!!!!

          • Jesse says:

            None that I can recall. More than likely because I do not post uncritical drivel spouted by the propaganda arm of a faux political movement like your Tealiban collective. I’m interested only in facts. Because you do not deal in facts, and never post factual evidence in support of my supposed “wrongness” there is no need to “admit” anything. Again, no one gives a shit what you “admit”. The fun is only demonstrating your foolishness and inability to control yourself.

          • Ragspierre says:


            What a sad, sad, pathetic lil’ lying sack of shit you are…

  121. Jesse says:

    Evern Boehner despises the Tealiban terrorists he has to deal with.

  122. Ragspierre says:

    Yah, well, the common people see the handwriting on the wall.

    The Collective’s lies are not that hard to see through.

    • Jesse says:

      Gee people don’t know if they’ll like something before they use it?!

      Which is why you terrorists are trying to kill it before people can use it and see if they like it or not.

      • Ragspierre says:

        Liar, there are no “terrorists”.

        People are free to “use” it…except for that INDIVIDUAL MANDATE part, you lying sack of shit, that COMPELS people.

        Jeez, you will lie about anything, huh…???

        • Jesse says:

          The Tealiban are terrorists. Demonstrably.

          Heritage, Bob Dole, and Willard M. RMoney came up with the idea for the individual mandate (a tax) to cut down on the free-rider problem. What is it that you hate about individual responsibility, Clownselor?

          The Clownselor and his collective are scared shitless that people are going to be just fine with Obamacare, like they are with Medicare and Social Security. No one but the Tealiban terrorists gives a shit about the individual mandate.

          Which is why they lie (constantly) about the law.

          That reminds me, Clownselor, have you made your appointment with your death counselor to make arrangements for your death pannel?

          • Ragspierre says:

            Liar, there are no “terrorists”.

            People are free to “use” it…except for that INDIVIDUAL MANDATE part, you lying sack of shit, that COMPELS people.

            Jeez, you will lie about anything, huh…???

  123. Ragspierre says:

    Yep. The myth of a government shut-down being a killer is a creation of the Collective.

    Or…another lie.

  124. Ragspierre says:

    This is what you get when you leave people free to choose…

  125. Jesse says:

    Are women allowed to speak for themselves, according to the GOP?

    Rick: Tell them, honey.

    Anita: I fell down some stairs.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Brittany, how many GOP women are in the Congress?

      What a stinking, lying sack of shit.

      • Jesse says:

        Misdirection, straw man, red herring – forms of lying.

        The better question is how many GOP women are properly submissive to their gay husbands, like Crazy Eyes Bachmann instructs?

        • Ragspierre says:

          You don’t even know the meaning of the bullshit you throw on this thread.

          PLUS…your lying piece of shit comment shows you are scared to death of strong women.

          Heh! The Collective HATES “victims” who don’t act right on the plantation.

  126. Ragspierre says:

    Kathleen Sebelius, noting that the government bureaucracies with which she is associated cannot operate a web site, protests: “Hopefully you’ll give us the same slack you give Apple.”
    Deal: Just as soon as we have the same choice about Obamacare as we do about whether we buy Apple products, we’ll extend the same indulgence. The difference is, there’s no law that says we have to buy Apple products, and the IRS will not be dispatched to seize our assets if we fail to get the newest iPod. The benefits of choice are a package deal — you want consumers to treat you like Apple, treat them like Apple treats consumers. You can’t do that with a mandate.

    When you pass a law that says “Everybody must buy Insurance Product X,” and then ask government agencies to set up artificial marketplaces to facilitate the sale of Product X, you’ve failed to create a real market — and from that, incompetency and stagnation flow inevitably.
    Welcome to the DMV-ification of medicine.

    Yep. Collectivist morons do not understand markets, nor do they care to learn. They love compulsion and that ol’ totalitarian urge.

    • Jesse says:

      It’s just funny that the product of of overwhelming demand is website lag. To the Tealiban, this proves that people hate government services. To the Tealiban, the fact that websites get overwhelmed on their first day of operation means that the product is bad.

      • Ragspierre says:

        To demented Collectivist morons, there is such a bogey man as “the Tealiban”.

        But only to them…

        • Jesse says:

          Misdirection – a form of lying.

          Does overwhelming demand on the exchange websites, on the first day, mean either of the following (i) that the product is bad or (ii) that the American people don’t want the product. If your answer to either (i) or (ii) is “yes”, or whatever means (lies) you use to avoid saying “yes”, please explain why.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Your premise is a lie.

            It isn’t “demand”.

            A lot of the traffic is people trying to get answers. To a law NOBODY understands.

            Lying moronic sack of shit.

      • Ragspierre says:

        “Demand” is what you get when you offer something people want.

        It is not what you get when you COMPEL them to comply.

        (I know these are “nuances” to a moron like yourself…)

        • Jesse says:

          Haha, yes, millions of people clamoring to the websites on the first day MUST be the product of compulsion – your collective believes this with all its heart. I mean, it was pretty silly of conservatives to invent this approach until they decided they didn’t believe in it any more when the Kenyan adopted it – isn’t it, Clownselor?

          Riddle me this, professor, if people hated Obamacare as much as your Collective has deluded itself into *believing*, why don’t the public just eat the tax instead of buy insurance?

          • Ragspierre says:

            So, you are ignorant of the categories of inquiries to the UNaffordable Heathcare Act services (HA!).


          • Ragspierre says:

            “…why don’t the public just eat the tax instead of buy insurance?”

            Oh, millions ARE doing just that, moron.

  127. Jesse says:

    “Liar, there are no “terrorists”.”

    The Tealiban are terrorists. Demonstrably. Correct?

    “People are free to “use” it…except for that INDIVIDUAL MANDATE part, you lying sack of shit, that COMPELS people.
    Jeez, you will lie about anything, huh…???”

    Heritage, Bob Dole, and Willard M. RMoney came up with the idea for the individual mandate (a tax) to cut down on the free-rider problem. What is it that you hate about individual responsibility, Clownselor?

    The Clownselor and his collective are scared shitless that people are going to be just fine with Obamacare, like they are with Medicare and Social Security. No one but the Tealiban terrorists gives a shit about the individual mandate.

    Which is why they lie (constantly) about the law.

    That reminds me, Clownselor, have you made your appointment with your death counselor to make arrangements for your death pannel?

    Can you help it? Do you feel compelled to REACT?

  128. Jesse says:

    “You don’t know…???
    Well, I guess that is just another thing I understand that you don’t.

    Hahaha, how did I know this would be your response to a request for support of your “argument”? Duh. Because this is ALWAYS your response.

    I’d love to see you in traffic court.

    What rules and laws were broken with the passage of Obamacare, specifically?

    By next Tuesday you MIGHT link to a PJM opinion piece. Until then, you’ll just hem and haw, shit out every fallacy in the book, and make preening excuses for why you never have to support your “arguments”.

    Like most Enlightened Trial Lawyers, and Sons of the Revolution.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Here’s a hint, Brittany.

      Look up “reconciliation”. Don’t be afraid…

      • Jesse says:

        Lord. You preen and you preen. HOW was the reconciliation process during the passage of Obamacare a violation of the Budget Act? Specifically.

        • Ragspierre says:


          I like you stupid. As, apparently, do you.


          • Jesse says:

            In other words, as usual, you have nothing.

          • Ragspierre says:

            No, moron.

            As usual I know what I am talking about.

            You could, too, but you cling bitterly to your ignorance, stupidity, and lies.

            And I won’t play your game, and that drives you batshit crazy(er).

            And I love watching it.

  129. Ragspierre says:

    At some point, Barack Obama needs to wonder why he is staking his presidency on Harry Reid’s ability to be nasty.

    And Dirty, Filthy Harry knowwwwwwssss nasty.

  130. Ragspierre says:

    Heh! NOT a problem of “demand”. Just a stupid, kludged up DMV level error.

    I’m really impressed….

  131. Ragspierre says:

    Yep. You take what you are owed by the dickless punks in DC if they try to bar you.

    Phuc ’em.

  132. Ragspierre says:

    Yep. That old totalitarian urge throbs just under the thin veneer of Collectivist “tolerance”.

    They love democracy like slugs love salt.

  133. Ragspierre says:

    a is forced to spend, say, the last two years of his presidency contending with the undeniable failure of his signature initiative, that would be a fitting punishment for the hubris of his first two years, especially since the imposition of ObamaCare on an unwilling country was the main consequence of his hubris.

    We hope it fails quickly for an additional reason: to minimize the damage. Imagine if the Post had written a similar editorial in 1917, after the Russian Revolution, titled “Everyone Should Hope Communism Works.” That would have seemed equally high-minded: If communism didn’t work, tens of millions of people would be made miserable.

    Which, of course, is precisely what happened over the next 70-plus years. The Post might respond that that’s an argument against communism rather than an argument against hoping communism works. But when you put it that way, it’s not such a clear distinction, is it? The communist revolution would not have succeeded absent a critical mass of people hopeful communism would work. Nor would it have endured as long as it did if no one had an emotional interest in its perpetuation.

    Hope, in other words, poses a moral hazard: It can be a species of pathological altruism. And consider the perversity of the Post’s logic as applied to the dramatic arc of Soviet communism: By the editorialists’ reckoning, those of us who cheered the fall of the Berlin Wall were heartless boors indulging in Schadenfreude.
    —Taranto, WSJ

    It seems to be failing rather nicely so far…!!!

  134. Ragspierre says:

    An employee of Minnesota’s Obamacare exchange, MNsure, sent an unencrypted file to the wrong person and left 2,400 people’s private information at the mercy of a nearby insurance agent.

    One exchange staffer’s simple mistake gave insurance broker Jim Koester access to an Excel document of Social Security numbers, names, addresses and other personal data for whole a list of insurance agents. Luckily for the 2,400, Koester was cooperative — and unnerved.

    “The more I thought about it, the more troubled I was,” Koester told the Minnesota Star Tribune. “What if this had fallen into the wrong hands? It’s scary. If this is happening now, how can clients of MNsure be confident their data is safe?”

    The Collective doesn’t care about your privacy, security, or your rights, proles. You are here to serve the State, for the greater good.

  135. Ragspierre says:

    Connecticut Healthcare Exchange Sees 28K Visitors But Only 167 Applications For Insurance.

    Bu…bu…but “overwhelming demand”…?!? The Collective moonbattery told Jesse it was so. And HE always checks his facts.

    Right, Brittany…???

    • Jesse says:

      Lord, you can’t be this dumb. What do you think happens when the sites are overwhelmed with traffic? The site crashes and applications can’t be filled out.

      Again, are you really this stupid, or are you pretending?

      • Ragspierre says:

        Put up your evidence that that Connecticut system crashed, and that due to volume, you moronic liar.

        And bsNBC didn’t run into a “traffic problem”. They ran into bad code, you poor, stupid, butt-boy for the Collective.

        • Jesse says:

          “Put up your evidence that that Connecticut system crashed, and that due to volume, you moronic liar.”

          Put up yours that it didn’t, liar. If you read (LOL), public officials said what they expected on the first day. Demand exceeded what they expected.

          “And bsNBC didn’t run into a “traffic problem”. They ran into bad code, you poor, stupid, butt-boy for the Collective.”

          Ah, a distinction without difference – a fallacy and form of lying.

          Lying is just what you do.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Let’s see…

            It is your proposition that there is not difference between a (very badly designed) system that crashes because its capacity is overwhelmed…

            and a system that produces errors because of its bad code.

            You are an idiot AND a liar.

    • Jesse says:

      Haha, let’s dig a little deeper. You got this “fact” from a tweet from one of your intrepid wingnut operatives, and that tweet spread like wild fire across the wingnut-o-sphere. You got your orders. But lets look at the actual reporting in CT, shall we, Clownselor?

      They didn’t expect a ton of people signing up in CT because not all of the insurers were in the exchanges by day 1.

      But you didn’t dig any further after you got your orders from your Collective, did you?

      As usual – its who you are. Just like with the Bill Clinton thing.

      • Ragspierre says:

        As of 4 p.m., Tuesday 83 people had enrolled in one of the plans offered on Connecticut’s insurance exchange. The number was far more than Access Health CT CEO Kevin Counihan had anticipated.

        The call center fielded more than 1,930 calls during the day, with the average call time trending at approximately nine minutes. It also received more than 123,000 visits to its web site from about 28,000 unique visitors. The high traffic volume caused the website to crash or operate slowly at certain points in the day.

        How was what I posted wrong, moron?

        Read down into the story, and you’ll find that some web-browsers are not even supported.

        Genius. Yessiree, I really want my health care being determined by these people.

        Gawd, you are stupid.

        • Jesse says:

          From what you cut and paste, moron:

          “The high traffic volume caused the website to crash or operate slowly at certain points in the day.”

          Is that a lie, Clownselor? They got more traffic than they expected on day one.

          “Read down into the story, and you’ll find that some web-browsers are not even supported.”

          Which has precisely what to do with demand, moron?

          “Genius. Yessiree, I really want my health care being determined by these people.”

          Your health care isn’t being determined by the people who created the websites. You do understand that web creators aren’t the same as insurance companies, right? I mean, does that have to be explained to you?

          • Ragspierre says:

            “The high traffic volume caused the website to crash or operate slowly at certain points in the day.”

            Is that a lie, the man who punks my ass daily? They got more traffic than they expected on day one.

            I dunno. Could be a lie. Just because some government puke tells me something, or it is reported, I don’t just swallow it like you do.

            Could be perfectly true. Which is a confession of ineptitude. Of bad design and execution, just as we expect from DMV “health-care”. EXACTLY as we predicted.
            “Read down into the story, and you’ll find that some web-browsers are not even supported.”

            Which has precisely what to do with demand, smarter person than Brittany?
            Nothing. NObody said anything about it being tied to demand, you illiterate puke.

            It IS tied to very bad design and execution. AS PREDICTED.

            See, moron, this is the level of performance you get out of BIG GOVERNMENT.

            Compare and contrast to a market, where consumers are free to choose, and consumers choosing what they want to spend their money on creates DEMAND for a product or service…or not.

            But you hate freedom, and leaving people with choices.

  136. Jesse says:

    ““…why don’t the public just eat the tax instead of buy insurance?”
    Oh, millions ARE doing just that, moron.”

    Misdirection – a form of lying. We weren’t talking about the radical right. We were talking about the people signing up with the exchanges.

    If the people signing up for the exchanges are doing so only because they have been “compelled” to do so, as you claim (without evidence as usual), why don’t they just pay the tax if they are being “compelled”?

    • Ragspierre says:

      You lying little sack of shit, point to the place where I said people are “only” doing it out of compulsion.

      There are people who are signing up because they’ve heard the lies that it is “free” healthcare.

      Others will sign up because they’ve heard they will become involved with the IRS if they do not, and Big Brother has put the hoo-doo on Americans for decades using that thuggery.

      Others will sign up because the genuinely think it sounds like a swell deal. And for some, it will be. Especially those who will be given other people’s money to pay for their “insurance” (which it is not, btw).

      So, there you go, lying little sack of shit.

      • Jesse says:

        [You lying little sack of shit, point to the place where I said people are “only” doing it out of compulsion.]

        You said:

        “‘Demand’ is what you get when you offer something people want. It is not what you get when you COMPEL them to comply.”

        [There are people who are signing up because they’ve heard the lies that it is “free” healthcare.

        Others will sign up because they’ve heard they will become involved with the IRS if they do not, and Big Brother has put the hoo-doo on Americans for decades using that thuggery.]

        Speculation. Assumes facts not in evidence. Psycho-babble bouncing around in your bubble among your fellow Collectivists is evidence of precisely nothing. Other than mass mental illness.

        • Ragspierre says:




          Stupidly, persistently, and constantly.

          Like here.

          • Jesse says:

            Haha, confronted with your own blabbering, you predictably revert to your natural state – screaming “LIAR!”

            Because like most members of your cult, you are incapable of confronting facts that challenge what you *believe*. Even when those facts are your own words. What is your evidence that people are signing up because they heard that it is “free”, and/or that they are afraid of the IRS?

            LOL don’t worry, Clownselor, we KNOW you don’t have any evidence, and that you will scream something to avoid supporting your position.

            Just give up the bitter-clinging, power bottom. Under Obamacare, you’ll finally be able to be yourself after your re-education.

          • Ragspierre says:

            But you DID, and DO lie.

            I never said what you said I did, and your “quote” shows it, moron.

            I LOVE punking you…!!!

  137. Jesse says:

    “I never said what you said I did, and your “quote” shows it, moron.”

    Whatever you have to tell yourself, power bottom.

  138. Ragspierre says:

    Tonight House Republicans offered a series of measures to restore funding to the national parks, District of Columbia operations and veterans’ services. But House Democrats voted against all three measures, sending them down to defeat. So the Democrats’ hypocrisy is revealed: they wring their hands over those poor Americans who want to visit the parks, but when they have the opportunity to fund the parks, they turn it down.

    Yep. Deemocrats…as Collectivists…lie.

  139. Ragspierre says:

    The heavily touted online federal healthcare exchange ( that got off to a disastrous start today was designed by a team made up entirely of Obama minions, including the design manager for the president’s 2008 campaign and the White House Deputy Director of New Media.

    The expert team of Obama pals has been designing the bilingual website for months and it’s supposed to be the centerpiece of the new healthcare law, serving as an essential tool that will guide millions of Americans through the rigorous process of choosing insurance. Its appearance and modern technology are not commonly seen in most federal government websites, so it definitely sticks out though it’s not even working properly. In fact the Spanish page isn’t functioning at all, delivering a message that says “lo sentimos, no podemos encontrar la página (Sorry, we can’t find the page).”
    —Judicial Watch

    Bet we paid a very, very pretty penny for all that FAIL.

  140. Ragspierre says:

    Yah, we generally hate dictators, and will fight them when we have to, and way that’s appropriate.

  141. Ragspierre says:

    The American Left’s hatred for all things conservative has been on full display in Washington in recent days, with the White House and its allies in Congress heaving with anger and indignation over mounting opposition to the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, and growing calls to defund it. President Obama has blamed Tea Party Republicans for what he calls a right-wing “ideological crusade” prompting the federal government shutdown. As the president put it in his Rose Garden press conference, “they’ve shut down the government over an ideological crusade to deny affordable health insurance to millions of Americans. In other words, they demanded ransom just for doing their job.” Obama allies have used similar inflammatory language over the past week, aimed at demonising anyone who disagrees with their approach. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has railed against Tea Party “anarchists,” and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has attacked what she calls “legislative arsonists.” Even former Vice President Al Gore has jumped in to the fray, accusing the GOP of “political terrorism.”

    The harsh invective flowing from Washington’s liberal establishment has been nasty, juvenile and petty. This should be a moment for humility for the White House over its hugely unpopular Obamacare reforms, which are opposed by a significant majority of the American people. Ironically President Obama turns the other cheek on the world stage when it comes to challenges to US global power, and has made the appeasement of America’s enemies and strategic competitors into a form of art. But he acts in a truly imperial fashion at home, refusing to listen to the slightest hint of criticism domestically. This is a president who happily apologises for his country’s past when he travels abroad, in thoroughly humiliating fashion for the United States, but cannot bring himself to acknowledge that his own policies might be wrong.
    —Nile Gardiner

    That is correct. Narcissist can never be wrong.

    Poor broken child.

  142. Ragspierre says:

    The New York Times surveys the Obamacare roll-out in Florida, home to America’s second-highest uninsured population. This piece is extraordinary:

    MIAMI — The glitches in the new electronic health care sign-up system began almost immediately at the Jessie Trice Community Health Center, in one of this city’s poorest neighborhoods, and they never let up. With a potential applicant by her side, Linda J. Lott, a certified application counselor, stood at her computer terminal and typed the word “Florida” into the insurance exchange network Web site. “The system is down at the moment,” it read…All day, trained application counselors typed in “Florida,” or got as far as entering some applicants’ personal information, before the system crashed. Sometimes the crash came when it was time to answer a security question. Other times applicants put in their security question answers but could go no further. Out of nearly 72 applicants who sat down with counselors by noon, none were able to access the marketplace. All of the applicants were given appointments to come back another week…Bertha Stewart, 53, who is unemployed, stood by Ms. Lott’s side. Ms. Lott asked her whether she wanted to type in the information herself, and she said no. Computers, she said, are not her thing. After long pauses, there was a moment of euphoria when they actually got past the security questions screen. “Success,” Ms. Lott said. But the moment did not last long. “Your account cannot be created at this time,” the screen said. “Wow,” she said. “This is unbelievable.”

    The law’s defenders are careening from one insulting spin job to another, one of the most prevalent being, “hey, we just underestimated how much strain there’d be on the servers!” Cato’s Caleb Brown responds:

    “Don’t worry. We’re just bad at anticipating demand. Your insurance & health care will work fine, though.”

    — Caleb O. Brown (@cobrown) October 1, 2013

    Yep. As predicted. All hte customer service and efficiency you expect from a monopoly with a gun to your head.

  143. Ragspierre says:

    Pres. Red Line over-played his dictatorial impulses.

    Now he’s going to eat this.

  144. Jesse says:

    Wait a minute. The very learned Tealiban (who can’t count 2/3 in the House) has told me that Obamacare is a job-killer. How can this be:

    This is what the Tealiban is afraid of, and this is why they are embarking upon shutting down the government, and threatening the full faith and credit of the United States. They cannot win national elections, so they’d rather blow it all up in a tantrum. They are terrorists.

    • Ragspierre says:

      People with whom you disagree are not throwing a “tantrum”.

      They are not “terrorists”, but you are a lying little sack of hate-twisted shit.

      The offer was made to staffers who put in more than 1,500 hours in the past year, the threshold at which employers will be required to offer coverage, said Ed Chambers, president of the Service Trades Council, which represents 37,000 at Disney parks in Orlando. Other companies are reducing hours to avoid the mandate.
      Enlarge image Disneyland Park

      Walt Disney Co. characters Minnie Mouse and Mickey Mouse take pictures with a guest at Disneyland Park, part of the Disneyland Resort, in Anaheim, California. Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg
      Disney CFO Rasulo on Parks, Films, TV Strategy

      Sept. 19 (Bloomberg) — James Rasulo, chief financial officer of Walt Disney Co., talks about the company’s theme parks, films and television distribution strategy. Rasulo speaks with Adam Johnson and Trish Regan on Bloomberg Television’s “Street Smart.” (Source: Bloomberg)
      Cars Land Opens at Disneyland

      June 15 (Bloomberg) — Thomas Staggs, chairman of Walt Disney Co.’s Parks & Resorts, John Lasseter, chief creative officer at Pixar, and Robert Iger, chief executive officer of Walt Disney Co., talk with Bloomberg’s Christopher Palmeri about the opening of the Cars Land attraction at Disneyland last night in Anaheim, California. (Source: Bloomberg)

      While Disney’s proposal is good for employees, it presents a dilemma for the six affected unions because some who qualify have less seniority than others in line for full-time jobs, Chambers said. Representatives of the unions, which operate under the Service Trades Council umbrella, are requesting more information from Disney and plan to meet again on Oct. 7.

      “Disney wants to be proactive,” Chambers said yesterday in a telephone interview. “Disney is way out in front on this.”

      Roughly 27,000 full-time employees at Walt Disney World get health-care benefits that meet the requirements of the act, Chambers said. Part-time workers who don’t qualify for coverage under the act get more limited benefits.

      A spokeswoman for Walt Disney World in Florida had no comment.

      Insurance exchanges designed to provide medical coverage to 48 million uninsured Americans began offering plans yesterday for service that would start Jan. 1. As the marketplaces opened, the U.S. government partially shut down for the first time in 17 years after Republicans sought to delay the law.
      Employer Mandates

      Companies across the U.S. have been reviewing their health plans in light of employer mandates that take effect in 2015. Individuals are required to sign up for coverage starting in January.

      In August, United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) said it will drop coverage for employed spouses, while Walgreen Co. last month told 160,000 workers they must buy insurance from a private exchange rather than have the company arrange their coverage.

      SeaWorld Entertainment Inc. (SEAS), based in Orlando, last month reduced its cap on weekly hours for part-time employees to 28 hours next year from 32. The company said it will add full-time employees at its 11 parks next year. Those positions will include medical benefits, while part-time jobs won’t.

      SeaWorld has about 22,100 employees, including about 4,400 full-time, according to a regulatory filing in May.
      And REMEMBER…

      Obama illegally gave the employers a pass on their mandate.

      Shouldn’t individuals get the same pass?

      • Jesse says:

        People who cannot, through the democratic process, legislative process, or the courts, achieve their political agenda, and as a result threaten (and enact) harm on America and Americans, are, by definition, terrorists.

        • Ragspierre says:

          But every statement you premise your lie on is, itself, a lie.

          How many contempt of court citations have been issued against the Collectivist regime of Pres. Red Line, you lying sack of shit?

          How many laws is Obama in violation of, you poor, stupid bung-sucker for the Collective?

          The legislative process is being used, moron.

          You just don’t like what it is producing.

  145. Jesse says:

    The American people continue to be racist against the Tealiban terrorists.

    But women are buying more hand guns, which proves [insert wingnuttery here]!

    • Ragspierre says:


      The crazy just keeps getting thicker…!!!

      • Jesse says:

        No quibble with the polling? Still?

        Just ad hominem – a fallacy and form of lying?

        Still, Clownselor?

        • Ragspierre says:

          It is not ad hominem to observer your madness, troll.

          I don’t have enough information about the poll to attack it, so I don’t.

          As to the debt ceiling, isn’t this the first administration to see a reduction in our credit rating?

          Remember, that which cannot go on forever won’t.

          • Jesse says:

            “I don’t have enough information about the poll to attack it, so I don’t.”

            Ah, so you just engage in name-calling, given your lack of information, thereby making you little more than a troll paid to lie on the internet (which is news to no one).

            “As to the debt ceiling, isn’t this the first administration to see a reduction in our credit rating?”

            Yes, because of the Tealiban terrorists.

          • Ragspierre says:

            No, honey.

            You are demented. Anybody can see that.

            It isn’t calling you names to note it.

            Now, when I call you a lying sack of shit, THAT TOO is simply an observation of who and what you are.

            Sorry for you. Really. Pathetic.

  146. Jesse says:

    Even big business, i.e. the producers, hate the Tealiban terrorists.

    Are the producers lying?

    • Ragspierre says:

      Big Business LOVES BIG GOVERNMENT.

      It is one part of a fascist economic model, moron.

      • Jesse says:

        “Big Business LOVES BIG GOVERNMENT.”

        Correct. Which is why they put their lot in with the Tealiban because they thought the Tealiban would enact their preferred brand of big government (because historically, this is what always happened when GOPers held the purse). Now they’re just looking for sanity.

        • Ragspierre says:

          But, of course, that is a lie.

          BIG BUSINESS has historically supported Deemocrats.

          Look up the facts, idiot.

          Small business supports conservatives.

          • Jesse says:

            Evidently you didn’t read the story talking about big business types DEFECTING to the president’s side. Show us the “facts” demonstrating otherwise.

            LOL! We know you don’t deal in facts. You’re a silly little guy.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Sure I did, moron.

            “Most of these lawmakers say local business owners and chambers of commerce have not raised the potential economic downside of a government shutdown or debt default.

            Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, like many of his colleagues, said the overwhelming message he hears from business owners is their dislike of Obama’s health care overhaul, which is at the center of Congress’ impasse and the government shutdown. Likewise, Rep. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio, said he mostly hears business owners complain “about the negative effects of ‘Obamacare’ upon their ability to do business and hire people.”

            When Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., was asked if he had heard business groups express fears of a government shutdown’s economic impact, he replied: “No. And it wouldn’t make any difference if I did.”


            Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., emphasized that point. “I’m from a district that pretty much ignores Washington,” he said. “If you say government is going to shut down, they say, ‘OK, which part can we shut down?'”


            On Wednesday, Obama is hosting chief executives from the nation’s 19 biggest financial firms.


            BTW, what’s your read on the DNC being essentially broke?

            You sending in a big, fat check…???

    • Ragspierre says:

      It isn’t a “shut down”.

      That is just one of your Collectivist lies.

      • Jesse says:


        • Ragspierre says:

          No, Brittany.

          She’s-bilious saying yesterday’s train-wreck was “good” is Newspeak.

      • Jesse says:

        Wait, first it wasn’t a “shutdown” – it was a “slimdown”. Now it might be a shutdown, but if it is, it’s just someone else’s shutdown. It’s hard to keep track with your newspeak propaganda. But you dutifully bleat it all out as demanded by your collective, correct?

  147. Ragspierre says:

    Heh! That will be fun.

    Of course, the Obami will try to stonewall any hint of transparency. As always.

  148. Ragspierre says:

    The reports are coming in of incredibly petty shut downs beyond the WWII Memorial and Lincoln Memorial.

    Newt Gingrich posted this image (h/t Twitchy) of a bus turnaround shut down at Mount Vernon:

    The tour bus turnaround at Mount Vernon closed by Park Police. Zero maintenance required. #shutdown

    — Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) October 2, 2013

    They shut down the bus turnaround even though Mount Vernon is OPEN:

    DC Tourists frustrated by shutdown Smithsonian should visit Mount Vernon. Ladies of Mount Vernon have NEVER taken govt money. Still open

    — Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) October 2, 2013

    Huh… The National Park Service becomes a pack of nazis under Obama.

  149. Ragspierre says:

    Obama doesn’t give a fig about kids with cancer if they come up against one of his real interests.

  150. Ragspierre says:

    Dirty Filthy Reid actually responds, when asked if he’ll agree to the House’s new bill to fund NIH in the name of keeping clinical trials for kids with cancer up and running,

    “Why would we want to do that?”

  151. Ragspierre says:

    Wholly CRAP, Batman…!!!
    WWII veterans visiting the memorial that was erected in their honor vs. paid SEIU protesters: great optics for the Obama administration! But it gets worse. The protesters claimed to be furloughed federal employees:

    In the video below these protesters were marching towards the press gaggle and I was asking them to show their federal IDs to prove they were in fact federal workers. No one wore their federal ID and none would provide it to prove their claim.
    Then, remarkably, a guy carrying a sign passed by wearing a McDonald’s employee shirt, which I noted. I then began asking them how much they had been paid to protest, at which point the guy wearing the McDonald’s shirt came back and admitted he had been paid $15 to attend the protest.

    Talk about your epic FAIL…!!!

  152. Ragspierre says:

    Nothing complicated here. In order to strengthen his hand in negotiations, the president’s decided to try to kickstart a hopefully not-too-damaging market sell-off over the debt ceiling. The more the Dow drops tomorrow, the more Boehner and other moderate Republicans will think twice about letting this process play out all the way up to the deadline on October 17th. And if the market doesn’t dive sharply enough — maybe “only” 200 or 300 points — he can always nudge it again next week with more dire rhetoric. It might take losing a thousand points or even two, but damn it, if that’s what it takes to teach these tea partiers not to scare the hell out of markets by behaving irresponsibly, then oh well.

    But really, how cynical is that, for Pres. Red Line to try to get a market panic going?

    Happily, the market seems…unimpressed with Pres. Red Line’s bullshit.

  153. Ragspierre says:

    170 Deemocrats go on record voting AGAINST funding for cancer research trials for children.

    LOVE THAT…!!!

    OPTICS. Heh!

  154. Ragspierre says:

    See…??? This is delusion on a scale with your own. As a matter of fact, this IS your own delusion, which you simply parrot here when you need some attention.

    Again, it is simply sad to see two narcissists playing out their pathologies in a desperate drive for approval and recognition.

  155. Ragspierre says:

    California’s health insurance exchange vastly overstated the number of online hits it received Tuesday during the rollout of Obamacare.

    State officials said the Covered California website got 645,000 hits during the first day of enrollment, far fewer than the 5 million it reported Tuesday.

    The state exchange had cited the 5 million figure as a sign of strong consumer interest and a major reason people had so much difficulty using its $313-million online enrollment system.

    Dana Howard, a spokesman for Covered California, said the error was the result of internal miscommunication.

    “Someone misspoke and thought it was indeed 5 million hits. That was incorrect,” he said.,0,7108713.story

    Yep. Liars lie.

  156. Ragspierre says:

    Not one person in Louisiana has been able to successfully enroll in Obamacare, reports @NOLANews:

    (@jeffemerson) October 02, 2013


    Have spoken with several groups in Texas and so far haven’t found anyone who has actually enrolled anyone. #Obamacare—
    Jennifer Haberkorn (@jenhab) October 02, 2013

    • Jesse says:

      Gee, in two states where Tealiban governors are actively trying to sabotage the Act, enrollment isn’t going well?

      • Ragspierre says:

        Poor lil’ Brittany, throwing another tantrum, calling people demented names, and spinning the failures of ObamaDoggle (and they are legion) like a top.

        What a pathetic liar.

  157. Ragspierre says:

    He tried logging in to the exchange’s website at 8:45 a.m. yesterday, which is impressive in itself. Most young people don’t get up that early. “He said the system could not verify his identity.” So he called the toll-free help line, whose operator also encountered computer trouble. “But then he logged on a second time, he said, and the system worked.”

    “Once it got running, it was fast,” Mahoney tells the Courant. “It really made my day. It’s a lot like TurboTax.” He obtained insurance through ObamaCare. Now, he says, “if I get sick, I’ll definitely go to the doctor.” Even better, if he stays healthy, he won’t need to go to a doctor, and his premiums will support chronically ill policyholders on the wrong side of 40.

    So, how much of a premium is strapping young Brendan Mahoney paying to help make ObamaCare work? Oops. The Courant reports that Mahoney “said that by filling out the application online, he discovered he was eligible for Medicaid. So, beginning next year, he won’t pay any premium at all.”

    So the great success story of ObamaCare’s first day is the transformation of a future lawyer who was already paying for insurance into a welfare case.

    Go TEAM ObamaDoggle…!!! Impressive.

  158. Ragspierre says:

    Heh! Barrycading us from our history and heritage.

    Government by pain. That’ll work.

    Fun to see that ol’ totalitarian urge flying out in the open.

    Heh, and HEH!

  159. Ragspierre says:

    But that TOTALLY has nothing to do with ObamaDoggle being a job-killing machine…!!!

    Plus…Mickey Mouse or something.

  160. Ragspierre says:

    This is my refrain: If only we had a free press, Obamacare would be a bloody, unrelenting scandal, like Abu Ghraib, or Watergate. As it is, it is only business as usual for liberals and liberalism.

    So very true. Read the whole thing, follow the links, watch the video.


  161. Ragspierre says:

    Meanwhile, interviews with health insurers, industry consultants, nonprofit groups and people trying to sign up for coverage suggested that the number was very low. Some companies that are offering plans on the federal site said Wednesday that no one had signed up with them.

    Very, very few people that we’re aware of have enrolled in the federal exchange,” said one insurance industry official, who like many in the industry, spoke on the condition of anonymity out of concern for possibly offending the Obama administration. “We are talking single digits.

    A spokesman for one major Blue Cross Blue Shield plan in a southern state said that, as of Wednesday afternoon, it had not received word from federal health officials of any customers who had completed enrollment in the plan — even though a local news outlet had reported about a man who thought he had signed up. So, plan officials didn’t know whether the man’s enrollment was incomplete or whether the federal reporting of enrollment was running behind.

    Yep. Exactly as predicted. DMV level performance.

    And these people presume to know how to run one-seventh of the economy, and make YOUR decisions for you.

    (Not MY decisions, because they will never have me in compliance with this crap-sandwich.)

  162. Jesse says:

    “As usual I know what I am talking about.”

    As usual, you demonstrate an inability to make an argument. You see, i KNOW that there was no violation of the Budget Act. I generally KNOW that all of your screams of illegality are false. Which makes it all the more amusing when you squirm, preen, hem and haw, and unload your laundry list of fallacies when you refuse to support your “arguments”.

    You do this because you are unlearned in making an argument. You are paid by the RNC to pretend to be a lawyer on the internet.

  163. Ragspierre says:

    The state Department of Natural Resources on Wednesday refused a directive from the National Park Service to close a host of popular state properties because of the federal government shutdown.

    The park service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle Moraine, Devil’s Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request because the lion’s share of the funding came from state, not federal coffers.

    . . . in a sign of defiance, the DNR removed the barricades at the landing, saying it had the legal authority to operate the launch under a 1961 agreement with the federal government.
    —The Journal-Sentinel

    That’s how you push them back.

  164. Ragspierre says:

    OMG, Jay Carney speaks of “Republican demands to collapse the world economy.” Politics ain’t beanbag, but such outright mendacity is rare.

    — Brit Hume (@brithume) October 2, 2013

    Mr. Hume must have been asleep for several years.

    Mendacity and hate-speech are the LINGUA FRANCA of the Obamabanana Republic.

  165. Ragspierre says:

    “Republicans have sent bill after bill after bill to the Senate to keep the government open, and Democrats have rejected every one of them — refusing to even talk about our differences,” Boehner said in a statement. ”We want to resolve this dispute as soon as possible, but that will require Washington Democrats to realize neither side gets everything it wants.”

    Yeeeeeup. Dirty Filthy Harry’s shut-down isn’t going well.

    He and the poor broken child need to get real.

  166. Jesse says:

    The Tealiban terrorists are screaming like stuck pigs at the mean words Harry Reid is saying. They are screaming because they’ve already lost, but are too stupid to realize it. What they DON’T know is that their leader, President Boehner, is going to offer up a clean CR with a clean debt ceiling increase, and pass it with a large amount of Dem votes.

    This is all for show to placate the Tealiban terrorists.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Now you have voices in your head “screaming”, along with your delusion about a “Tealiban”.

      You really need some help.

      • Jesse says:

        Poor Clownselor:

        The President knows he can’t negotiate with terrorists like the Tealiban. Boehner knows this as well. Which is why this will be resolved in about 2 weeks with a clean CR and a clean debt limit increase. And it will possibly be done with the support of the majority of House GOPers.

        The Tealiban will get NOTHING. And be blamed for the shutdown. And lose more support nationally.

        Obamacare will be unscathed – it is here to stay. Let that sink in, terrorists.

        Tell us again, Clownselor, how the President “blinked” yesterday. Remember when GOPers were actually good at politics?

  167. Ragspierre says:

    Yes! Government by malice. Simple meanness and contempt for the American people…

    on display for all to see.

  168. Ragspierre says:

    Most of the news about the “Shutdown Theater” — unnecessary closures ordered by the Obama administration to purposely maximize the pain of the government shutdown — has focused on the Washington, DC area, but the epidemic of artificial Potemkin Suffering has now struck the West Coast as well.

    San Francisco’s Cliff House, a privately owned and very profitable restaurant overlooking the Pacific Ocean, was suddenly and unexpectedly ordered closed today, “because” the building sits on federal land. This, despite the fact that the Cliff House racks up $11.5 million in annual sales and is one of the most profitable independent restaurants in the nation.

    How does the government save money by shuttering a profitable business? And a private one at that?

    As David French at TheCorner said, this is government by malice.

  169. Jesse says:

    Remember, this is how the majority of Americans CORRECTLY see the Tealiban:

    Pig-ignorant, grandstanding, shit-heels.

    You are WINNING, Clownselor!

  170. Jesse says:


    Well until the next time your terrorists throw a tantrum, and put a gun to the nation’s head because you cannot get your agenda passed through the democratic process, or win national elections.

    Yes, we know it only “ends” with your lot finally dying off entirely, which probably won’t be until 2020 because of gerrymandering, which you confuse for “popularity”. Struggles against terrorists like the Tealiban, like fighting the undead, are generational affairs that will take vigilance.

  171. Jesse says:

    “So, the malice of the Obama/Reid shutdown and how they are using the power of the Federal government to inflict pain on the people is OK with you?”

    Ah, “malice”. I see you are dutifully vomiting out the the talking points your collective ordered today. None of this is ok – but I, and Americans blame the terrorists, not the federal government. The terrorists shut down the government by not passing a budget, which they easily could if their leadership allowed an up or down vote on a clean bill – you know, democracy. Which you hate.

    • Ragspierre says:

      But, of course, you are lying.

      The House has passed budget after budget.

      This is the Obama/Reid shutdown, as even you know.

      • Jesse says:

        And failed for months to go to conference with the Senate ….

        It was the goal of the Tealiban to shut her down since April, as you know, but because cynicism and dishonesty are just what you do – you deny it.

  172. Jesse says:

    “And a “faux poutage””

    Yes, this is what the Tealiban cynically do when they begin to lose the argument on the merits – for example going out to the WWII memorial and grandstanding, and pretending to give a shit about kids with cancer.

    • Ragspierre says:

      You are confusing me with Harry Reid.

      Who…like Obama…does not give a shit about kids with cancer when they aren’t useful.

      Just go to the video, you lying sack of shit.

    • Ragspierre says:

      The Congressmen and women went out to the Memorial to kick out the flucking jams, liar.

      And the Obama nazis were vanquished, yet again.


      • Jesse says:

        Haha, “Obama Nazis” – The Park Service. It’s amazing that you’ve gotten this far in life without drowning in a bathtub (which will be a net plus for this country when you and your fellow terrorists finally succumb to whatever obesity-related illness finally grabs you).

        Tealiban terrorists shut down the government because Obamacare gives them a sad, and then pretend to be outraged and shocked that federal lands aren’t open – while screaing at UNPAID park rangers.

        Remember, a vote for a Tealiban congressperson is a vote for a bad human being.

  173. Ragspierre says:

    Not for “some reason”.

    Because of dictatorial malice by the broken child and the Collective.

  174. Ragspierre says:

    Well, of course. Obama cares about good education for poor kids like he gives a shit about kids with cancer.

    Which is not at all.

    He has state monopoly union teachers to make happy.

    (If you want to see people who DO care about healing kids, look up Shriners.)

  175. Ragspierre says:

    The debate on the Senate floor turned poisonous for a few minutes when Mr. Reid verbally savaged Sen. Ted Cruz, a Texas Republican who wasn’t on the chamber floor but who Mr. Reid said was pulling the strings on the GOP strategy and encouraging the GOP-dominated House’s hardline stance.

    “Senator Cruz is now joint Speaker. He lectures the House,” Mr. Reid, Nevada Democrat, said.

    Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican, firing a warning shot back at Mr. Reid by reading a passage from Senate rules that forbids disparaging the motives of fellow senators.

    Reid cuts off children’s cancer screening, fouls his diaper, shakes fist at America, violates rules…

    “Leader”…??? Naw.

  176. Ragspierre says:

    Every true “independent” voter in the United States should be clamoring for the full and immediate repeal of ObamaCare after watching a few days of Barack Obama’s Shutdown Theater. Do you really think the man who vandalized the World War II Memorial with barricades to make elderly veterans suffer will hesitate a microsecond to use your health care as leverage against you, the next time you defy his commands? You’re not “independent” in any meaningful sense whatsoever if you’re comfortable with what’s going on here.

    This was always a top goal of ObamaCare. Dependency is control. The Ruling Class does not fear people who rely upon it for food and medicine. Until now, the first nickel of every proposed “spending cut” – even using the ludicrous Washington definition of the term, which really means “reduction in the rate of spending growth” – has come from teachers, police, and firefighters. For the rest of history, if ObamaCare is allowed to stand, that first nickel will be coming out of health care. If Sequester Theater wasn’t enough to convince you this was coming, its big-budget Shutdown Theater sequel should have removed all doubt.

    Read the whole thing.

  177. Ragspierre says:

    Well, of course. If it wasn’t for Potemkin villages, the Collective wouldn’t have no village at all.

  178. Jesse says:

    But but but, this is the Reid/Obama shutdown!

    25% approve of the Tealiban shutdown, i.e. the Tealiban themselves. Funny, first the Tealiban told us that his isn’t a “shutdown” at all. Then, when they saw how much the public hated them, and tried to rebrand it as the Obama/Reid shutdown. Yet they APPROVE of the shutdown, and as we all know, it’s been their goal all along.

    OBL had it wrong. All terrorists have to do is get elected to Congress from gerrymandered districts.

    • Ragspierre says:

      More demented lies.

      So…just another day for you, right…???

      • Jesse says:

        I see, so it is a “lie” to cite yet another poll indicating disapproval of the Tealiban shutdown. Wait, slimdown – which is it today, Clownselor?

        Do you quibble with the poll, or, as usual, are you just going to scream “LIES!!”

        Tell me, Clownselor, is Crazy Eyes lying about being happy about the Tealiban shutdown?

  179. Jesse says:

    Why not allow an up or down vote in the People’s House?

    Because the Tealiban HATE democracy.

    • Ragspierre says:

      No. We LOVE democracy. We also love responsible government.

      Oh, and we hate lies and liars.


      • Jesse says:

        Yes, as evidenced, by the fact that your collective will not permit an up or down vote in a majority body, i.e. the will of the people. Rather, a radical minority is taking the country hostage because it hates a democratically enacted piece of legislation, held constitutional by a conservative supreme court.

        OBL didn’t call himself a terrorist either.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Whoa…let us count the lies…!!!

          You are being punked, and are too stupid to know it.

          When you need 10,000+ pages (and counting) of NEW regulations, you are not talking about a LAW.

          You are talking about a basic revolution in our nation and economy.

          It was passed illegally, and by a bear majority in the House. And NO law is set in stone…even ASSUMING this was a law. And Obama had not ILLEGALLY bastardized it.

          You just LOVES you some dic…tator.

          • Jesse says:

            Haha, you’re back to screaming about the supposed “illegality” of the Act – which you STILL cannot support factually or legally.

          • Ragspierre says:


            Sure I can, you bung-sucker.

            I just won’t play your game!


            And I LOVE punking you all over these threads.

  180. Jesse says:

    But, the Clownselor has been creaming his collective’s talking points for days telling me that its the Dems’ fault the Tealiban shut down the government!

    Note the “small business” donors described in the story.

    • Ragspierre says:

      See, this is why recycling is not always good.

      AND you are late to the ball, mow-ron, I scanned that story yesterday.

      An echo off the moonbat echo chamber. You must have the memory of a goose to even pretend that is not just a slight rewrite of your Toilet Paper Mau-mau piece.

      • Ragspierre says:


        I forgot about your reading handicap.

        You illiterate phuc.

      • Jesse says:

        I see, so the facts asserted therein aren’t, in fact, facts, because they were reported in the Daily Beast, supposedly part of the “moonbat echo chamber”.

        All you can do is attack the sources for being sufficiently approved by your Collective.

  181. Ragspierre says:

    “I want to make sure everybody understands this because, again, sometimes the tendency is to say, well, both sides are at fault,” Obama said at a rally Thursday in Rockville, Md. “This one has nothing to do with deficits or spending or budgets. … This whole thing is about one thing. The Republican obsessions with dismantling the Affordable Care Act and denying affordable health insurance to millions of Americans.”

    Which is a flat-footed LIE. Or SEVERAL, actually. Just look at the last two bills passed by the House.

  182. Ragspierre says:

    Today’s example of blatant media bias comes to us courtesy of (naturally) the Los Angeles Times, in a story titled Government shutdown puts squeeze on Republican moderates:

    NEW HANOVER TOWNSHIP, N.J. — Kenn Challender, a Republican, is not thrilled with Obamacare.

    But this week, he’s a lot more worried about how he’s going to pay the mortgage and feed his three children. The government shutdown has temporarily cost him his job as a civilian aircraft mechanic at a nearby military base.

    “I talked to the bank, and they said the best they could do would be to waive the late fee,” said Challender, 33, standing underneath the American flag on his front step. “There’s nothing I can do about it now.”

    This pocket of small-town New Jersey, mostly Republican and deeply dependent on nearby Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, is filled with military retirees and now, with the shutdown, thousands of angry, idled workers like Challender.

    Why, those damned Republicans! Why won’t they vote to pay civilian mechanics who are working for the military?

    Except, Republicans are the only ones who are working to do just that. And the L.A. Times refuses to tell you.

    H.R. 3241 is the Pay our Guardsmen and Civilian Defense Personnel Act. Its purpose:

    To amend the Pay Our Military Act to provide for continuing appropriations for defense civilian personnel (including military technicians (dual status)) and members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces performing inactive-duty training.

    The people behind the bill are Republicans like Austin Scott, the bill’s sponsor.

    The bill is in committee, but if it gets passed by the House (which I think likely, and which I encourage the House to do), it would be killed by Harry Reid and Barack Obama.

    You’d think that fact could merit a mention in this blamestory.

    You’d think that — until you realize that the story appears in the Los Angeles Times, where fairness is only an occasional accident.

    The Mushroom Media is just the propaganda arm of the Collective.

    If we had a free press, this would be a presidential leadership failure.

    Which, of course, it IS.

  183. Ragspierre says:

    And, of course, Pres. Snoop Dog is quite willing to try to panic players in the markets and around the globe.

    As usual, showing the hates America, and will cause any damage he can to American interests in pursuit of “fundamental transformation”.

  184. Jesse says:

    “the point flying unmolested over your crap-packed skull.”

    This is a lie. You are incapable of making a factually-supportable “point”. Instead, you furiously post a bunch of bubble-approved propaganda.

    • Ragspierre says:

      And you are just a hate-twisted troll, and a demonstrated liar.

      The point was that you were merely publishing..REpublishing…the same bullshit from the other day in a very slightly modified wrapper…

      as “news”.

      Poor demented thing.

      • Jesse says:

        Misdirection – a fallacy, and a form of lying.

        Do you have any quarrel with the reporting in the story? If so, why? Based on what evidence?

        Relax. We know you don’t have any factual basis for objecting. You’ll just scream “LIES!!!” again, and deflect.

        Because this is what you do – you’re incapable of doing anything else. The RNC doesn’t pay its trolls very well, clearly.

  185. Ragspierre says:

    But for every petty political calculation that backfires, many go unreported. During this shutdown, federal websites promoting Obamacare may be open but access to high-profile websites run by NASA, the Library of Congress, the Agriculture Department, as well as and many others has been shuttered. “This makes no sense,” Donald Rieck, executive director of the Statistical Assessment Service at George Mason University, told me. “It costs more money to close sites than to keep them running without being updated.” After all, the infrastructure to keep websites up is already in place.

    A memo by Office of Management and Budget director Sylvia Burwell makes it clear it’s not possible to spare any expense when it comes to shutting down the government: “The determination of which services continue during an appropriations lapse is not affected by whether the costs of shutdown exceed the costs of maintaining services,” Burwell wrote. Her memo also says that if a website is down, it should show a standard notice that it will be unavailable during the shutdown.
    —The Corner

    More tales from government by malice, as sponsored by Pres. Snoop Dog.

  186. Ragspierre says:

    Ted Cruz chastised his Democratic colleagues on the Senate floor for refusing to pass smaller bill to fund particular parts of government, such as veterans’ affairs, war memorials, national parks, and the National Institutes of Health, arguing that funding those services wouldn’t mean Democrats had ceded ground in the Obamacare debate.

    Noting that Congress had passed a bill earlier in the week to preserve military pay, Cruz lamented, ”Sadly, that was the last of that behavior that we were to see. I hope that majority leader returns.”

    “[The VA bill] is exactly like the bill that my friends on the Democratic side of the aisle voted for to fund the men and women of the military,” the Texas senator continued. “They’ve done it once, and yet for whatever reason they’ve made the decision that appears to the public to be cynical and partisan.”

    That’s because Harry and Barry HATE the American people, and have utter contempt for them.

    They ARE haters, after all…

  187. Jesse says:

    “Sure I can, you bung-sucker.
    I just won’t play your game!”

    Yes, the “game” of making a factually and legally cognizable argument, IS one I play.

    How was the passage of Obamacare a violation of the Budget Act, Clownselor?

  188. Ragspierre says:


    Make the haters in the Collective go on record voting against these measures.

    SHOW America. Go OVER the heads of the propaganda arm of the Collective!

  189. Ragspierre says:

    Hater Harry Reid is the most mean, twisted, and STUPID man ever to be called “leader” of the Senate.

    He’s the coward.

  190. Ragspierre says:


    You don’t mean all that “success” bullshit was just…well…


    Where IS that “surprised” face…???

  191. Ragspierre says:

    Yeh, see, what your Collectivist overlords and demigods don’t really get…???

    We won’t eat your shit.

  192. Ragspierre says:

    This week’s “shutdown” of government, for example, suffers (at least for those of us curious to see it reduced to Somali levels) from the awkward fact that the overwhelming majority of the government is not shut down at all. Indeed, much of it cannot be shut down. Which is the real problem facing America. “Mandatory spending” (Social Security, Medicare, et al.) is authorized in perpetuity — or, at any rate, until total societal collapse. If you throw in the interest payments on the debt, that means two-thirds of the federal budget is beyond the control of Congress’s so-called federal budget process. That’s why you’re reading government “shutdown” stories about the PandaCam at the Washington Zoo and the First Lady’s ghost-Tweeters being furloughed.

    Nevertheless, just because it’s a phony crisis doesn’t mean it can’t be made even phonier. The perfect symbol of the shutdown-simulacrum so far has been the World War II Memorial. This is an open-air facility on the National Mall — that’s to say, an area of grass with a monument at the center. By comparison with, say, the IRS, the National Parks Service is not usually one of the more controversial government agencies. But, come “shutdown,” they’re reborn as the shock troops of the punitive bureaucracy. Thus, they decided to close down an unfenced open-air site — which oddly enough requires more personnel to shut than it would to keep it open.
    —Mark Steyn

    Same-same with various data and science web-sites the Feds have. It costs MORE to take them down than to leave them up.

    So, what do the government-by-malice types do…???

    And WHO hates science…???

  193. Ragspierre says:

    In a stunning development, some military priests are facing arrest if they celebrate mass or practice their faith on military bases during the federal government shutdown.

    “With the government shutdown, many [government service] and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer,” wrote John Schlageter, the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services USA, in an op-ed this week. “During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.”

    Hmmm… What would be great is if several of these folks got arrested for holding services.

    I would LOVE to see that…and the aftermath.

    See, THIS is how you violate the First Amendment WHILE demonstrating how you “support the troops”.

    EXCELLENT optics to show who the Collective really is.

  194. Ragspierre says:

    Just think what our country would look like if we had a working free press…

  195. Ragspierre says:

    Of all the fraud perpetrated in the passage of Obamacare — and the fraud has been epic — the lowest is President Obama’s latest talking point that the Supreme Court has endorsed socialized medicine as constitutional. To the contrary, the justices held the “Affordable” Care Act unconstitutional as Obama presented it to the American people: namely, as a legitimate exercise of Congress’s power to regulate interstate commerce.

    To sustain this monstrosity, Chief Justice John Roberts had to shed his robes and put on his legislator cap. He rewrote Obamacare as a tax — the thing the president most indignantly promised Americans that Obamacare was not. And it is here that our recent debate over the Constitution’s Origination Clause — the debate in which Matt Franck, Ramesh Ponnuru, Mark Steyn, and yours truly have probed the historical boundaries of the “power of the purse” reposed by the Framers in the House of Representatives — descends from the airy realm of abstraction and homes in on a concrete violation of law.

    It is not just that the intensely unpopular Obamacare was unconstitutional as fraudulently portrayed by the president and congressional Democrats who strong-armed and pot-sweetened its way to passage. It is that Obamacare is unconstitutional as rewritten by Roberts. It is a violation of the Origination Clause — not only as I have expansively construed it, but even under Matt’s narrow interpretation of the Clause.


  196. Ragspierre says:

    There is a dark comedy at work here.

    Someone thought a hand-full of Park Service people in straw Smokey Bear hats would daunt the same hearts that took Mount Suribachi with what water they carried and little else.

    Many of them going on to Chosin Reservoir.

    They just have no idea who these men are.

  197. Ragspierre says:

    “This land is our land, it sure ain’t your land
    From downtown DC to the Lake Mead shoreland
    From the Arctic Refuge to the Gulf Stream waters
    This land is closed to you and yours”


  198. Ragspierre says:

    “I’ve studied Niccolo Machiavelli – it’s time the Democrats start using his tactics!” Another Collectivist tool.

    Gee. How ’bout we kill or get raped a few children in your government-by-malice administration?

    You think this is good messaging? I actually am loving this…where you pukes are coming out in your full plumage.

  199. Ragspierre says:

    Congressional Republicans ought to memorize, and preface their every statement with, some simple formula. “One: Make Congress and the White House obey the same Obamacare rules you do. Two: Obama let business off for a year; we want workers to be let off for a year too. That’s the GOP plan. What part don’t you like?”

    —David Gelernter

    That’s some good messaging, rat thar…

  200. Ragspierre says:

    THE INCOME TAX’S UNHAPPY 100TH BIRTHDAY. “Critics warned a century ago that the new tax would ultimately be ruinous. The income tax ‘will tax the honest and allow the dishonest to escape,’ the New York Times wrote. The Times warned that in any emergency the tax rates would be sure to rise and that ‘its unpopularity will grow with its life.’……..Today, the heavy burden of taxes is clearly a major drag on our country’s economy. The U.S. now has the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world. In 1913, the total number of pages in the tax code was only 400. Today, it’s 73,954.”

    So. Burn. It. Down.

    Repeal the 16th Amendment. Just like we did with Prohibition. Both came from the Progressive movement, and both have been terrible errors.

  201. Jesse says:

    Is Peter King lying?

    [[Rep. Peter King (Tealiban-NY) on Sunday placed responsibility for the government shutdown on the Republican party.

    Appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” King disagreed with colleague Rep. Tom Graves (R-GA) on the GOP’s strategy to link Obamacare to a continuing resolution to fund the government.

    “I’m talking about Ted Cruz, who basically was saying that he if he defunded Obamacare he could manage to both keep the government open and defund Obamacare,” King said. “The fact is, it was done in the House, and the government is now closed and Obamacare is going forward. This was a strategy that never could have worked.”

    “We are the ones who did shut the government down,” he later added. “Charles Krauthammer called it the suicide caucus. The Wall Street Journal said they were kamikazes. You don’t take the dramatic step of shutting down the government unless you have a real strategy and it has a chance of working. It’s never had a chance of working.”]]

    • Ragspierre says:

      Your first moronic “Is __________ lying”? post of the day.

      And, you poor, delusional, lying sack of shit, there is no such bogey thing as a “Tealiban”.

      There is a Collective that feigns to care about children, however.

      • Jesse says:

        Your first moronic deflection / straw man of the day.

        Is Peter King (Tealiban-NY) lying?

        • Ragspierre says:

          Your first…well, maybe not…inapposite use of terms you are too stupid to understand.

          • Jesse says:

            Your second deflection / strawman of the day – issued in order to avoid answering a question.

            Is Peter King (Tealiban-NY) lying?

            Quit stalling like a bitch.

          • Ragspierre says:

            This tells us a lot about your success in the dating world.

  202. Jesse says:

    “You have those auditory hallucinations again, Brittany.”

    Quit stalling.

    How did the passage of Obamacare violate the Budget Act? Do you even know what the Budget Act is, and what it says, Clownselor? Have you ever read a statute before?

    • Ragspierre says:

      I can cite to where you envoked the “Budget Act”.

      Can you cite to where I ever used that term, you pathetic, lying sack of shit?

      See, I am WAY smarter than you, and will not play your game.

      For the 1,967,324th time.

      • Jesse says:

        You said that the passage of Obamacare was “illegal” because “reconciliation”, and offered no more as usual, because it’s never your job to support your “arguments”. “Reconciliation” is a creature of the Budget Act.

        How did the Obamacare process violate the Budget Act or any other law?

        Quit stalling.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Read up the thread, moron.



          I said “read” in the same sentence with instructions to YOU…!!!

          I KILL me….!!!!

          • Jesse says:

            Yes, I’ve read all of your hemming and hawing, declarations of not being required to support your point, deflection, strawmen, ad hominem, etc. – all the usual stuff.

            But how was the passage of Obamacare a violation of the Budget Act or any other law? Specifically.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Why, no.

            I LOVE driving you bat-shit crazier because I won’t play your old, worn out game, and you aren’t bright enough to find a new one!

            AND…you lied about reading.


  203. Ragspierre says:

    Dodson’s book, titled “The Unarmed Truth,” provides the first inside account of how the federal government permitted and helped sell some 2,000 guns to Mexican drug cartels, despite evidence the guns killed innocent people.

    Dodson, who is working with publisher Simon and Shuster, submitted his script to the department for review, per federal rules. However, it was denied.

    Greg Serres, an ATF ethics official, told Dodson that any of his supervisors at any level could disapprove outside employment “for any reason.”

    Serres letter said: “This would have a negative impact on morale in the Phoenix Field Division and would have a detremental effect [sic] on our relationships with DEA and FBI.”

    The national office of the American Civil Liberties Association is representing Dodson as he fights the decision. ACLU attorney Lee Rowland says the agency’s restriction is overly broad.

    Rather than provide a specific objection with would allow for a line-by-line redaction, ATF used a policy that “grants supervisors the discretion to censor critical speech simply because it annoys or embarrasses the ATF,” Rowland wrote in a letter delivered Monday.

    “Given the national importance of both the Fast and Furious operation and ATF practices more broadly, ATF faces an extremely high burden in demonstrating that its interests outweigh Agent Dodson’s right to speak-and the public’s right to hear-his views about Operation Fast and Furious,” she explained.”

    Oh, one can imagine having the truth out here would be “bad for morale” at the highest levels…!!!

  204. Ragspierre says:

    More “success” stories from the land of crony central-planning “investment” by the broken child.

  205. Jesse says:

    Yes, they really ARE this stupid.

    “This tells us a lot about your success in the dating world.”

    The fact that you immediately associate “bitch” with Woman is telling.

    Is Peter King (Tealiban-NY) lying?

  206. Jesse says:

    Remember, this one one of the Clownselor’s regular sources of propaganda.

    Yes, they really ARE this stupid.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Well, two things…

      1. cite to my last reference to Big Government

      2. refute their story

      See, you really are THIS big a liar.

      • Jesse says:

        “1. cite to my last reference to Big Government”

        You mean you still don’t know. stupid? Refute the fact that you regularly copy and paste from Big Government.

        “2. refute their story”

        Refute the “story” that Obama literally wants to shut down the ocean? You mean you still don’t know, stupid?

        This is what we mean when we say, yeah, you really are this stupid.

        • Ragspierre says:

          1. Ok. You’re lying. Again.

          2. “Literally”…??? What a lying piece of shit.

          In the Big Government piece, point to a place where they talk ONCE about “literally closing the ocean”.

          Gawd, you are so STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooopid and SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo
          totally a bung-sucker for your broken child/dictator.

          And you LOVES you some dic…tator.

          • Jesse says:

            “In the Big Government piece, point to a place where they talk ONCE about “literally closing the ocean”.”

            You mean you STILL don’t know, st0000pid?

  207. Ragspierre says:

    Government by malice will teach more and more of us to resist.

    Remember: no movement of civil disobedience…with enough popular support…has ever failed.

    It is an irresistible force from all the evidence of history.

  208. Ragspierre says:

    Remember when you…bung-sucking tool of the Collective you ARE…were telling us that the ObamaDoggle FAIL was because of SOOOOOOOooooooo much “demand”…???

    I do.

    And I laugh, and laugh, and laugh, and…

    • Jesse says:

      Wow, an opinion piece based on the “testimony” of individuals with no actual knowledge of the facts.

      Or as the Tealiban calls it – solid factual reporting.

      • Ragspierre says:

        You didn’t read it.




        • Jesse says:

          Sure did, and its still pushing the Amber Alert shutdown lie.


          “it seems like testing wasn’t done completely.”

          Wow, compelling – from someone who doesn’t know one way or another.

          “It appears the people who built the site don’t know what they’re doing, never used it, and didn’t test it…”

          It seems, huh? Solid.

          • Ragspierre says:

            You are lying on both counts.


            How did it work, moron…????

            How’s it working NOW…???

  209. Ragspierre says:

    I have a call into Harry Reid’s office seeking his position on whether he will bring the FEMA bill to a vote, but thus far he has refused to allow individual funding bills to come to a vote, not even for NIH child cancer clinical trials.

    Obama has threatened to veto the FEMA funding bill.

    When the storm hits the Gulf coast, if FEMA does not have sufficient funding, there will be no one but Democrats to blame.


  210. Ragspierre says:


    That COULD mean that the Collective has been…I dunno…LESS than truthful…

    • Jesse says:

      Haha, the CEO of Moody’s says, huh?

      • Ragspierre says:


        Yeah. What does HE know…???

        But, on hte plus side, at least he isn’t out trying to scare the markets into a panic.

        • Jesse says:

          Yeah, I mean just because he’s not actually in charge of the Treasury does not mean he doesn’t know better than the Treasury Secretary. And, like Moody’s did so well with rating the crap securities that caused the financial crisis in 2008.

          Regardless, only in the wingnut bubble does the opinion of ONE guy mean that everyone else is lying – or something.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Point to where I said it meant “everyone else is lying”, you moron.

            See…??? You really cannot read.


  211. Ragspierre says:

    Harry Reid drags his feet on alleviating the financial anxiety of hundreds of thousands of furloughed federal workers, and he’s refused to bring to the floor seven continuing resolutions, all passed by the House, all passed by wide and fairly bipartisan majorities (all or almost all of the Republicans, and another 20 or so House Democrats):

    Authorizing military chaplains to do their duties during the shutdown;
    Continuing appropriations for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children for fiscal year 2014 (food stamps).
    Continuing appropriations for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
    Continuing appropriations for veterans benefits.
    Continuing appropriations for the National Institutes of Health.
    Continuing appropriations for National Park Service operations, the Smithsonian Institution, the National Gallery of Art, and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.
    Continuing appropriations of local funds of the District of Columbia.
    Not a single one of those resolutions says anything about Obamacare.

    We know why Harry Reid isn’t bringing them to the floor. If he did, they would pass. Senate Democrats wouldn’t be able to vote “no” on any of those priorities without providing fodder for attack ads next fall (maybe the District of Columbia). And if they pass, the pain of the shutdown is mitigated in part.

    Harry Reid doesn’t want to minimize the pain of the shutdown. He wants to maximize it.
    —Jim Geraghty

    Yes. Because the Collective WANTS you afraid of government, and to make sure you understand the consequences of getting uppity.


  212. Ragspierre says:

    “If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums,” Barack Obama said during his 2007 speech unveiling his health care plan. “That will be less.”
    In 2012, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi said on Meet the Press that “everybody will have lower rates” under Obamacare. When asked by THE WEEKLY STANDARD this summer about reports of large rate hikes for some Americans, Pelosi said, “I don’t remember saying that everybody in the country would have a lower premium.”

    Ah, but WE DO REMEMBER.


    Lies. Nothing but lies.

    And we told you at the time, dupes.

  213. Jesse says:

    This can’t be right. In between taking wide stances in the airport mens room, picking crumbs and mustard from his mustache, and sucking his gut in and out in front of the mirror, Clownspierre has been SCREAMING at us that the Tealiban’s temper tantrum is resonating positively with the American people:

    SKEWED POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ragspierre says:

      My, my…

      those auditory hallucinations are getting worse all the time.

      Did you look at the poll, moron?

      Well, of course not, because that would threaten your delusions.

      Can’t have that.

      Imagine how America would look if we had a working press!

      • Jesse says:

        And we’ll just have to take your word for it!


        • Ragspierre says:


          BECAUSE I never ask anyone to take my word for anything, except as pertains to personal matters.

          I ALWAYS invite people to investigate. That benefits everyone, seems to me.

          I won’t spoon-fed infantile morons like you, so you can do the patented Collectivist hand-wave.

          You either learn or you don’t. And I really DO find your STUPID a lot of FUN!

          • Jesse says:

            “BECAUSE I never ask anyone to take my word for anything, except as pertains to personal matters.”

            And on the internet.

            “You either learn or you don’t. And I really DO find your STUPID a lot of FUN!”

            And your use of All CAPS and lots of exclamation points only boosts your ALWAYS unsupported “arguments”!

            Tell us more about the standard of care for abortions.

          • Ragspierre says:

            What can I help you with, you stupid liar?

            I provided you the links to Planned (and PROFITABLE) Abortionhood’s website where the standard of care was presented in their video.

            I can’t pack information in your head better than that, you punk-assed bitch.

  214. Jesse says:

    “Point to where I said it meant “everyone else is lying”, you moron.
    See…??? You really cannot read.

    Point to where I said that YOU said that it meant that everyone else is lying, you moran.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Oh, I SEE. You have OTHER voices in your head, and are talking to THEM, too.

      Heh, heh, heh.

  215. Ragspierre says:

    So what will actually happen if Congress doesn’t increase the debt ceiling by approximately October 17? The government’s debt obligations will be paid, but reductions in other spending will start to become necessary. In effect, leaving the debt ceiling as is would function as a spending cut. This is why the Democrats hate the idea so much. They know there is zero chance of default, but they are horrified at the prospect that voters and taxpayers may find out that there is a relatively simple way to bring about spending reductions that would create, in effect, a balanced budget. Hence the hysteria.

    There would be no “default”. That word has a meaning.

    Look. It. Up.

  216. Ragspierre says:

    When the president deplores the lack of bipartisanship and the lockstep Republican effort to defund Obamacare, we remember that the president steamrolled the legislation through the Congress without a single Republican vote.

    When the president laments the loss of civility and reminds the public that he uses “calm” rhetoric during the impasse, we know he has accused his opponents of being on an “ideological crusade” and of being hostage takers and blackmailers who have “a gun held to the head of the American people,” while his top media adviser Dan Pfeiffer has said that they had “a bomb strapped to their chest.”

    When the president insists that the Republican effort to hold up the budget is unprecedented, we automatically deduce that, in fact, the action has many precedents, and on frequent prior occasions was a favored ploy of Democrats to gain leverage over Republican administrations.

    In short, whenever the president prefaces a sweeping statement with one of his many emphatics — “make no mistake about it,” “I’m not making this up,” “in point of fact,” “let me be perfectly clear” — we know that the reverse is always true. For Obama, how something is said matters far more than what is said.
    —Victor Davis Hanson

    And so often, it is just a sting of lies delivered in mediocrity.

  217. Ragspierre says:

    As an example, Issa mentioned the case of “Susanne,” a lawyer whom he said had worked for Democrats on the House Oversight Committee until 2008. His reference is to Susanne Sachsman Grooms, who NRO’s Eliana Johnson has reported joined the IRS in the year President Obama was elected. She served the IRS as an adviser to the deputy commissioner for services and enforcement and then as a senior counselor to the chief of criminal investigations.

    As Johnson has reported: “At the time, the deputy commissioner for services and enforcement — her boss — was none other than Steven Miller, who held the post of IRS commissioner from November 2012 until his resignation in May after the IRS scandal broke.” Grooms herself left the IRS in 2011 to rejoin House Oversight as its chief Democratic counsel. There she advises ranking Democrat Elijah Cummings on how to handle the IRS scandal, which involves the people she used to work with at the IRS. That’s called a conflict of interest, with bells on it.

    Cummings has been very clear where he stands on the IRS scandal. He told CNN last June, just a month after the scandal broke: “Based upon everything I’ve seen the case is solved. And if it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on to be frank with you . . . . [Acting IRS commissioner] Danny Werfel’s doing a great job. I think we’re in great shape.”

    “Great shape?” When the IRS is continuing to slow walk a subpoena on the production of documents it admits are relevant to the investigation? When Chairman Issa has documented what he calls the IRS’s “ongoing obstruction” of his committee’s investigation? And when key IRS witnesses such as Lois Lerner continue to evade testifying? Sounds like what Cummings may have been referring to was the cover-up, and not the investigation.
    —The Corner

    Oh, yeah. Still LOTS to know and many to expose.

  218. Ragspierre says:

    Old and busted: Gun to the head

    New Hotness: Threat

    The new, improved Goodspeak for the Collective.

  219. Ragspierre says:

    No, no…

    It is all that crushing “demand” for DMV health care.

    Yeah. What morons you Collectivists are, and how readily punked.

  220. Ragspierre says:

    “One America can launch rockets. The other America can’t even launch a website.”

    Guess which is the private sector….????

  221. Ragspierre says:

    See, this will work very nicely to teach a lot of people quickly what their government actually thinks of them.

    And a growing spirit of quiet rebellion will ensue.

    Civil disobedience is unstoppable when supported by enough people, and that number need not be very large.

  222. Ragspierre says:

    Oh, no.

    There are Collectivists who are stupid 24/7.

  223. Ragspierre says:

    So much FAIL…

    Were this the private sector, would anyone associated with this still have a job?

  224. Ragspierre says:

    For the first week that the federal health-care exchanges were running … well, crawling … the Obama administration claimed that no one could get through because of overwhelming pent-up demand. Essentially it spent a week arguing that no one could have predicted that, in a country of 300 million people, 2.4 percent of those people might stop by sometime in the first seven days to check out the administration’s signature legislative achievement.

    We can now dismiss that theory, because the administration has: “Six days into the launch of insurance marketplaces created by the new health-care law, the federal government acknowledged for the first time Sunday it needed to fix design and software problems that have kept customers from applying online for coverage.”

    Presumably, it would not have given that interview if its efforts to fix the systems had been successful this weekend. The Hill reports that the system will go offline again late tonight for more repairs.

    So prepare yourself for the next theory: This is the fault of Republicans. Had Republicans created state exchanges as they were supposed to, agreed to the Medicaid expansion and provided more funding, the reasoning goes, everything would be going swimmingly. . . .

    But I do not think that the Republicans can be blamed for this particular disaster. They did not force the administration to wait until late 2011 to begin awarding important contracts for implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Presumably, they were also not skulking around the Department of Health and Human Services, writing the memos that delayed, until February of this year, the deadline for states to declare whether they’d be running their own exchanges.

    I predicted in December 2012 that the exchanges would not be up and running on time with minimal knowledge of how the contracts and budgeting were being run, because the administration was being pretty closed-mouthed about those things. Was I prophetic? Hardly. I just didn’t see how the administration could make things work in the allotted time frame.

    Resistance to a really bad law is not…

    1. futile

    2. sabotage

    3. “terrorism”

    It is just a good idea.

  225. Ragspierre says:

    …the President is willing to negotiate with Republicans — after the threat of government shutdown and default have been removed – over policies that Republicans think would strengthen the country. The President also repeated his willingness to negotiate on priorities that he has identified including policies that expand economic opportunity, support private sector job creation, enhance the competitiveness of American businesses, strengthen the Affordable Care Act and continue to reduce the nation’s deficit.”
    —The Barracula propaganda machine

    See, you cannot “negotiate” with a narcissist.

    They don’t understand the term.

  226. Ragspierre says:

    Artist’s rendering of proposed Obama monument…

  227. Ragspierre says:

    What an AMAZING lie-fest…!!!

    What’s really astounding…???

    Someone WROTE that crap, and thought it would fly.

  228. Ragspierre says:



    Told ya, pwns…

  229. Ragspierre says:

    13 year-old girl calls boyfriend to tell him she’s not talking to him.


  230. Ragspierre says:

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, I think — I think what has changed is they’re aware of the fact that I’m not budging when it comes to the full faith and credit of the United States, that that has to be dealt with, that you don’t d– you don’t pay a ransom, you don’t provide concessions for Congress doing its job and America paying its bills.

    And — and I think most people understand that. I mean, you know, I — I was at a small business the other day and talking to a bunch of workers, and I said, you know, when you’re at the plant and you’re in the middle of your job, do you ever say to your boss, you know what, unless I get a raise right now and more vacation pay, I’m going to just shut down the plant; I’m not going to just walk off the job, I’m going to break the equipment — I said, how do you think that would go?

    They all thought they’d be fired. And I think most of us think that. You know, there’s nothing wrong with asking for a raise or asking for more time off. But you can’t burn down the plant or your office if you don’t get your way. Well, the same thing is true here. And I think most Americans understand that. All right?

    Thank you very much, everybody.

    What. An. Idiot. Liar.

  231. Ragspierre says:

    Which would certainly indicate they held that ol’ mens rea when they were doing it.

  232. Ragspierre says:

    Barack Obama’s job approval numbers have cratered in the shutdown. His overall job approval is now 37/53, and a majority want Obama to start cooperating more with Republicans, as 63% want Republicans to meet Obama part-way, too:

    Americans are holding Republicans primarily responsible for the partial government shutdown [because the Mushroom media sells that meme] as public esteem sinks for all players in the impasse, President Barack Obama among them, according to a new poll. It’s a struggle with no heroes. …

    Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it. Congress is scraping rock bottom, with a ghastly approval rating of 5 percent.

    Indeed, anyone making headlines in the dispute has earned poor marks for his or her trouble, whether it’s Democrat Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, or Republican John Boehner, the House speaker, both with a favorability rating of 18 percent.

    The amusing headline in this instance is “GOP gets the blame in shutdown.” However, the data shows that plenty of blame is being heaped on all sides, by all sides:

    — Sixty-eight percent said the shutdown is a major problem for the country, including majorities of Republicans (58 percent), Democrats (82 percent) and independents (57 percent).

    — Fifty-two percent said Obama is not doing enough to cooperate with Republicans to end the shutdown; 63 percent say Republicans aren’t doing enough to cooperate with him.

    Only 30% approve of raising the debt ceiling, clean or otherwise. And despite the best (that is to say, most malicious) efforts of the National Parks Service, more than 80% have had no impact from the government shutdown.”

    Nobody with a working brain could hear Barracula’s “press conference” yesterday and not be impressed…that he is a lying narcissistic tool.

  233. Ragspierre says:

    Just WHO is it that is “living in the shadows”?

    Illegal aliens hold rally on National Mall.

    National Mall closed to American heroes.

    • Jesse says:

      Because, you silly thing, Obamacare illegalizes illegal aliens!

      They should be knocking on your door any day to appropriate your “property” and to escort you to the FEMA re-education camp, where you will be subject to mandatory abortions and gay marriage. When your re-education is deemed complete by the radical feminazis, the Black Panthers will assign you a position according to your skills – most likely WH dishwasher. By that time Barry Hussein Osama will be on his 4th term.

  234. Ragspierre says:

    So, when government fails, people rationally turn to markets…even for something as elemental as protection from criminals.

    Which begs the question: why turn to government in the first instance as the SOLE source of anything good?

  235. Ragspierre says:

    I was at a small business the other day and talking to a bunch of workers, and I said, you know, when you’re at the plant and you’re in the middle of your job, do you ever say to your boss, you know what, unless I get a raise right now and more vacation pay, I’m going to just shut down the plant; I’m not going to just walk off the job, I’m going to break the equipment — I said, how do you think that would go? They all thought they’d be fired.—Barracula

    WTF…!?!?—Lil’ Dick Trumka

    “The Congress isn’t on strike, dummy”—the rest of America.

  236. Ragspierre says:

    Health and Human Services spokeswoman Joanne Peters said Tuesday the government omitted a window-shopping function because officials first wanted consumers to know the amount of the subsidy they might be eligible for. Those income-based tax credits can dramatically reduce premiums for people with modest incomes, and personal financial information is needed to calculate the subsidies.

    “Our process allows us to show consumers plans with prices that reflect what they will pay with the tax credit they may be eligible for,” Peters said. “Window shopping would not allow for this.”

    The result seemed strange to Maureen Bardusk of Galena, Ill., who’s hesitant about giving her personal information before she can shop.–politics.html

    Yes. It seems strange because it is a lie, front to back.

    There is no inherent need to design the system so that you have to divulge personal information to get any result.

    Matter of fact, you should be able to model several possible scenarios as a matter of course…just like you would in making any buying decision.


  237. Ragspierre says:

    President Obama is set to nominate Janet Yellin as the next chair of the Federal Reserve, the first woman to ever hold the post. The guys on Wall Street will report to a woman as their boss—but that isn’t what’s truly remarkable. For the first time in a generation an actual Democrat will be in charge of monetary policy.
    —The Beastly Day

    What could go wrong…???

  238. Jesse says:

    “And you entertain so, so many…

    That’s true. Tealiban stupidity is very entertaining. Every normal person should keep a couple of them around for sport.

    • Ragspierre says:

      No, you poor, illiterate, lying sack of shit.

      The SUBJECT was YOUR delusions.

      Which are legion. And growing as you feel the earth shifting under your confused feet.


      • Jesse says:

        Agreed. Your delusions ARE legion. And growing as poll after poll demonstrates that the public doesn’t take a very wide stance in supporting Tealiban terrorism.

        • Ragspierre says:

          “There you go again…”

          What a funny, lying moron…!!!

          Which of Obama’s lies yesterday got you all moist? Come on, you can tell us…

  239. Ragspierre says:

    Consider what the poll results would be if we had a working press.

    Obama gave a larf-riot of one stupid, inapposite analogy after another yesterday, and got ZERO questions about his SpiteHouse campaign against the American people, and ZERO questions about the roll-out of what one techie calls “404Care” and what I call ObamaDoggle.

    What an amazing show of lap-doggery…

  240. Ragspierre says:

    As Mark Steyn observes, petty despotism pretty much never stays petty.

    It is never good when a president inspires asshole behavior like we are seeing.

    • Jesse says:

      Tyranny = not getting stuff for free.

      /Tealiban Manifesto

      • Ragspierre says:

        Well, THAT is just flunking stupid AND crazy.

        • Jesse says:

          I agree. The Tealiban IS stupid AND crazy for pretending all of a sudden that it cares about government services, and that such services should be provided for free without funding.

          And for never linking to a “story” that can be verified outside of the Tealiban Collective Bubble.

          • Ragspierre says:

            “…that such services should be provided for free without funding.”

            Wow. MORE stupid and crazy.

            You can’t read anything, stupid. You DO manage to get punked daily by your punk-meisters in hte moonbattery, somehow. I think it has to be by absorption after you swallow whatever they shoot in your mouth or pack up your ass.

            But it could also come from your bung-sucking.

            I try to consider all possibilities.

  241. Ragspierre says:

    Representative Steve Stockman (R., Texas) has already offered an invitation to next year’s State of the Union address to Chad Henderson, who was thought to be one of the first enrollees in the federal Affordable Care Act exchanges and attracted a great deal of press attention for it, before later admitting he did not actually enroll. Stockman described Henderson as “Obamacare personified.”

    “He pushed Obamacare on other people but refused to buy it himself because he would pay more,” Stockman said in a statement. “He’s practically a Democrat member of Congress.”

    Way to turn Alinsky on them…!!!

    HEH and heh!

  242. Jesse says:

    “I just won a bet with a colleague.”

    Haha. “Colleague”. Do the RNC’s poorly paid trolls share cubicle space in Pinehurst now?

  243. Jesse says:

    “There has to be some reason, right?”

    Well, serial adulterers, Sanford and Gingrich are part of the Tealiban Collective. That’s the most likely reason they lie.

    • Ragspierre says:

      You lie.

      And we all know the reason.

      You are a hate-twisted, moronic, bung-sucker for the Collective, and you HAVE to lie to live.

      • Jesse says:

        What’s really funny is that you don’t even know what Sanford and Gingrich were lying about.

        • Ragspierre says:


          It is hi-FLUCKING-larry-0us you think I can or should read your hate-twisted, lying mind.

          But typical of your stupid and your crazy.

  244. Jesse says:

    “[I] swallow whatever they shoot in [my] mouth … or pack up [my] ass.” But it could also come from [my] bung-sucking. I try to consider all possibilities.”

    Yes we are all painfully aware of how much you think about all of the above. But relax, under Obamacare, all of the above will be MANDATORY, and you will be free to be your self. It WILL get better for you, Clownselor!

    • Ragspierre says:

      Still more crazy lies.

      Really, the can do things with new treatment protocols for people like you.

      Just bring in this thread. The professionals will know what they can…and cannot…do to help you.

      • Jesse says:

        It is comical that you think any sane person can or should read your delusional mind.

        The demonstrated fact that you will REACT to literally anything posted on someone else’s shitty blog is typical of your stupid and your crazy. It is also strong evidence that you are paid by the RNC to lie on the internet – such high volume of trolling, uncritical posts.

  245. Ragspierre says:

    Individual citizens COULD do a great deal…

    but, of course, they are prevented by the SpiteHouse.

    You have to be punished, and put in your place for being uppity.

  246. Ragspierre says:

    “For the moment, it’s mostly petty despotism. But despotism rarely stays petty for long.”

    People will either NOT stand for this…

    or they will.

    IF they do, I say, “Let it burn”.

    • Jesse says:

      To the Medicare scooters!!

    • Jesse says:

      If Americans won’t vote for Tealiban policies on the national level, and if the Tealiban cannot get its agenda passed through the democratic process, the Tealiban will burn it down. Comply with the Tealiban’s demands, or the country gets it.

      Terrorism 101

      • Ragspierre says:

        Graduate level madness.

        • Jesse says:

          Right. “Let it burn” because a law you oppose now that the black guy is in favor of it, passed both houses of congress and was signed by the president; was upheld by the supreme court (the chief justice of which, and a majority of its appointees were appointed by republican presidents); and was the central issue in the 2012 campaign (in which you ran the first implementer of the same law) – which you resoundingly lost. Again.

          You can’t win free and fair elections on the national level; and you can’t enact your agenda through the democratic process.

          So, you call for civil war.

  247. Ragspierre says:

    What impact on the American tourism industry has the SpiteHouse Anschluss on the parks system had?

    It will be interesting to see the numbers.

    • Ragspierre says:

      The fundamental lie, of course, is that defunding ObamaDoggle is even on the table anymore.

      Did you say something about “uncritical” you bung-sucker…???

      Our position is Senator Obama’s position.


  248. Ragspierre says:

    How interesting.

    After all that demonetization and bullshit, Americans LIKE TEA party positions.


  249. Ragspierre says:

    Finally, Obama’s near daily commentaries are utterly incoherent. Well aside from hokey similes, almost everything he says is demonstrably untrue.

    He himself overturned “settled law” by nullifying key parts of his own signature legislation, such as the employer mandate.

    He calls for bipartisanship but proved entirely partisan in ramming through the ACA without a single Republican vote.

    He and his associates call for civility but use the terrorist/anarchist/deadbeat/blackmail metaphors non-stop; when he is not trashing Republicans, Obama is talking down financial markets.

    He cites a unique and dangerous precedent, but knows that the government has been shut down lots of times (by Democrats no less) in the past over similar differences on spending.

    He brags that deficits are coming down, but knows (as is the case of increased gas and oil production) that is true only despite not because of his efforts, and due mostly to the prior debate over the debt ceiling that ushered in sequestration.

    And he knows that no one was more eloquent in voicing the current Republican position on the debt ceiling than he was as a senator in 2006 when the debt was $8 trillion less than it is now. Given all that, his bully pulpit has proven mostly pathetic.
    —VDH at The Corner

    EXactly true.

  250. Jesse says:


    “While Democrats refuse to negotiate on the continuing resolution and the debt limit, apparently assuming the GOP will eventually cave, House Republicans insist they are prepared to bring borrowing authority to a screeching halt.

    “I can assure you it’s not posturing. It’s not a political play or anything like that,” Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., told CQ Roll Call on Tuesday.

    Gingrey said Republicans were “absolutely” prepared to lose the House to extract concessions on the CR and the debt limit, and he said the White House is “missing the determination of the Republican Party.”

    “I mean, they seem to think that we will miss this opportunity for a ‘Braveheart’ moment to do the right thing for the American people and that we’ll back down for fear of losing the House and not gaining control of the Senate,” Gingrey said.

    ““I can assure you it’s not posturing. It’s not a political play or anything like that,” Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., told CQ Roll Call on Tuesday.

    Gingrey said Republicans were “absolutely” prepared to lose the House to extract concessions on the CR and the debt limit, and he said the White House is “missing the determination of the Republican Party.”

    “I mean, they seem to think that we will miss this opportunity for a ‘Braveheart’ moment to do the right thing for the American people and that we’ll back down for fear of losing the House and not gaining control of the Senate,” Gingrey said.”

    FREEEDUMB!!!!! To the Medicare scooters!


    It might be fun to watch the Tealiban achieve a William Wallace ending, though. 🙂

    • Ragspierre says:

      Barracula’s ratings are below BOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooosh’s at this point.

      And anybody who can hear, has heard him refuse to work with Congress UNTIL they surrender.

      “Churchill Refuses Herr Hitler’s Olive Branch”.

      What. A. Bung. Sucker.

      • Jesse says:

        Oh dear, the President might not get reelected in 2016!

        • Ragspierre says:

          Yep. Pretty much guaranteed.

          AND increasingly DECREASING chances any Collectivist will have a chance, too, also.

          You moronic lil’ totalitarian puke.

  251. Ragspierre says:

    Top Internal Revenue Service Obamacare official Sarah Hall Ingram discussed confidential taxpayer information with senior Obama White House officials, according to 2012 emails obtained by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and provided to The Daily Caller.

    Lois Lerner, then head of the IRS Tax Exempt Organizations division, also received an email alongside White House officials that contained confidential information.

    So, now we know.

  252. Jesse says:

    Portfolio managers at Fidelity Investments have been selling off their government debt holdings over the last couple of weeks, said Nancy Prior, president of Fidelity’s Money Market Group. While Fidelity expects the debt ceiling issue to be resolved, the Boston-based asset manager said it is taking steps to protect investors.

    The market speaking ….

    But Clownspierre told me [wingnuttery].

  253. Ragspierre says:

    Damn BIG BUSINESS won’t buffalo when Barracula does his best to panic them…

  254. Ragspierre says:

    The AP-GFK poll just released found Republicans being blamed more than Democrats, but also found Obama’s job approval tanking. A Pew Survey released a couple of days ago also found Republicans blamed more but by a closer margin, and that there is a large and growing segment who blames both sides or neither.

    Here’s a headline, based on the data in the AP-GfK poll, you probably will not see:

    Americans overwhelmingly would choose smaller government, fewer services

    Yeah, you heard that right. 60% of those surveyed wanted smaller government, fewer services if the only other choice were bigger government, more services. That core value, which transcends party lines, is the Tea Party core value (not even the Republican core value).

    And we don’t bastardize the word “freedom”, nor do we forgive government-by-malice from Hateful Harry and Barracula.

  255. Ragspierre says:

    Boy, I bet you are just outraged…like Barracula was “outraged”…to learn about this.

    Huh…? Right…?

  256. Ragspierre says:

    Most Americans agree with Tea Party on debt ceiling increase

    You read that right. 41% of those surveyed said the debt ceiling should be raised only if conditioned on significant budget cuts plus another 10% who said it should not be raised for any reason.

    Oh, and less than 20% of actual Republicans (and I am not a Republican) say GOP leaders are paying too much attention to the TEA party.

    Which shows you are the lunatic fringe, you hate-twisted, bung-sucker for the Collective.

  257. Ragspierre says:

    Today, Washington, D.C., mayor Vince Gray and D.C. House delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton crashed a news conference being held by Senate majority leader Harry Reid on the Capitol steps.

    Reid didn’t appreciate the company. As Gray leaned into Reid and demanded federal money start flowing so the District can pay its bills, Reid responded, “I’m on your side. Don’t screw this up.”

    Reid was probably nervous because at the mayor’s earlier news conference, Gray had stood next to Republican congressman Darrell Issa as he criticized the Democratic-led Senate for holding up the District spending bill, which has already passed the House.

    “Every worker and every citizen of the District of Columbia needs to be counted as essential,” Issa said.

    The last thing Harry Reid wants are prominent African-American Democrats demanding he follow the precedent the Senate set last week by funding a stand-alone bill for Pentagon spending by picking another part of the government they want to fund separately. Anything that undercuts Reid’s argument that individual spending bills are illegitimate makes his position harder to sell to a shutdown-weary public.

    Heh. And DOUBLE HEH!

    • Ragspierre says:

      All speech has consequences, moron.

      And freedom is not license. (I know you are too stupid to understand, so don’t strain your “brain”)

      Grayson SHOULD be silenced when he violates the rules.

      Right, you pathetic piece of shit liar?

      • Ragspierre says:

        See, a violation of the First Amendment happens when you threaten to criminalize saying mass for military personnel.

        Like Barracula is doing.

        You totalitarian, lying phuc.

      • Jesse says:

        Such an authoritarian. You hate the first amendment.

      • Jesse says:

        Remember when The Quitter’s first amendment rights were violated by media criticism?

      • Jesse says:

        I see. So “the rules” trump the first amendment in every case.

        Good little black shirt.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Your pathetic efforts are…well…comical.

          In the House, yeah, RULES DO kinda trump the First Amendment in some limited ways, you moron.

          Funny, though, you CAN pray in the House. Contra a lot of service members under Barracula. Odd, yes?

          • Jesse says:

            Funny – you are always so slavishly devoted to “the rules” in lieu of the constitution whenever it suits you. The Tealiban wants a nation of men (them) over all others. They despise neutral, and equal application of laws.

          • Ragspierre says:

            OK. All members of the House should speak ad hoc.

            What a pathetic moron.

  258. Ragspierre says:

    The Obama administration insisted Tuesday it had no choice but to withhold death benefits to relatives of 1st Lt. Jennifer Moreno, a 25-year-old soldier born and raised in San Diego, and four other soldiers killed since the partial government shutdown began Oct. 1.

    This is ridiculous and perverse. President Barack Obama has used an expansive — and some legal scholars believe extreme — interpretation of his powers to unilaterally rewrite key provisions of the No Child Left Behind law, the sweeping 2002 measure that drastically reshaped federal education policies. In similar fashion, the president has unilaterally rewritten key provisions of the Affordable Care Act, his sweeping 2010 measure that is drastically reshaping federal public health policies. His administration has also essentially rewritten federal laws governing illegal immigration and penalties for drug possession.

    Just this month, the federal government has authorized the spending of billions of dollars since the partial shutdown began without explicit congressional approval. . . . It is an appalling commentary on the president and his administration that they chose to bully the families of dead American soldiers for perceived political gain.

    Shame on Barack Obama.

    Yep. Assholic posturing is not going unnoticed.

    Oh, and just what they mean when the Collective talks about “supporting our troops”.

    LOVE the optics here.

  259. Ragspierre says:

    The thing we can do, I suppose, is get serious about starting a real movement to repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the IRS. Let Washington live on whatever it can raise with excise taxes — and fuck’em if they can’t.


  260. Ragspierre says:

    Hey, “Jesse”…

  261. Ragspierre says:

    The Park Service told Claude Moore Colonial Farm to shut down.

    The farm’s administrators appealed this directive​—​they explained that the Park Service doesn’t actually do anything for the historic site. The folks at the NPS were unmoved. And so, last week, the National Park Service found the scratch to send officers to the park to forcibly remove both volunteer workers and visitors.

    Think about that for a minute. The Park Service, which is supposed to serve the public by administering parks, is now in the business of forcing parks they don’t administer to close. As Homer Simpson famously asked, did we lose a war?
    —Jonathan Last

    “Gangster Government For The Little People”.

    Did we lose a war…??? No. We let Collectivists have power.

  262. Jesse says:

    Even the good people of Utah are racist against the Tealiban.

    Skewed polls!

    • Ragspierre says:

      So much stupid, so early.

      Did you get to work extra early so you could troll?

      Let’s see how people feel about Lee at election time, hmmmm….

    • Ragspierre says:

      Think you’ll find that about the same percentage of people want Barracula to come off his imperial high chair and compromise, too, moron.

      • Jesse says:

        He already has compromised, liar.

      • Ragspierre says:

        …the President is willing to negotiate with Republicans — after the threat of government shutdown and default have been removed – over policies that Republicans think would strengthen the country. The President also repeated his willingness to negotiate on priorities that he has identified including policies that expand economic opportunity, support private sector job creation, enhance the competitiveness of American businesses, strengthen the Affordable Care Act and continue to reduce the nation’s deficit.”
        —The Barracula propaganda machine

        See, you cannot “negotiate” with a narcissist.

        They don’t understand the term.

        (And you cannot manage to tell the truth.)

  263. Ragspierre says:

    But THAT is UNPOSSIBLE…!!!

    Our buddies at the Collective tell us all the time that charities cannot do stuff like the government can.

    Maybe they meant kicking you out of Yellowstone at gunpoint…

  264. Ragspierre says:

    It what looks like a spiteful move, the NPS even removed handles from water spigots along the Chesapeake and Ohio canal where bikers and joggers exercise as well as along the Great Allegheny Passage, just to ensure people don’t get any water from them.

    Instead of saving money, the NPS is expending additional resources to go out of its way to close such locations and to make people miserable.

    Fine. This will spark a movement to return Federal land to the states, where it belongs anyway under the Constitution.

  265. Jesse says:

    Is 2008 Tea Party candidate for president, John “Crash” McCain lying?

  266. Ragspierre says:

    Yep, Barracula and the Collective…showing their “support” for the troops.

    LOVE IT when liars come out of cover.

  267. Ragspierre says:

    What’s the moonbattery packing up your butt today about the wonders of ObamaDoggle, moron?

  268. Ragspierre says:

    Heh! I don’t think many people are willing to eat this shit from the poor, broken child.

  269. Ragspierre says:

    When asked specifically whether the government should be able to require all Americans to buy insurance or face a fine, only about 3 in 10 Americans agreed, and 68 percent were opposed.
    —AP poll

    Well, see, only about that percentage in the U.S. are Collectivists, who are…

    1. authoritarian, and

    2. totalitarian, and

    3. punitive, AND

    4. delusional (it is required), AND

    5. stupid…this kind of crap has NEVER worked in all the iterations that have been tried.

    Conversely, MARKETS work any time you let them.

  270. Jesse says:

    LOL look at all of these links that have no relevance outside of the Borg bubble.

    No wonder the Tealiban think they have won the hearts and minds. All they consume is their own propaganda.

    • Ragspierre says:

      You poor thing. You really are demented.

      There is no such thing as a Tealiban.

      There is no such thing as the Borg (it is a science fiction thingy.)

      And you are trapped in your own Collectivist bubble (which is very real on both counts).

      ***When asked specifically whether the government should be able to require all Americans to buy insurance or face a fine, only about 3 in 10 Americans agreed, and 68 percent were opposed.***
      —AP poll


      Yeh. Keep chanting that to yourself, you poor, hate-twisted, lying sack of shit.

  271. Ragspierre says:

    “You know that if the president is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress. I mean, he’s ignored them, he’s attacked them, he’s blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy.”
    —Mit Romney

    Weak as he was, was he right about everything he said?

  272. Jesse says:

    More Tealiban winning:

    “WASHINGTON — WASHINGTON (AP) — GOP aides say House Speaker John Boehner will ask House Republicans to approve a short-term extension of the government’s ability to borrow to meet its bills.

    The Ohio Republican is slated to urge his staunchly conservative GOP colleagues to act before the government runs out of borrowing authority next week.

    Republicans have been insistent that budget cuts and other measures be added to the so-called debt ceiling legislation but the aides wouldn’t say whether he’ll seek to add other material to the measure.

    The aides required anonymity to reveal the information before Boehner makes an announcement after a closed-door meeting with his GOP colleagues.”

    But but but, parks and other government services we’re pretending to give a shit about were shutdown. Well, not shutdown – slimmed down. Ok, shut down, but its no big deal. Ok, its a big deal, but it’s Obama’s fault.

    Or whatever gibberish passes for Tealiban argument today.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Well, those voices keep calling from far away, don’t they, crazy.

      And you imagine this was a “win” for Barracula, and we won’t be here again?

      True madness.

      • Jesse says:

        No, you’re right. As long as terrorists are in charge of the House, we’ll keep facing government by crisis. It would be best to put ALL Tealiban terrorists in Gitmo. We’ll let you stay in a FEMA camp though for re-education.

        • Ragspierre says:

          Yeah, really, hold your breath.

          We need fewer crazy lovers of dictatorial power.

          • Jesse says:

            That’s my point. We achieve this by rounding up the Tealiban terrorists.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Go for it, Brittany.

            You should hunt down all the “Tealiban”.

            And the “terrorists”.

            But you have to hold your breath while you do.


  273. Ragspierre says:

    Mike Lee points out…

    1. the central government already has too much power

    2. they are not bashful about using their power against the governed to whip them into line

    3. the bureaucracy has been subverted to the use on the party of BIG GOVERNMENT

    4. ObamaDoggle will be used to crush opposition by individuals, using the corrupt IRS and HHS.

  274. Ragspierre says:

    In front of the cameras, Speaker John Boehner has sold his decision to embrace a short-term debt ceiling extension as meeting President Obama “half way.” But the origin of the plan suggets it’s more ambitious than it is modest.

    “I actually proposed this idea to Eric Cantor two days ago,” Idaho representative Raul Labrador tells me. “I was seeing that the two issues” — the continuing resolution and the debt ceiling – ”were being conflated, that they were all coming together . . . I wanted to make sure that we separated the two issues so we could continue to fight on Obamacare on the CR and continue to fight on entitlement reform on the debt ceiling,” he adds.

    Seen that way, the decision is not about giving ground but simply delaying one fight to dig in on the other. Labrador and the other conservatives who championed it in recent days, including Heritage Action’s president Michael Needham and RedState founder Erick Erickson, want to achieve an Obamacare victory on the CR and then an entitlement-reform victory on the debt ceiling. In the meeting, Labrador spoke in favor of the plan, as did Representative Michele Bachmann.

    Watch and see…

  275. Ragspierre says:

    “Can you think of anything in history of the web that was worse?”

    Well, no. To screw up THIS big, you need BIG GOVERNMENT.

    Also, a system budgeted for less than $100 million REPORTEDLY cost over six times that.

    So, a bellwether for the ACTUAL costs of ObamaDoggle…???

  276. Ragspierre says:

    Now, Speaker John Boehner has to convince his rank-and-file members to get on board, in which case there might be a floor vote on the measure later Thursday. It remains to be seen if the ***seditious conservatives*** in the House will agree to make the offer, or whether President Obama, who has insisted on a full solution to the government shutdown, will be tempted to accept it.—The Beastly Day

    OK. Call that bluff. BRING “sedition” charges against the Conservatives in Congress.

    Let’s have a VERY public trial.

  277. Ragspierre says:

    The famously wry McCain, R-Ariz., said he regretted calling the Tea Party wing of the Republican Senate conference “wacko birds” during budget negotiations, saying he’s learned to “never get personal” in political disputes.

    But McCain remains worried about the growing number of Republicans attacking members of their own party.

    “I do worry about the Republican Party,” he said at the Hero Summit hosted by The Daily Beast. “It’s the first time I have ever seen Republican senators running ads, raising money that is being used to attack incumbent Republican senators.”

    Nope, McAnus. You screwed the pooch. You are dead to me.

    (Actually, you were dead with McAnus-Fiengold.)

  278. Ragspierre says:

    Why do Collectivists LOVE monopoly…and ESPECIALLY compulsory monopoly…???

    Oh. Wait…

  279. Jesse says:

    Haha, the House Tealiban rigged the rules in the dead of night to ensure a shutdown.

    Knowing that their propaganda wing would dutifully inform the collective that it’s all Obama’s fault.

    Somehow, I don’t think that the FACTS about the rule change found their way in to the Tealiban bubble. The collectivists therein wouldn’t believe them anyway – facts have a well known liberal bias.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Ha-ha, you are such a bung-sucking Collectivist tool…

      …the President is willing to negotiate with Republicans — after the threat of government shutdown and default have been removed – over policies that Republicans think would strengthen the country. The President also repeated his willingness to negotiate on priorities that he has identified including policies that expand economic opportunity, support private sector job creation, enhance the competitiveness of American businesses, strengthen the Affordable Care Act and continue to reduce the nation’s deficit.”
      —The Barracula propaganda machine

      See, you cannot “negotiate” with a narcissist.

      They don’t understand the term.

      (And you cannot manage to tell the truth.)

      • Jesse says:

        Annnnd massive misdirection and deflection away from the FACT that the House Tealiban deliberately changed the rules in order to ensure a shutdown. And then lied about the cause – which you dutifully and uncritically parrot. Your collective can always count on you doing what you’re told.

        • Ragspierre says:

          But you are a liar, and your every post is riddled with lies.

          See, there is a cost to your conduct, moron.

          • Jesse says:

            I see. So the House Tealiban DIDN’T change the rules so that only the Majority Leader or his designee can offer bills for a vote on the floor, thereby guaranteeing a shutdown.

            Ah, the stench of Tealiban delusion.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Oh, dear…

            Have I failed to read your mind…AGAIN.

            (and thank God)

            You’re pathetic.

  280. Ragspierre says:


    Interesting, no? Did you know that “Jesse”?

    Why, of course you did, because you always “trust but verify”, right…

    you lying sack of shit???

    • Jesse says:

      Unskewed polls!!!!

      RMoney is getting HUGE crowds in Western PA!!!


    • Jesse says:

      Mainstream GOP leadership must be disabused of its hate for the Tealiban!

      To the Medicare scooters!!!

      • Ragspierre says:

        There you go.

        You just slavishly endorse any poll you like, and refuse to investigate when I rub your nose in evidence it MAY have been a lil’ bit dubious.

        Then you go off on a tear about Establishment Republicans not being in love with the TEA party…because you’re too stupid to know that the TEA party is a reaction to BOTH political-class establishments.

        What a moron.

        • Jesse says:

          “MAY have been a lil’ bit dubious.”

          Or more accurately – completely consistent with the all of the other polling showing the Tealiban falling off a cliff in popularity. Which you should have learned after the 2012 election. But our wingnuts isn’t learning, is they?

          But none of this matters. The Tealiban is WINNING! Which is why they are on the road to caving on the shutdown and the debt limit.

          • Ragspierre says:

            You read that right. 41% of those surveyed said the debt ceiling should be raised only if conditioned on significant budget cuts plus another 10% who said it should not be raised for any reason.

            And only less than 30% think people should be compelled to buy “insurance”.

            Despite your Collectivist bullshit rant.

  281. Ragspierre says:

    But of course. It isn’t about health care. It IS about control. And who controls your information controls you.

    Oh, and we just KNOW we can trust our friends at the IRS, NSA, HHS, etc.


  282. Ragspierre says:

    Conover addresses these foundational lies as five deceptions:

    Deception #1: universal coverage

    Deception #2: no new taxes on the middle class

    Deception #3: annual premium savings of $2,500

    Deception #4: no increase in the deficit

    Deception #5: you can keep your plan if you like it

    Conover exposes these “deceptions” as blatant falsehoods. In their own way the willfulness and magnitude of the falsehoods with which Obama sold Obamacare are shocking. We’ve become inured to it, but it is true.

    This is my refrain: If only we had a free press, Obamacare would be a bloody, unrelenting scandal, like Abu Ghraib, or Watergate. As it is, it is only business as usual for liberals and liberalism.

    • Jesse says:

      If only the media reported what the voices in your head were saying, we’d ALLLL see the wisdom of the Tealiban terrorists!

      • Ragspierre says:

        Which of those five deceptions is a “voice in my head”, you lying sack of shit?

        There is no such thing as a “Tealiban” you poor, demented Collectivist bung-sucker.

        And people with whom you disagree are not “terrorists” you fringe Kos-sack (‘o shit) hater.

  283. Ragspierre says:

    When you have a “law” that is predicated on a pack of lies…

    is 2000+ pages of kludge written mostly by lobbyists (look it up, moron)…

    which NOBODY who voted on it had any time to read…

    and which was passed in a fundamentally unconstitutional process…

    how is that “democratic process”?

    • Jesse says:


      We’re still waiting for your evidence of “pack of lies”.

      We’re still waiting for your evidence of a “fundamentally unconstitutional process”.

      Which we know you’ll never produce. Because its always someone else’s job to sift through the rank Tealiban propaganda for “information”.

      • Ragspierre says:


        Crazy, lying piece of shit.

        • Jesse says:

          You’re right. No one else reads this shitty blog.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Oh, I wouldn’t bet on that.

            Nobody believes anything you say, from your demonstrated inability to step up to even obvious truths.

            So, no “we” is expecting me to play your one-trick phony game…

            only demented YOU.


  284. Jesse says:

    “Have I failed to read your mind…AGAIN.”

    No. You failed to do your own investigation of the facts. Again. Because facts do not penetrate the Tealiban bubble.

  285. Jesse says:

    “You read that right. 41% of those surveyed said the debt ceiling should be raised only if conditioned on significant budget cuts plus another 10% who said it should not be raised for any reason.
    And only less than 30% think people should be compelled to buy “insurance”.

    Great. Keep obsessing over that, and keep losing national elections.

  286. Jesse says:

    “So predictable.
    So brainwashed.
    So stupid.”

    Agreed. 3 good descriptors for you and the Tealiban cultists. You were promised repeal and / or defunding of Obamacare.

    Wha happen?

    • Ragspierre says:

      “You were promised repeal and / or defunding of Obamacare.”

      More lies.

      Whenever you post, you just post lies.

      And you are crazy enough to believe at least some of the bullshit you write.

      Amazing what dementia can do.

  287. Ragspierre says:

    Tough toenails, right “Jesse”?

    Eggs have to be broken…all that…for the greater glory of Barracula and his “transformed” Amerika.

  288. Ragspierre says:

    States and private entities have been hurt by their gangster government.

    Showing the Obami give shit-all over states rights, American small business and individuals.

    Excellent outcome, if nothing else happens.

  289. Ragspierre says:

    Which of these is closer to your own view of President Obama’s actions and positions during the current budget disagreement?

    Majority say he’s putting his own political agenda ahead of the good of the country.

    NBC poll.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Did you wet your pants in sympathy hysterics, Brittany.

      I bet you are scared of other power tools, too.

  290. Ragspierre says:

    Sebelius and Steelers Chairman Dan Rooney were at an enrollment and education event on Thursday at Heinz Field to promote, but people who showed up encountered problems in signing up for coverage on the website…

    Sebelius, who is making similar trips to cities across the country to spread the word about the website,

    ***told the audience of about 100 people that was “open for business…”***

    Asked about the ongoing problems with the website and the fact that people at a government enrollment event couldn’t sign up, Sebelius told reporters that she didn’t know what problems were affecting service at Heinz Field…

    “We’re working to ensure it’s easy to use,” Sebelius said, noting that more than 13 million people have visited the site, an “extraordinary” level of traffic.

    100 people. In Pittsburg. A Steelers sponsored event.


    And, being a facile liar is a necessary qualification to being an Obami.

    Or a Collectivist.

  291. Ragspierre says:

    It’s true that Obama gets the best numbers, but that’s damning by faint praise in this poll. His strongest suit — likeability — is now down to 49/47, and it’s the only positive in the group. Majorities now reject the idea that Obama is honest (44/52), reasonable (43/53), strong (41/54), or decisive (a whopping 38/58). His previous status of being an inspirational leader has declined to 42/54.

    Obama looks stronger than he is in comparison to everyone else. Democrats and Republicans score much lower on all of these attributes, but Republicans easily score the lowest. They’re about even on strength — 31/64 Dems, 30/66 GOP — but on the rest, Republicans score 10 or more points below Democrats. On being reasonable, Democrats get 33% to the GOP’s 20%.

    Which is exactly what one would predict with the Mushroom Media acting as the propaganda arm of the Collective.

  292. Jesse says:

    “Nobody believes anything you say, from your demonstrated inability to step up to even obvious truths.”

    Haha, yeah those “obvious truths” that you can never support by empirical proof, and are flatly contrary to demonstrable fact, but which you uncritically parrot.

    Scream a little louder, Clownselor.

    • Ragspierre says:

      You are the brainless myrridon who declared that bad code and overwhelming demand were “a distinction without a difference”, you pathetic, lying moronic bung-sucker for your Collective.

      And the one who declares that ObamaDoggle offers “universal care”.

      It doesn’t even offer universal COVERAGE, you idiot.

      • Flynn says:

        So still empirical proof in support of those so called “obvious truths”. Summary judgment in Jesse’s favor.

        • Flynn says:

          No empirical proof, rather ….

          And Rule 11(b)(3) sanctions for knowingly having no evidentiary support for any factual contentions, even after having ample time for investigation.

  293. Ragspierre says:

    Doctor Ben Carson pointedly attacked Obamacare today, comparing it to slavery.

    “Obamacare is really the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” he said during his speech at the Value Voters Summit. “

    “It is slavery in a way,” he continued, “because it is making all of us subservenient to the government.”

    Carson, a retired neurosurgeon, became well-known after he gave a speech against political correctness and government-controlled health-care at the National Prayer Breakfast this year.

    After he dared question Barracula, he was audited for the first time ever by the IRS.

    Which is just a thug arm now of the Collective.

  294. Ragspierre says:

    The initial refusal to pay benefits, however, was wholly consistent with the tactics used by the administration throughout its budget battle with members of Congress who want to pull the plug on Obamacare. From its unnecessary lockdown of the World War II Memorial in the nation’s capital to its efforts to limit access to national treasures like Mount Rushmore and Yellowstone Park, the executive branch has set out to try to inflict as much pain as possible on the American people so they will pressure Congress to give the president what he wants to end the government shutdown.
    The administration seems committed to pursuing its “maximum pain” strategy as long as it’s politically tenable. At the Thursday White House press conference, Jay Carney still was arguing against the death-benefits relief bill, saying it was “not necessary” for the president to sign the bill since the Fisher House — a private charity — had stepped up with an offer to pay the benefit.
    President Obama obviously changed his mind late Thursday as the public-relations damage from his stance continued to mount. But will signing a bill that should never have been needed get the president off the hook?

    See, “Jesse”? Nobody is fooled here, unless they…like you…volunteer to be fools.

  295. Ragspierre says:

    “The Berlin Blockade woke up Americans to what the Soviet Union really was. The Obama Blockade is waking up Americans affected by it to what Obama really is.

    Behind the big ideas and the big speeches is a meanness and smallness of spirit that desires power above all else, that lacks any sense of decency and honor, and that when denied, lashes out viciously against anyone in the grip of its power. r.

    The Berlin Blockade showed millions of people why they never wanted to find themselves under Communist control. It ended what might have become a recurrence of isolationism and firmed the conviction of Americans that the only way to deal with the Soviet Union was to push it back.

    The Obama Blockade, the meanness and pettiness in its needless power plays, is a warning of what life will be like if the left gains even more control over America.”
    –Daniel Greenfield


    Same impulse. Just a lil’ softer.

  296. Ragspierre says:

    Yes. Yes, it HAS.

    And it is WONDERFUL to have the Collective out in their full totalitarians, authoritarian plumage…!!!


  297. Ragspierre says:

    The last major network and application rollout I did cost the company I did it for about 100k. It took me, working alone, about three months to roll out. It routinely handled millions of fairly expensive (CPU wise) transactions, not just hits, per day. It was a mission critical setup, the outage of which would have cost the company millions in advertising revenue per day.

    Never had a single issue.

    That’s what happens when a competent manager hires a competent consultant. E.g. the exact polar opposite of everything government.

    Well, yes.

    Why does She’s-bilious still have a job?

    Oh, yeah! Because she is a good liar and tyrant. Her ACTUAL job.

  298. Ragspierre says:

    But some morons in the Collective remain DEEPLY confused.

    Or they just lie.

    Or both, actually.

  299. Ragspierre says:

    Yes, because the SpiteHouse actually HATES the people, and ESPECIALLY the entrepreneurial people in small businesses.

    The fascist economic model Barracula prefers LOVES BIG, compliant business. Much, much easier to control and crony-fie.

  300. Ragspierre says:

    If a government shuts down in the forest, and nobody hears it, that’s the sound of liberty dying. The so-called shutdown, as noted last week, is mostly baloney: 83 percent of the supposedly defunded government is carrying on as usual, impervious to whatever restraints the people’s representatives might wish to impose, and the 800,000 soi-disant “nonessential” workers have been assured that, as soon as the government is once again lawfully funded, they will be paid in full for all the days they’ve had at home.

    But the one place where a full-scale shutdown is being enforced is in America’s alleged “National Park Service,” a term of art that covers everything from canyons and glaciers to war memorials and historic taverns. The NPS has spent the past two weeks behaving as the paramilitary wing of the DNC, expending more resources in trying to close down open-air, unfenced areas than it would normally do in keeping them open. It began with the war memorials on the National Mall – that’s to say, stone monuments on pieces of grass under blue sky. It’s the equivalent of my New Hampshire town government shutting down and deciding, therefore, to ring the Civil War statue on the village common with yellow police tape and barricades.

    Still, the NPS could at least argue that these monuments were within their jurisdiction – although they shouldn’t be. Not content with that, the NPS shock troops then moved on to insisting that privately run sites such as the Claude Moore Colonial Farm and privately owned sites such as Mount Vernon were also required to shut. When the Pisgah Inn on the Blue Ridge Parkway declined to comply with the government’s order to close (an entirely illegal order, by the way), the “shut down” Park Service sent armed agents and vehicles to blockade the hotel’s driveway.
    —Mark Steyn

    Oh, and there WILL be lawsuits, and the Feds WILL lose some of them…

    and we will pay the damages.

    But this governance-by-malice exercise was WONDERFULLY instructive, and well worth the shut-down.

  301. Ragspierre says:

    “At the Vietnam Memorial two park ranger goons stood at the entrance to the wall, near the requisite barricades. The intention clearly was to intimidate people from entering the memorial area. Fortunately, many people simply ignored Barry’s Brownshirts and walked down to the wall. My wife Thuy, who was born in Vietnam, accompanied me (photo above left).

    These people in DC are dangerous, and we the people need to stand up to these attempts to intimidate and abuse us.”

    A beeee-u-TEA-ful seniment…

    and one shared by any of us who will not be slaves to their bloated, corrupt government.

  302. Ragspierre says:

    But again, cynicism and disgust seem entirely appropriate responses. Ronald Reagan was the last president who had a basic skepticism of Big Government, but Barack Obama may end up having done more than any of his predecessors to promote that feeling among the public.
    —Taranto at the WSJ

    Well, yeah. We know already he is teh WON when it comes to boosting gun sales and NRA membership.

    AND he can claim a LOT of credit for the TEA party movement!

  303. Ragspierre says:

    Yah? Right back atcha!

    How long are you going to last if we just say, NO?

  304. Ragspierre says:

    The administration’s war on leaks and other efforts to control information are the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration, when I was one of the editors involved in The Washington Post’s investigation of Watergate. The 30 experienced Washington journalists at a variety of news organizations whom I interviewed for this report could not remember any precedent.


    “The Bush administration had a worse reputation,” said Marcus Brauchli, Downie’s immediate successor as executive editor of The Washington Post, “but, in practice, it was much more accepting of the role of journalism in national security.”

    Whatever it is, Barracula made it worse.

    Worse that Nixon…!!! He’s number one, he’s number one…

  305. Ragspierre says:

    “Of course I’m tempted” to sign those bills, Obama explained. “But here’s the problem. What you’ve seen are bills that come up wherever Republicans are feeling political pressure, they put a bill forward. And if there’s no political heat, if there’s no television story on it, then nothing happens.”

    Obama’s answer dragged on, as all of Obama’s answers do. But the point was made. For the first time in American history, a president confessed to deliberately hurting his country to score points against his enemies.

    Which brings us to the national disgrace this week in which the Department of Defense denied death benefits to the families of fallen service members.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney insists, with operatic righteousness, that Obama never intended for the 26 families of the fallen to be denied this aid or to be hindered from retrieving their beloveds’ remains from Dover Air Force Base.

    But Carney is surely lying — and the evidence isn’t simply that his lips are moving.

    Carney defends the administration by noting that the Pentagon warned Congress in late September that the shutdown would prevent the payments from going out.

    But Congress passed the Pay Our Military Act to fund the military through the shutdown. Administration officials first stonewalled Congress’s efforts for clarity on the issue, then the lawyers eventually determined that because the act didn’t specifically include the word “benefits,” they couldn’t err on the side of helping grieving families.

    In other words, when asked to make a judgment call, and knowing that Congress wanted the benefits paid, this administration still claimed its hands were tied by the fine print. Given how often the White House routinely ignores the plain meaning of the law — and the will of Congress — when it suits its political agenda, logic dictates that it denied the benefits on purpose.

    Moreover, by its own account, the White House says it knew for weeks this would happen. During all the back-and-forth, the White House did nothing to remedy the situation. It only sprang into outraged action when suddenly faced with a PR nightmare.
    —Jonah Goldberg

    Yep. Barracula and Hateful Harry hold both the American people and the law in contempt.

    Collectivists are like that.

  306. Ragspierre says:

    Byron York@ByronYork
    In NYT, insurer criticizes Obamacare anonymously, ‘saying he did not wish to alienate the federal officials with whom he works.’


    Byron York@ByronYork
    Yest in WaPo, insurer criticized Obamacare anonymously, ‘to avoid antagonizing the Obama administration.’


  307. Ragspierre says:

    Byron York@ByronYork
    After huge expenditures, will require massive, expensive retooling. Bottom line: Obamacare could be defunding itself.

    Exactly as predicted.

    DMV-level performance, massive spending, unprecedented intrusions into Americans’ freedoms, lies in the passage, and hidden realities only to be discovered on implementation.

    All administered by the thugs at IRS and HHS.

  308. Ragspierre says:

    “These are not glitches,” said an insurance executive who has participated in many conference calls on the federal exchange. Like many people interviewed for this article, the executive spoke on the condition of anonymity, saying he did not wish to alienate the federal officials with whom he works. “The extent of the problems is pretty enormous. At the end of our calls, people say, ‘It’s awful, just awful.’ ”

    Interviews with two dozen contractors, current and former government officials, insurance executives and consumer advocates, as well as an examination of confidential administration documents, point to a series of missteps — financial, technical and managerial — that led to the troubles.

    Politics made things worse. To avoid giving ammunition to Republicans opposed to the project, the administration put off issuing several major rules until after last November’s elections. The Republican-controlled House blocked funds. More than 30 states refused to set up their own exchanges, requiring the federal government to vastly expand its project in unexpected ways.

    Yep. Just like I said.

    It wasn’t “demand”.

    It wasn’t even traffic.

    It WAS bad code, bad design, AND it was POLITICS.

    With Barracula, EVERYTHING is about politics. Not principles. Politics.

  309. Ragspierre says:

    You just don’t treat veterans like dog shit.

    They know how to say no, and act on it.

  310. Ragspierre says:

    People whose 2014 income will be a little too high to get subsidized health insurance from Covered California next year should start thinking now about ways to lower it to increase their odds of getting the valuable tax subsidy.

    “If they can adjust (their income), they should,” says Karen Pollitz, a senior fellow with the Kaiser Family Foundation. “It’s not cheating, it’s allowed.”

    Under the Affordable Care Act, if your 2014 income is between 138 and 400 percent of poverty level for your household size, you can purchase health insurance on a state-run exchange (such as Covered California) and receive a federal tax subsidy to offset all or part of your premium.

    A real life example:

    For older people, getting below the 400 percent poverty limit could save many thousands of dollars per year.

    Take, for example, Jacqueline Proctor of San Francisco. She and her husband are in their early 60s. They have been paying $7,200 a year for a bare-bones Kaiser Permanente health plan with a $5,000 per person annual deductible. “Kaiser told us the plan does not comply with Obamacare and the substitute will cost more than twice as much,” about $15,000 per year, she says.

    This new plan, Kaiser’s cheapest offering for 2014, would consume about 25 percent of their after-tax income. The new plan still has a $5,000 deductible but provides coverage for things her current policy does not, such as maternity care, healthy child visits and coverage for dependents up to age 26. Proctor has no use for such coverage, since her son is 30.”
    —Politico from the SFChron.

    Yep. As predicted.


  311. Ragspierre says:

    Remember Nanny Pelosi telling us that even if ObamaDoggle costs people more, they would save money…???

    I do.

    It would be comedy gold if it weren’t outright tyranny.

  312. Jesse says:

    “You won’t find “empirical” in the rules.”

    Haha. And you pretend that this saves you.

    • Ragspierre says:

      Haha, I don’t “pretend” anything.

      And you are a moron.

      • Jesse says:

        But, Clownselor, you pretend every day to be a JD/MBA. In reality, you are a (poorly) paid RNC troll. Anyone who witnesses your flacid “arguments” can see this.

        Please make arrangements with the clerk to settle up on your Rule 11 sanctions.

  313. Jesse says:

    Interesting info about recent Tealiban hero, Larry Klayman, who led a Klan rally in DC this weekend:

    The Borg Collective are ALL just rancid people.

    • Ragspierre says:

      See, your dementia is so profound, nobody can even read that shit…

      except as an oddly hilarious cry for some professional intervention.

      • Jesse says:

        Yes, Clownselor, we KNOW you don’t know how to read a judicial opinion. We KNOW that any judicial opinion that hurts your feelings is “tyranny”. We KNOW that you HATE America. Unfortunately for you and Klayman, judicial opinions matter.

        Please make arrangements with the clerk to settle up on your Rule 11 sanctions.

        • Ragspierre says:

          See…??? This is just sad.

          You have an imaginary “clerk” now.

          I expect they will start posting now, too.


          • Jesse says:

            Misdirection. A form of lying.

            Notably, you don’t deny not knowing how to read a judicial opinion.

            No do you deny that the Borg Collective’s newest spokes-hole is a child toucher. And the Quitter and Canadian Cruz are palling around with him. If the media wasn’t in your collective’s pocket, this would be a scandal.

          • Ragspierre says:


            How can one “misdirect” from a an incoherent string of lies and delusions…???

  314. Ragspierre says:

    This is First Plunderer Day to the Zinn-history Oikophobic haters in the Collective.

    Christopher Columbus Day.

    • Jesse says:

      It’s just “Columbus Day”, Clownselor.

      What a moron.

      And you’re always in favor of a little genocide, right, Clownselor?

      • Ragspierre says:





        Great spokeshole for the Collective!

        • Jesse says:

          I see, so the holiday is NOT called “Columbus Day”.

          And Columbus did not commit genocide against the indigenous people on the land he “discovered”.

          This is a feature of the Tealiban bubble – historical illiteracy.

          • Ragspierre says:

            And THIS is a feature of your poor, moronic, hate-twisted, and history-denying effort to make an “argument”.

            Well, and the fact you don’t know your ass from a cypress stump…or a blow-up doll for your punk-meisters.

          • Ragspierre says:

            Columbus did not commit genocide against the indigenous people on the land he “discovered”.

            Only the most hateful of the hateful history revisionists would say anything to deny that statement.

  315. Ragspierre says:

    How’s that ObamaDoggle working our for real people, moron?

    Lots of anecdotal EVIDENCE coming in now.

  316. Ragspierre says:

    “I told the president exactly the same thing I have told you here today: That we need to work together and fund the government and at the same time provide substantial relief to the millions of people who are hurting because of Obamacare, who are losing their jobs, being forced into part-time work and losing their health insurance,” Cruz said, according to POLITICO. “If the outcome doesn’t impact people who are struggling, who are hurting because of Obamacare, then I don’t think it would be a good outcome.”

    Cruz told reporters he is “glad” the president is finally having discussions with the opposition — “That is an improvement,” he said — but “at the end of the day, the president still said he wouldn’t negotiate.”

    “We began talking, that was good today,” the Texan senator added. “But he continued to maintain that he will not negotiate or compromise on anything. And if that is the position, that’s not going to lead to a resolution.”

    But Barracula is not capable of negotiating. He is a sick, broken child, and a Collectivist.

  317. Ragspierre says:

    Plus, Fifth and Pacific CEO William L. McComb offers CEO solutions for the shutdown, Michael Tomasky on whether big business can break the right, Peter Beinart calls the shutdown a victory for Republicans, and Lloyd Green claims it is “impeachment on the cheap.”
    —The Beastly Day

    Every day that gangster government is on display is a victory for people…who are the majority of people in the U.S., btw…who see government as too big, too powerful, and too detached from their interests.


  318. Jesse says:

    “How can one “misdirect” from a an incoherent string of lies and delusions…???”

    Riiiiiiight. The Ohio Court of Appeals is an “incoherent string of lies and delusions”. Because you don’t agree with it. Wingnuttery 101.

    • Ragspierre says:

      No, moron. I have no opinion one way or the other about the Ohio court.

      Appellate courts very often uphold terribly WRONG trial court outcomes because of the standards of review that have evolved.

      Don’t they, you moronic liar…???

    • Ragspierre says:

      “incoherent string of lies and delusions”
      refers to your post, you illiterate moronic troll!

      Geez. What an idiot.

  319. Ragspierre says:

    Oh nos…!!!

    Not ANOTHER Collectivist candidate with a fantasist history…!!!!

    Where IS that “surprised face” when I need it…???